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U.S. Model B Visual Identification Guide

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Introducing the U.S. Model B Visual Identification Guide by Hillhouse/Garner/Cantrell

Attached is a compilation of information gained from many sources including the Coleman Collectors Forum (CCF) and various individual collectors. The purpose of this publication is to assist in identification, dating, and to further study the variations in the Coleman U.S. Model B by providing visual references to what has been documented to date.

Toby “James” Garner (Tgarner01) was the inspiration for a visual guide and contributed tremendously by providing information and many outstanding photos of the many B variations in his collection.

Larry Hillhouse’s (coleman54) past CCF posts, personal insights, and guide edits were a valuable source of information for the guide. Many other individuals contributed with photos and information.

By no means should the information in this guide be interpreted as final or resolute. Any information which contradicts the guide would be welcomed as constructive feedback, which would only serve to increase the lantern collecting community's knowledge through future guide revisions.

Hopefully, this guide will arm you with the information to apply a date to a U.S Model B or assist you in restoring one to near period correct condition.

A model B database has been started to better identify component transition periods. There is a questionnaire at the end of the guide if you would like to participate in the research.

We hope you enjoy the guide. Feel free to share it, if you find it worthy to share.

Keep’em burning,

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Nice, comprehensive compilation. I have an early 228B (key hole bail and brass directional disc) and an etched globe, but the "COLEMAN" is etched on the top of the globe instead of the bottom.

https://colemancollectorsforum.com/view ... be#p461235
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took me a minute to figure out how to download it , WOW thats gona take a minute to read over :-)
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Thanks for doing this!! Very well done. The 228 B is one of my favorites.
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Toby's knowledge was a big help to me. I was back and forth trying to lock down the date for my '34 228B.
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This is an excellent piece of work.
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smarti wrote: Mon Apr 10, 2023 10:53 pm Nice, comprehensive compilation. I have an early 228B (key hole bail and brass directional disc) and an etched globe, but the "COLEMAN" is etched on the top of the globe instead of the bottom.

https://colemancollectorsforum.com/view ... be#p461235
Very interesting. Shoot me some pics of your globe and lantern and we will see about getting it added as a variant on the first revision.
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Will do. Again, great work.

Thank you.
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A big thanks to Jeff for putting this together! I know he worked hard on this over the past year or so. Asked all the questions needed to make sure it was done right and I believe he knocked it out of the park. The B models are one of the most confusing for new collectors to understand and place in the Coleman timeline and this guide should be a big help in pointing them in the right direction.

Thanks again Jeff, and also Larry for his knowledge and input.
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Without even looking at the details, I know you guys did a great job. Downloaded, and can't wait to read this. Really, each model in the ICCC book needs a breakdown like this to clarify what is known in the collecting world, versus what fit and was substantiated in "the book". Neat that you all have the interest and inventory to study the variations/changes and substantiate the differences.

Mike Sine's work on the 237 guide is substantial and unrivaled on that model. I hope a Air-O/327 guide is taken up by someone as well.

Great work guys.
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Outstanding work. I’m in awe of the work and dedication. Brilliant gentlemen just brilliant!!!

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Wow, that is a really impressive guide. What great work you guys did. One of my next fettles is a 1936 220B.
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Just....excellent! Very well done. A big thanks to you all for putting this together.
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Thats Great! Thanks for putting that together.
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Thats Great! Thanks for putting that together.
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Nicely done! I like that it discourages the idea that Coleman was very rigid in what they put in certain models and to expect variation in parts, date patterns and finishes, etc. This should be pinned in the technical section somewhere for easy reference.
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Great job by everyone involved! Hopefully I will need this guide sooner rather than later…
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3 of 42 228B, brass fount, plated frame rest/collar, US marked base, steel pricker nut.
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Amazing job fellas! You folks left no stone unturned. Thank you for all your hard work!
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Rfieldbuilds wrote: Mon Apr 10, 2023 11:55 pm Without even looking at the details, I know you guys did a great job. Downloaded, and can't wait to read this. Really, each model in the ICCC book needs a breakdown like this to clarify what is known in the collecting world, versus what fit and was substantiated in "the book". Neat that you all have the interest and inventory to study the variations/changes and substantiate the differences.

Mike Sine's work on the 237 guide is substantial and unrivaled on that model. I hope a Air-O/327 guide is taken up by someone as well.

Great work guys.
Randy said everything I was thinking. Great work on this! We need more of these.
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Rfieldbuilds wrote: Mon Apr 10, 2023 11:55 pm Without even looking at the details, I know you guys did a great job. Downloaded, and can't wait to read this. Really, each model in the ICCC book needs a breakdown like this to clarify what is known in the collecting world, versus what fit and was substantiated in "the book". Neat that you all have the interest and inventory to study the variations/changes and substantiate the differences.

Mike Sine's work on the 237 guide is substantial and unrivaled on that model. I hope a Air-O/327 guide is taken up by someone as well.

Great work guys.
A QL 327/427 guide has been started… but it could take a little longer to assemble. Model B was the warm up, LOL
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This is simply FANTASTIC.

I would LOVE a whole library of these Guides, one for each model or model type!! (Not being ungrateful, simply saying that now you’ve whetted my appetite!)

The fact that you are doing the QL makes me really happy … one of my top Coleman series. Maybe the top. I don’t know, I like the 236/7s. Anyway, THANK YOU!!

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This is awesome and well done! Thankyou for compiling this and thankyou to the contributors,! I just acquired my first 228B which has become my new favorite lantern. This may solve the puzzle for dating it.
I haven't torn it down yet. So far it has characteristics of a 1931, but visible stamped numbers are "1" on the right and "0" on the left. Which may be Oct 31 in reverse. I will post this separately at some point after more cleanup has been done.

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Mcnairy wrote: Wed Apr 12, 2023 2:36 pm This is awesome and well done! Thankyou for compiling this and thankyou to the contributors,! I just acquired my first 228B which has become my new favorite lantern. This may solve the puzzle for dating it.
I haven't torn it down yet. So far it has characteristics of a 1931, but visible stamped numbers are "1" on the right and "0" on the left. Which may be Oct 31 in reverse. I will post this separately at some point after more cleanup has been done.

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Gary I suspect you're right in your date, but I would be curious to see the rest of the Lantern when you get to it. Happy Fettling!
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