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This neat little lamp came into my possession today, perfect for Wickie Wednesday.  It was given to me by a friend for whom I did some technology assistance at his house.  It is a caboose lamp, minus the shade.
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It is meant to be wall mounted, and the brass bracket was made by my friend as he didn't have the original bracket.  I am thinking that this is a cute little kerosene wickie.  Wrong!
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It's actually a candle holder!  And what's with the pull chain on the bottom ... it seems to be spring-loaded.
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  It is!  It is a self-feeding candle holder, not unlike church candelabras.  Very cool!

This is marked NYCRR, New York Central RR, and has a number, 51176.  No idea what the number is.  Perhaps it's the car # of the caboose it was in, or a serial number, or ...?
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This is with the bracket in place.  A quick look at Kirkman's site finds a number of shades that will fit this (approx. two inches across at the bottom), but which style is in question.  Some Googling only turned up that this is indeed a caboose fixture, but all of the ones I found look similar to this one: no shade.  My friend said it originally had a shade but it was accidentally broken many years ago.

I need to figure out a shade for this and find a new candle as the one that is in it is kind of cruddy.  When we get back to attending church I will see if the pastor will let me have a stub end or two of the church candles as I believe they're the same diameter.  It measures 1.25".

So, something a little different for Wickie Wednesday!  I'd appreciate any further input on this style of lamp as I have not come across one of these before.
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Mister Wilson
That's pretty neat.  I hope you find an appropriate shade for it.  
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That is a unique little fixture. I think the self-feed feature is cool. Also nice that your friend made a wall bracket for it. Thanks for sharing!

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outlawmws
Very cool "wickie"!    They make backpacking candle lanterns spring loaded like that!


I've not posted wickies very often but here are two oddies of mine:

A mini Aladdin lamp!  No genie no matter how hard I polish it though!  you have to be careful with this type of lap: they get VERY hot and will expand the oil and cause an oil flood...

The other is a small center feed lamp, but so small! no flame spreader, and a flat wick is "rolled" into the circular wick.

I really like these (I have a matching pair)  as they give off light all out of proportion to there size.  (Heat also!)

You can see the "ring" of the wick in the top reflection.

Interesting another way,  the burner is a french made burner and the Fount is made in England.  these are so heavy that empty they feel full!

The water bottle is for size comparison:

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That’s pretty cool!  Maybe your friend would remember what the shade looked like if you show him a few pictures of what is available.
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DougA
Thanks for the responses!  That small center draft lamp is really neat, I haven't seen any center drafts other than the Rayo types.  I can believe it puts out the heat and light, given what a Rayo can do as well as a Perfection heater, which is essentially a center draft lamp on steroids.  As for the Aladdin lamp, someone else must have let the genie out before you got it.  😉

My Google-fu started working this evening and I have found out more about this lamp.  I found a reference on one site that says that this is a RPO (Railroad Post Office) Candle Holder.  Something about the PO didn't want liquid-fueled lamps in the RPO cars, so it was candles in the pre-electric era.  Thus armed with that information I got some better results from searches, including at Kirkman's who indeed has a chimney for this lamp, and they call it a "1 15/16″ x 5 1/2″ #85 Adlake Candle Lamp Chimney":
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Kirkman's also has the prototypically correct brackets, which are more of a keyhole affair, but I am going to use the one my friend made, it is very well made.

I also went Googling for candles and I have found that plumbers' candles are the perfect size for these, being 1.25" dia. and 4" long.  Also, it appears that the church candles are the same diameter as when I searched on that diameter candle I got hits on church supplies.

I have I have some e-shopping to do!
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outlawmws
Cool that you found the correct chimney Doug!

Plumbers candles (assuming they have not changed the "formula"...)  are also slower burning as they have an additive.  (I vaguely remember "Sterite" or something like that - googled it  -"Plumbers' candles contain more stearic acid, which means they burn longer than cheap ones which contain less.")  this makes for a slower burning candle, and it won't slag it self down to nothing as easy as plain wax candles...
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DougA
Ah, thanks for that info.  Just about all the search hits I got for plumbers' candles this evening said they were made with paraffin wax, no mention of anything else, so I am assuming they're just regular candles in terms of their burn rate.  I also didn't find too many places that would sell a few of them ... there was many places that would be glad to sell me 200 ... or more!  Maybe for the first money shot I'll see how a votive candle fits, I think we have some around here and they probably wouldn't need a lot of shaving to fit in the tube.
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With a 9 hour burn time each,  I would think these are proper plumbers candles?

https://www.amazon.com/UCO-Candles-Lanterns-Emergency-Preparedness/dp/B074KSJ9KR/ref=asc_df_B074KSJ9KR/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=218094726470&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=13080617008453757612&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9032007&hvtargid=pla-356130176850&psc=1
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The self-feeding feature is common on candle burning carriage lamps. Neat Find.
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DougA
Those UCO candles do appear to a longer burning candle.  I wasn't aware of the UCO lanterns, the one single candle lantern appears to be a modern version of this lamp I have.
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DougA
A Wickie Wednesday update on my RR candle holder lamp.  I ordered a chimney from Kirkman's and it arrived Monday, rah.  Only problem is, it didn't fit!  I got out my cheap, plastic micrometer of sorts and here the chimney is undersized.  Huh?  The catalog listing says it should be 1 15/16" diameter, and the one I received was 1 11/16.  I emailed Kirkman's and had a response from Woody K. himself very quickly saying that some undersized chimneys may have sneaked through and he'd send me a correct one once they checked a few to verify the correct size.  I later had an email saying a package was enroute to me from Lanternet.com.  Here's hoping this one will be right!

No luck on a candle yet.  I was going to try a local place or two before resorting to more online stuff but haven't been to the place(s) I have in mind yet. I did get out a votive candle but those are a lot bigger around than I remembered them being and would take a lot of shaving to get one to fit this.
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Ridge Runner
That’s a pretty good variation in diameter. I’ve never purchased from Kirkman’s, but I’ve spoke with Woody and he seems like a real stand-up-guy. Nice to hear they hand-picked another one for you. Hope your replacement works out!

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Gasman64
Very nice, Doug, that's interesting, and pardon my very late reply to this thread I'd somehow missed!
I see the UCO candles have been mentioned now, and that's exactly what I thought of, as I have a few of them...very handy little lanterns.
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outlawmws
Steve,  what is the diameter of those UCO candles?  I was unable to find that key dimension.
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DougA
outlawmws wrote:
Steve,  what is the diameter of those UCO candles?  I was unable to find that key dimension.

You raise a good point, I don't see that in the Amazon listing, either.

Also, I need to correct their original use ... I guess I read that one online site too quickly the other evening.  These were for backup lighting in RPO cars.  The USPS had the regulation against liquid fueled lanterns in the RPO cars so these were used in case there was a problem with the electric lights.

This is where I found out about this lamp: https://www.jeffpolston.com/RPOlamp.htm
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Pretty cool history behind the Railway Post Offices!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Railway_post_office
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DougA
Gunhippie wrote:
Pretty cool history behind the Railway Post Offices!

Neat, thanks, Timm!  I sorta kinda knew about the RPOs but not in any kind of detail.  My mom grew up in a RR town and talks of running letters her mom wrote to family down to a particular train and handing it over to the RPO folks when the train stopped.
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Jims 220K
Doug, my dial caliper sez 30.35mm or 1.194 inches on my UCO candle. Hope this helps. Cool candle by the way.

Regards, Jim.
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DougA
Close enough to 1.25" for gov't work, I'd say!  Thanks for checking.  I guess I need to order a box of those UCO candles.
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Jims 220K
I've had my UCO candle lantern and four candles for about 25 years now. Never lit it. I think I got it as a gift in '95. Hope they fit your device.
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DougA
Looks like they should, though looking at the link provided above those candles appear to be non-UCO knock offs that folks have had problems with getting wax all over the insides of their lamps and making a mess.  I guess I need to find genuine UCO candles.
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Jims 220K
I'm guessing REI, Cabela's, etc. 
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https://www.amazon.com/UCO-Lantern-3-5-Inch-Candles-Beeswax/dp/B000F7RA10/ref=sr_1_5?crid=20NY6ER6MHR2C&dchild=1&keywords=uco+candles&qid=1593742869&sprefix=UCO%2Caps%2C189&sr=8-5
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Jims 220K wrote:
Doug, my dial caliper sez 30.35mm or 1.194 inches on my UCO candle. Hope this helps. Cool candle by the way.

Regards, Jim.

Thanks, Jim, Outlaw needed this information, and you beat me to it, as I was at work this evening.

I actually was able to find citronella candles (genuine UCO) for my little lanterns.
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Jims 220K
Yeah, I saw those on their website. The beeswax ones look cool as well. I've never used mine, couldn't tell you if they work well or not. 
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DougA
The beeswax candles look good, but at $4/candle they seem a bit pricey for what will see only occasional use.  Thanks for the link, though.  I have a decision to make about the candles.  The replacement chimney should hopefully arrive one of these days.  I am not sure which day the PO is taking for the July 4th holiday, because it could arrive today.
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I'd stick to a proper, high steric acid candle. They produce far less wax so make less of a mess. The wax pretty much all burns up.

I have a couple of the little Uco lanterns. I bought them for use in the tent when 'packing. Hang one from the center of the tent and it give a nice light, but bump it or jar it in any way and you have spill of hot, molten wax. Yours anchored to the wall would work much better.
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DougA
Thanks for that tip, Timm.  I was not eager about the beeswax candles due to their cost.  Now to find some genuine Uco candles, those ones on Amazon have some pretty bad reviews because it appears you don't always get the genuine item.  I found last night that the Uco web site is shut down for online orders due to the pandemic.
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Gasman64 wrote:

Thanks, Jim, Outlaw needed this information, and you beat me to it, as I was at work this evening.

I actually was able to find citronella candles (genuine UCO) for my little lanterns.


I was actually asking to be sure the ones, I linked to would work for Doug.  Dimensionaly it seems a good fit.  The wax used and as shipped condition is apparently suspect
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DougA
Great, many thanks, Timm.  I just ordered a 3-pack from REI.
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