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Quick Cal
Literally. We had so much rain here recently my basement has flooded twice and did a lot of damage. Lost a lot of family history. But that's not the biggie.

I'm the kinda guy that my life is full of ups and downs. Can be on easy street for awhile. Have extra play money. Buying lanterns, stoves, and all is well.

Then something happens and I go down a hell hole. It all goes to crap,,,,lol.

Being on disability I barely make enough to survive. So play money is hard to come by. But something comes along and I do all right sometimes. Sadly I'm the kind of person who can not save a dime to save my life,,,,lol.

So to the point.

I recently put timing chains on my Ford truck. Cost me over $500. And that's with me doing the work. That money was really hard to come up with. Buttoned it all up and started the truck for the first time. Thought I was going to be happy. But no. The timing chains that I fixed were so loud they were covering up a wrist pin knocking that I could not hear. I have the oil pan off to confirm.

So now this is going to cost $200-$500, depending on how much damage there is. I don't have that kind of money right now and no for sure prospects.

What I do have is lanterns and stoves and things. Oh my,,,,lol. But man. I hate to sell out. The only things I have of any value is my Gold Bond lantern and stove, and maybe some Sears stuff.  I guess I got a couple of Higgys that might bring in a buck or two. But it will kill me to sell what I call the Holy Grail,,,,lol.

My brain is fried over this. My truck has been up on jack stands for 2 weeks while I sit in the chair and think about it....lol. I've got a couple of irons in the fire but nothing has come through yet. I keep dragging my feet thinking something is coming my way.

Would you guys sell off your Gold Bond stuff or hold out for something to give. I have other stuff to sell, but like I said I'm screwed up in the head right now and can't even make a decision on what to sell. Every time I think about it I just want to scream,,,,lol. I can not complete a thought process and come up with a plan. But I blame that on the chemo brain,,,lol.

So I believe in positive energy in the universe. I have 4 situations that if just 1 happens I'll be all right. So I'm asking for some positive thoughts be pointed in my direction. Or else it's going to be awful cold riding my motorcycle this winter,,,lol.  Thanks

OK. Soap box off.

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rob_pontius
Is there an LKQ auto salvage in your area? They're a Nationwide chain. In my area, a complete engine is around $150.00. of course, you have to pull the engine yourself. I don't know how mechanically inclined you are, but that is an option. Hopefully things turn around for the better in your near future. I've been in your position many times. In the end, it always works out.
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thewoodswatchman
You might have to do the unthinkable. Life can throw some curve balls at times. We all understand this I'm sure. Patients can be your best friend at times if your able to hang on long enough for them to materialize. You might have to sell a few items that you have in the Coleman bank account or else ware as I say. Spend it on on what you "need" or on what you "want" like a different Coleman item. Sounds like, more about something you need here. We all go through this from time to time. I have little doubt you will come up with what's best for you. Gold Bonds are at the top of my list and they always have been. Just in case your interested in selling them. But that's not what my response is about either. Good luck, you'll be ok. My Dear Dad always told me that what you are going through now will quickly pass. Dont worry son. He was right.
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Quick Cal
rob_pontius wrote:
Is there an LKQ auto salvage in your area? They're a Nationwide chain. In my area, a complete engine is around $150.00. of course, you have to pull the engine yourself. I don't know how mechanically inclined you are, but that is an option. Hopefully things turn around for the better in your near future. I've been in your position many times. In the end, it always works out.


These Ford Triton motors are junk. Full of all kinds of problems. I'm not up for pulling a motor out of a junkyard vehicle just to end up with the same thing, or worse than I've got. My truck is a 03 with 150k on it. So that's not too bad. Plus I just put $500 in the timing chains. In this instance I think I need to stick with what I got.

But if I wouldn't have got this truck for free for helping a friend move coast to coast, I wouldn't spend a dime on it,,,lol.  It was one of those deals where my last care was shooting craps on me, then out of the blue my friend made contact with me asking for help. We both needed it. One of those universe provides deals I mentioned,,,lol.

Maybe if it was a Chevy,,,lol.
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Quick Cal
You might have to do the unthinkable. Life can throw some curve balls at times. We all understand this I'm sure. Patients can be your best friend at times if your able to hang on long enough for them to materialize. You might have to sell a few items that you have in the Coleman bank account as I say. Spend it on on what you "need" or on what you "want" like a different Coleman item. Sounds like, more about something you need here. We all go through this from time to time. I have little doubt you will come up with what's best for you. Gold Bonds are at the top of my list and they always have been. Just in case your interested in selling them. But that's not what my response is a out either.  


I like that "Coleman Bank".

I have a bunch of stuff that my friends don't understand why I have it. Prime example is Coleman stuff.  I say, "It's money in the bank",,,,lol.

In my mind I think if they're getting ready to shut the lights out I'll sell my Gold Bond. Hmmmm. But I can use the Gold Bond for light,,,,lol.
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74HARLEY
Are you sure it's a knock? I have personally had quite a few of those motors and well over 300k. One made it 540k. Wristpins rarely knock and if a rod bearing may require a crankshaft grinding. I wish you the best of luck, hang on to your lanterns until your other options don't pan out. But in the end you gotta do what is best for you.
Joe
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thewoodswatchman
You still have a sense of humor, that's good. Coleman is more often better than money In any bank. That's the way i see it virtually with every purchase. I set my money on a shelf if and when i want/need some? Well that's easy....
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Quick Cal
74HARLEY wrote:
Are you sure it's a knock? I have personally had quite a few of those motors and well over 300k. One made it 540k. Wristpins rarely knock and if a rod bearing may require a crankshaft grinding. I wish you the best of luck, hang on to your lanterns until your other options don't pan out. But in the end you gotta do what is best for you.


Did you watch the video? It's for sure coming from the piston end of that rod. If you want to watch my last 3 or 4 videos on my channel you can hear the noise I'm chasing.
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GeraldJP
Hang on to them colemans until you can't, in my opinion the things your passionate about go last. I'm not sure where they fall for you, but since your on this forum, I'll guess up there. Anyway that's my two cents, God bless, you'll be in my prayers.
Gerald

"If we are to have any hope for the future, those who have lanterns must pass them on to others." - Plato
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NYGfan
Your luck sounds like mine. Put struts on the wife’s Element noticed control arm bushings were worn broke ball joint taking control arm off had to disconnect cv axle to replace ball joint cv joint came apart putting it back in. Now waiting for new cv axle and hoping I don’t break carrier bearing on jack shaft while replacing or I’ll need a new one of those. Then on to the other side.  Anyway hang in there an answer will come. All things work out sometimes not like you expect. If your religious have faith it’ll get better.
Joe
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74HARLEY
Sorry I missed the video on the first round...  You need a piston replacement. Wish I could give you better news. From this point at a minimum you would have to pull a head.
Joe
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Jim Fratt
Keep your head up and stay positive my friend!
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salukispeed
Sorry to hear of these things and for you to have to go through this. .  Positive thoughts, wishes and Prayers 
Bob
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Jayhawksr
Any lantern, Gold bond or not, is just a thing.  Don't let things get in the way of your financial stability or quality of life.  We are all different people with different pain points so you need to do what right for you.   I do wish you peace and happiness. 
Richard (KC native and KU Alumni living in Maryland)
Rock Chalk, Jayhawk. Go KU!
Coleman 275 Appreciation Syndicate #1983
Mil Spec Syndicate #1983
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salukispeed
Is there any chance you might want to Sell some items with the agreement you will likely want them back when things turn around. A bit like a temporary dip into the coleman rainy day cash stash . This way they are not gone just sleeping over at another collectors house. 
Bob
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Quick Cal
salukispeed wrote:
Is there any chance you might want to Sell some items with the agreement you will likely want them back when things turn around. A bit like a temporary dip into the coleman rainy day cash stash . This way they are not gone just sleeping over at another collectors house. 


Around here we call that a pawn shop,,,,lol.
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salukispeed


Around here we call that a pawn shop,,,,lol.
So true
But so many here have other than profit and cheap in mind and can appreciate the hobby. 
 Trying to think outside the box
Bob
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salukispeed wrote:


Around here we call that a pawn shop,,,,lol.
So true
But so many here have other than profit and cheap in mind and can appreciate the hobby. 
Trying to think outside the box
My Dad and his model railroad buddies use to do that in the late fifties and early sixties.  If somebody needed cash, a brass engine was "sold" to another in the group.  When the rough patch was over the engine was bought back.  I guess they did this a lot all being younger with growing families.  Of course, the group was all local and made up of close friends.
Richard (KC native and KU Alumni living in Maryland)
Rock Chalk, Jayhawk. Go KU!
Coleman 275 Appreciation Syndicate #1983
Mil Spec Syndicate #1983
Eagle Scout Class of '83
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Dmacp
have you pulled the piston yet? The engine looks clean. that shouldn't have happened. Find out why, and replace the piston. Looks like you are half way there.

I'm replacing a crank right now so you've got my sympathy 
Dan
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Quick Cal
Dmacp wrote:
have you pulled the piston yet? The engine looks clean. that shouldn't have happened. Find out why, and replace the piston. Looks like you are half way there.

I'm replacing a crank right now so you've got my sympathy 


Oh I believe I know the why. The plastic timing chain guides broke into 100's of pieces and some clogged up the screen in the oil pick up.

The guys on the F150 forum says oil starvation will kill a wrist pin. I just hope the damage is limited to the one area. But I won't know until I tear it apart. But I really don't want to tear it apart until I have the money to fix it.

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New timing chains I just put on. Imagine my disappointment first time I started then engine. I was expecting it to pure like a kitten. I got more of a roaring like a lion,,,,lol.
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salukispeed
If the chains are allowed to slap for a long enough time the Nylon slippers will break apart and end up in bad places like the pump pick up. But 150,000 seems premature for chain  slap too.  I have wondered for years about today's oil temps. The new synthetic oils are wonderful and can hold up and protect the metal parts at excessive temps but prematurely age and harden plastic and rubber . So did the nylon slipper's fail from getting brittle and lose control of the chain or chains/sprockets/tensoner wear first  and beat them to a pulp. The engine is obviously clean and had its proper oil changes.  As an experiment I put a scan gage 2 monitor in my 2018 Subaru Crosstrek and find the oil temps are between 205 and 215  under most all conditions but when pulling a small 13 foot scamp camper trailer I have seen 245 on a 93 deg day at 70mph and yet the coolant temps never get above 212. By slowing to 60 MPH the temps drop to 225. I suspect some high stress areas are even much higher than my readings and may damage plastic over time.  ( Sorry I got a little long winded ) Just thoughts
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scl
there should be no plastic in an engine, my opinion anyway. hope all goes well for you. i got a car from a friend and it has a knock which i think is a rod bearing so i got the bearing set and was ready to put them in, but it is a 98 buick regal and has an oil pan interference issue in which i have to lift the engine to remove the oil pan. hoping for the crank bearing issue and not the wrist pin one. this ran low on oil because of the oil pressure sensor failing.
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mikew
Feel some of your pain about the Ford engines during that time period.  Have a 2006 with the 5.4 Triton 3V engine that was running bad.  Has 150K miles. Had a bad miss going up a slow hill that acted like a tranny problem.  Would also back fire thru the intake when using passing gear resulting in a blinking check engine light.  Online searching pointed out the problem to be the junk spark plugs Ford used at the time that have a tendency to break in two when removing.  Talked to a Coleman collector named Gary at the Corsicana, TX, gathering this past spring.  Gary happens to be a Ford mechanic and told me the procedure to use removing the plugs.  Borrowed a Lisle extraction tool from a friend and got brave enough to try it myself.  Had to remove the PCM and bracket to access the #4 plug.  Only broke one plug during the process.  Replaced all the plugs with Motorcraft 546 plugs and new Motorcraft coils.  Ran great for about two days when I started getting a "wrench" light.  Ran bad with a trouble code pointing to the throttle body area.  Online seaching showed my truck still had a first generation throttle position sensor.  Replaced this with latest 3rd generation.  Truck ran great but every few days kept giving me a trouble code for the bank 2 (driver's side) catalytic converter.  Replaced both converters at a local muffler shop.  The driver's side converter was toast, probably because I ran it so long with the bad plugs allowing unburned fuel into the bank 2 converter.   Now the truck runs perfectly with no issues at all.   This whole ordeal cost me about $1300 since I did a lot of the work myself.  Hate to imagine what a dealer would have charged.  

Those plastic chain tensioners are operated by oil pressure moving a piston.  If a piston sticks, the tensioner will not move allowing the timing chain to slap around.   This YouTube mechanic, FordTechmakuloco, goes into much detail about these mid 2000s Ford engines and their issues and was helpful to me diagnosing issues with mine.
Mike
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