200A and 202 reproduction
frames back
in stock.

Phredd
So in a recent post another member mentioned using a pricker rod from a 220 in a 220A generator.  I tried this recently and could not get the 220 pricker wire to go through the 200A tip. Which makes some sense because the 200A tip orifice is .007" and the 220 is .008" (see table below - data was extracted from Matt Reids GREAT table).

So what if you put the V gas tip on the 200A generator. The pricker should work.  BUT, would the extra 0.001" orifice over-drive the mantle on the 200A?


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Phredd
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mgmlvks
Cross section area from 0.007 to 0.008 increases by 30%
Best answer is "try and see"

diameterradiusradius E2piarea sq inchesincrease
0.007   0.0035000   0.0000123    3.1415927                           0.0000385 
0.008   0.0040000   0.0000160    3.1415927                           0.000050331%
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Chucker
It is enough of a difference to make CF and kero run at an optimum output. Kero would need less fuel and more air to give us roughly the same candle power from the same gas (CF) lantern. 
Chuck
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Phredd
Chuck

Are you saying that the 200A with a 220 V orifice could run kero?  That would be a gas (ha! pun intended).

I think i will try it with CF first.

Phredd

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philbotha
Phredd wrote:
Chuck

Are you saying that the 200A with a 220 V orifice could run kero?  That would be a gas (ha! pun intended).

I think i will try it with CF first.

Phredd


No, just the opposite: A 220 will run on kero with a 200A gas tip.
-Phil

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salukispeed
With tips from the folks here I have a 220E running on a "6" tip from a 200A  on Kero. and it works well. Mine is not a retina burner but lights the yard pretty good. I also ordered a 201 preheat cup from OCP that I am going to try as soon as it gets here. But with a good preheat from a small butane torch it lights nicely. 
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salukispeed
With this talk of small diameter holes is there a tapered pin or stepped pin available to accurately measure these. ( By Eye does not work ) and As I get older it does not work even more!!
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Chucker
philbotha wrote:


No, just the opposite: A 220 will run on kero with a 200A gas tip.


Thank you for catching that Phil. Have a good new year. 
Chuck
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Chucker
salukispeed wrote:
With this talk of small diameter holes is there a tapered pin or stepped pin available to accurately measure these. ( By Eye does not work ) and As I get older it does not work even more!!


Bob,
I've found small diameter measuring tools at a welding shop as 'gas re-sizing" kits or something for NG and LPG orifices. As I recall they didn't go below .0008 the last time I looked so I passed. I suppose a search on the internet for them might find a good kit like from Anderson & Forrester? 
Chuck
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Watch-makers also use ultra-fine tapered needles and reamers in their trade, available as sets.
-Phil

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rob_pontius
It's a lot of difference in the application. An easy way to think about it, order a 16" pizza. Order an 18" pizza. Set them side by side and see how much more pizza is really on the 18" compared to the 16". It's the same principle, just a lot smaller. And when you consider that the needle is usually only .001 smaller than the orifice, it's plenty to make a difference.
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