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hikerduane
I can't find any info for this old chainsaw, Titan brand.  Trying to see why the recoil doesn't recoil and why the sprocket won't move either.  The clasp that holds the motor and tranny? won't let the two parts separate, not sure what else to do.  Features are like some other Titan models, but oil tank and fuel tank caps are located different.  Registered on a saw forum, but still can't post there.
Duane
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     Well uh. I’d say...    Heck I’ve never been allowed to use a chainsaw, which is odd as I can mow the lawn on a rider. 🤔 Anyway, hopefully somebody can help.
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74HARLEY
That looks like fun Duane!
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hikerduane
No GPA's to fettle so finally thought I would tackle this.  Have had it for 20+ years, my late dad found it in Nevada when he was working for the state road department back in the mid 70's.   Recoil came off easily, but don't know if a spring is missing or what.  Got the clasp piece off, but can't separate the power head from the tranny? part.  Did get the sprocket to turn with lots of force using channel locks.  I found a kill switch, was wondering how to kill it.  If I could get the recoil to retract, would be neat to see if I have spark.  Carb was pretty clean.
Duane
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Danb1955
Probably a flat coiled spring in recoil housing.  May have the hook on the end broken if it won't recoil, if it does heat it and bend a new one.  I may have a few parts if you need something.  I have a complete and running blue one and a red and yellow one when I stored them prior to the Coleman collecting days.  The person who gave me the blue one said his dad would put it on the top of his shop wood stove in the winter to warm it before starting in the winters in western New York near Chautauqua.  It will have aircraft cable rather than a rope in the recoil.
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Whitegas Extraordinaire
I’m intrigued by the hose. Is that the fuel line? If you know the length and pipe thread size I can crimp one up and send it to you!
Thank you!
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hikerduane
The bits in the handle for the recoil are held in place with a "keeper" as my dad would call it, can't tell what sort of setup is further in.  Thanks for the offers, will see what my local saw shop can help me with.  Can't separate the power head from the rest.  Trying to even see if worth fixing before proceeding too far.  Got the sprocket to rotate last night.  Rusty?  Gummed up?  Broken?  Can't get the side cover to break loose on that tranny hunk.
Duane
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outlawmws
I assume you pulled the plug?  If so get some Marvel Mystery Oil in there to soak.  I'm not families with this particular saw, but have done many many small engines over the years...

I'm also assuming this is a two stroke?  I can't recall seeing a 4 stroke Chain saw, ever, but there is always the first...

As Dan mentioned, the flat spring probably snapped the end off  - usually a bent hook or a hole or narrow neck ground in.  - do yo see the bitter end of the spring on the outside of the spring housing, or a slot or hole for it?  Anything in that hole?
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hikerduane
I had the old style plug out.  Only saw a couple small holes in a plate in the recoil starter.  Will look further.  Thinking from what I read, the tranny for these that the factory replaces, sounds like it only can be removed by them.  The tranny rotates 90 degrees to fell trees.  Don't know how to knock the cover on the side of the tranny off.  Seems there is a worn pin with some sort of clip on it.  Looks to be a model 200/Junior.
Duane
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Bob1774
Two saws I had to rebuild had the broken spring as mentioned above, and fixed as suggested, with heat and a new bend, quenching for hardness.
Found this on ebay if interested.
 https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/TITAN-JUNIOR-MODEL-200-CHAINSAW-MASTER-INSTRUCTIONS-AND-PARTS-MANUAL-MAN-181A-/232582188551
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BSAGuy
Wow.  That's a beast saw, Duane.  Good luck in getting it up and running.
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hikerduane
Thank you Bob, bought it.
Duane
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zoomkat
There are a couple of small engine repair guys on youtube that you might PM and see if they have any advice on this particular saw. They have a lot of videos on repairing a lot of different makes if you are generally not familiar with repairing small engines. Steve's Small Engine Saloon is one and there are others. 
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hikerduane
Thank you.  I posted on a couple saw forums.
The fuel hose has tapered ends.  Will see if NAPA in town can make a line.  Some compression when turning by hand.  I don't have the tool to take the clip off that holds the recoil starter parts on.  May need the saw shop to work on that.
I do my own repairs, just not surgery like rering or pistons.
Duane
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hikerduane
Got the tranny/gear box side cover off, bearing there didn't want to rotate far, but finally got it to move.  Gripped the sprocket on the other side so I could loosen the nut in front of the bearing.  Will see if the saw shop in town can replace the bearings for me.  Pretty gummy junk in there.  
Upside down pic.
Duane
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hikerduane
Got a spark last night after setting the contact gap, but today I think I am dead in the water, the recoil spring won't stay in place and I seem only able to wind it up enough to pull the cable about 10".  Back it goes to the garage floor. Back to fixing GPA's. 
Duane
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Bob1774
Sometimes when I get frustrated with a project, I let it set for awhile, and when I come back to it, the obstacles seem more clearly defined and I have a fresh look at it.  Perhaps with your recoil, that will happen.  Those things are temperamental and you have to have the tension just right to pull to start, then retract the cable.  Anyway you can figure out how to just do a wrap around pull start, like the old lawn mowers that had a rope with a knot in the end?  If you get it running, you could problem solve the recoil later. 
Bob
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zoomkat
YouTube has various videos on rewinding recoil springs.
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hikerduane
The spring on this doesn't wind very much.  I've done a few for B&S motors.
Duane 
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outlawmws
Duane, is the spring housing maybe loaded up with sawdust?  That could limit how much windup it has.
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hikerduane
Nooooo.
Duane
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seavandal
I have my Dad's old 70's Homelite that he used for decades to cut and split all the firewood for our cabin. It died a long time ago, and sat in the depths of the cabin garage for even more decades. I found it about a year ago, and decided to restore it. After getting into the guts of the saw, I found that it was a lost cause. Name the part, and it was toast.  I hung it on the wall in the garage in original beat up condition... but cleaned up. Great wall art with a memorable history. Dad passed away five years ago but the saw reminds me of him every time I'm in that garage working on something.
You may not know the history of your saw but it is certainly one of the coolest saws I've ever seen! Killer wall or floor of the garage art Duane! I hope you get it going. Maybe an inquiry into a vintage chainsaw group might get a response from someone with the same saw. Buena suerte!
 Chris
Chris
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seavandal

 

This might be a lead as to what your saw is. Titan 200 jr.?
http://www.chainsawcollectors.se/phpbb3/viewtopic.php?t=1375

Chris
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seavandal
Specs:
http://www.acresinternet.com/cscc.nsf/ed1d619968136da688256af40002b8f7/1db202eeb978068d88256b47000d7469?OpenDocument
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BSAGuy
Bob1774 wrote:
Sometimes when I get frustrated with a project, I let it set for awhile, and when I come back to it, the obstacles seem more clearly defined and I have a fresh look at it............


I have had that same experience many times, Bob.  I think that your subconscious mind works on problems like this when you put them aside and when you return, you will almost magically have a solution.
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hikerduane
Thank you guys for the thoughts.  I've accessed already all you have shown.  I did order a manual, that may be the most help to show more.  Out in the garage the other might after the late news, flipped and played with the recoil spring, doesn't stay in place.  No go.  Can't believe it is sprung to where it won't stay in place.
Duane
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Bob1774
Duane,
Just occurred to me that maybe the spring you found in the recoil, isn't the correct one, and maybe an earlier attempt to replace it with something not original?  Eliminating possibilities.  
Bob
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hikerduane
Bob, I was thinking along that line the other night, as well as maybe positioned wrong, so being patient and see if the manual shows up to see if it has a good image or illustration.  Manual has been doing the Sacramento Postal Service dance in Washington.
Duane 
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Bob1774
I went back and looked at the recoil photo disassembly, and thought if you wanted to fire it up while waiting to figure out the recoil, you could wrap a 1" nylon strap around the outer wheel a few times, and give a good yank!  Obviously, the recoil was for easy repetitive attempts to start, but at least you could start tinkering with the carb adjustments if it fired up!
Bob
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zoomkat
Without pictures or diagrams of the recoil mechanism, it is hard to picture the issue. Below is a recoil spring video that shows how to add tension to a recoil assembly without disassembling the assembly and letting the spring to spring into a bird's nest. 

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hikerduane
Never thought of a strap, a cord on the shaft wedges in there.  
I'v done a few B&S recoils before, this one may just have the wrong spring, the power equipment recoils are easy, this has a cable.  A cord I think could be substituted when the cable wears out.
Duane
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