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Banjoman
Up until now I’ve only needed one size of packing for most of my fettlin projects. But this 242b lantern won’t accept the packings that I have on hand. So do 242’s take a smaller diameter packing? And are there diff lengths of packings as well.
Darrell
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Frank6160
the 242 is smaller, not sure about lengths.
Frank
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bdickson
I am not an expert for sure however could the packing you have (if too long) be cut?  And if too short perhaps adding a little graphite packing sold for plumbing help to lengthen it?  I had a 500B stove (Cdn) that was leaking thru the fuel knob nut. This is a very small nut and packing, and only have larger ones on hand.  A short length of  the plumbing packing was split (it is a twisted product made up of several small strings) and added.  So far problem solved.
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Gand28
Should be the same diameter but you might need to shave some off on the length. There is a smaller diameter packing for the old 327/427 valve shafts.
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Asbestos
The packing that OCP sells are graphite and could be taken down in length. Plumbing packing should If it is an odd size that an OEM style won't fit. Heat might be an issue, they tend to get hot. Back in the day  graphite asbestos packings were used on steam lines and so forth. Not quite sure why Coleman went for the solid packing. maybe it was easier to assemble?
 
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Cottage_hill_bill
An X-acto razor saw works well to shorten cylindrical packings.
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SteveRetherford
i like to just use a hand file , i have cracked a couple trying to cut em with a razor blade , the hand file works good for me .
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Gand28
SteveRetherford wrote:
i like to just use a hand file , i have cracked a couple trying to cut em with a razor blade , the hand file works good for me .


Or a Dremel with cut off wheel and slide them on a rod first.
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Rubing
Darrell if the valve packings that you have on hand are for 200/22X/23X lanterns then yes they will not fit a 242/243 lantern. The 200/22x/23X packing is on the left and the 242/243 size is on the right. Click image for larger version - Name: IMG_1192.jpg, Views: 159, Size: 82.83 KB Click image for larger version - Name: IMG_1193.jpg, Views: 161, Size: 68.25 KB
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SteveRetherford
uh , dont think so Greg :-) . 200 242 220 on the left , on the right you have a quick lite and 249 packing . a 242 and 220 both use the same diameter shaft , its the quick lite and the 249 that use the skinny diameter shaft .
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Rubing
I apologize you are correct. Thanks
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GrayClay
OCP does sell both the large I.D. (0.25") and small (0.19") valve packing. I have not found them anywhere else, not even Coleman.

Strange but I have a 425E stove dated 9/77 that takes the small valve packing! It's in excellent condition and does not appear to be hobbled together with spare parts. 
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Cigar_Mike

Perhaps I can shed some light.  There are 4 different sizes of packing.  They are as follows:


216-6201   This is the small packing used on the Quicklites, 249, and 425E and earlier 425 stoves.

275-6201   Only used on the 275 lantern.

118B6201   The standard large packing that fits most everything else.

242-6201    This is the same size as the 118B6201 but is a little longer.  Coleman used to recommend this size for the 200A and 242.  I think at some point they realized that the extra length was not needed so they rolled everything into the 118B6201 part number.  I believe the initial extra length on the 242-6201 was because the 200A did not have the extra brass bushing like the 220 models have.

Hope this helps.

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SteveRetherford
glad your feeling good enough to chime in Mike , you summed it up perfectly :-)
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Banjoman
Thx u guys but I’m thinking now the wrong vavle was in this 242b. The pics show what I’m talking about. The parts on the $ shot are what came with this valve
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Newfie
What year is the lantern?
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Gand28
Thats an early Canadian valve wheel in your hand.
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Banjoman
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GCinSC
Cigar_Mike wrote:

Perhaps I can shed some light.  There are 4 different sizes of packing.  They are as follows:


216-6201   This is the small packing used on the Quicklites, 249, and 425E and earlier 425 stoves.

Hope this helps.



Folks does anyone have the 216-6201 and carefully measure OD X ID X Length please?

426D is on the bench, valve stem leaking and the packing is all crumbs. Valve shaft diameter is .250" valve body is .300" inside diameter.
Yes, I've read a bunch of posts but having actual packing dimensions would be helpful.
New 118B6201 .255" ID X .387" OD X .321 L. OD is too large.

Thanks,

Gary

 
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Chucker
Don't have that info Gary but in a pinch (or permanently) you can wrap the shaft with graphite tape. Cigar Mike sells it. I use it. 

I certainly understand if you want original size. 
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Chuck

Hold the phone. I’m working on it right now. 

It appears that this valve builds differently than lanterns. 

More later. 

Thanks. 

Gary

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Chucker
Understood. 
Chuck
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GCinSC
Folks, this one confused me pretty good. This is based on only one stove packing replacement.

426D leaking valve stem packing. Ordered 118B6201 per parts list. At installation over a week after teardown and cleaning out of old packing I started assy thinking it was similar to lantern valve packing which slides inside the valve body, WRONG. The 118B6201 is too big to go INTO the valve body like I ASSUMED from lantern style 220 valve packing R&R.

This 426D packing is outside of the valve body and under the nut, not INSIDE the valve like a lantern.

I used a lantern valve body to try to illustrate the valve vs stove packing layout. After cleaning out the old packing from under the nut and threads it was a matter of installing stem back into valve, sliding packing onto stem (it's outside valve body) and threading nut on and snugging it up.

The packing nut on this 426D uses a 1/2" wrench across flats, a 425C with the I believe "small" packing uses a 7/16" wrench across the flats. 

I've now used this stove several times prior to this post, no drips and running just like it should. The coffee pot is the bottom half of a Kitchen Kraft drip-o-lator style pot. 

Open to comments please if this interpretation is incorrect. 

Gary

426D Mock up.jpg 

Lantern.jpg 

New valve packing.jpg   
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austin65uri
Good analysis/explanation.  Nice pics and coffee pot!
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