200A and 202 reproduction
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Sierra Roadrunner
It was like opening a treasure chest from the past loaded with Coleman Bounty.
I just got done going through a box that belonged to my Dad. He acquired it sometime ago and I found it in a dark corner of his barn covered with dust and cobwebs. The box is painted red with white Forest Service emblem stencils on front and back with "4 Coleman Lanterns" stenciled in white on the top. 
Shucks, the lanterns weren't in there but I did find a few old R55 generators, an as new Coleman Quicklite collar, a Silk-Lite Mantle box (without the mantles) and 4 like new Mica Globes.
The globes are approximately 4-7/8" diameter by 5-1/2" high, have the sliding door for lighting, 7 mica panels and 3 holes for attaching rivets or screws to the outside splines.  They are wrapped in brown shipping paper and outside of a few minor scratches from being moved around over the years they look like new with no rust.
So that brings up a few questions; can any of you more knowledgeable Coleman sage's tell me what era some of these items are from as to the age of the generators, silk-lite box and mica globes and what lanterns they were or are used on? Appreciate any help you can provide. Oh, 220's fit in the box just fine but it's to narrow for the Big Hat Lanterns.
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   Joe
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Nice nice!
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74HARLEY
Wow! That's a cool find!
Joe
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Gunhippie
I don't post this much anymore, as there have been so many amazing finds posted here, but this definitely qualifies you for a YOU SUCK!

Great find. The collar and globes would likely be for the USFS lanterns, red-painted L427s with the first built-in pumps and USFS in bas relief. Great find! You're looking at the late '30s - early '40s for a date.
It's priceless until someone puts a price on it.
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warren
Wow!  That is amazing.  my 4 USFS lanterns sure could use that box and mica. 🙂

Now you'll be on the hunt to fill it up.   Does any of the mica have any marking on them?

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rob_pontius
That's a really cool find. That box looks to in excellent shape for being stuffed in the corner of a barn for who knows how long. 
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VWguy
Wow, the box would be cool on it's own. The rest is a bonus. 

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Dmacp
I have a box of chimneys marked "220" and they take 3 rivets. But they do not have the extended metal top band as seen on the 327 chimney, which is what Fred sells, and which take 2 rivets. But I can't tell if those are single or one inside the other. If there are two together, and the top band is thinner, they might be #220. they were 7 panel chimneys.

That's an incredible find you have there.
Dan
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Dmacp
there is an article in a recent "Coleman light" that addresses the mantle date issue. Sorry I don't have the issue handy.
Dan
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gpaguy
Amazing barn find.  I have not seen a FS. box that held 4 lanterns before. But over the years I have seen a handful of FS. boxes that held 1 embossed FS. lantern, 2 one quart full cans and also had room for spare generators and a funnel. I have one of those here. A few of these boxes including the one here have surfaced in the state of Arizona so they may have originated there.


John
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steve p
Wow, that's a really great find!  Can you show the inside of the box?  Those mica chimneys are in amazing condition.
Steve

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rob_pontius
That's cool Dan. That would make yours the early ones for the 3-tab air-o-lantern. 
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Jim Fratt
Great find and very cool story👍
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Sierra Roadrunner
Thanks all for the replies and shedding more light on the details I really appreciate the info. There are no markings on the mica or on the metal splines. And the mica looks to be single thickness. These fit real well in my 220's and 228.  I've seen some pictures of Fred's chimneys, with the two rivets, and when I found these in the box, having three rivets holes, it got me to wondering how old these chimneys are and who made them for the Forest Service. Is it possible they were made by Coleman or perhaps the Forest Service contracted with some outfit to manufacture them? It's amazing how far back the quick lite collar and these items go.
The box has been sitting in the barn since the mid 80's or early 90's and has some scratches, gouges, chipped paint etc but is in overall good shape. They made things to last for generations back then.   

   Joe
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Gunhippie
Does your Quikie collar have gobs and runs of tin on it? The original 427 USFS lanterns had collars that were hot-dipped in tin, leaving runs and drips of tin.
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Walk a mile in a man's shoes before you criticize him--then you're a mile away, and he has no shoes.
Texan's last words: "Y'all--hold my beer--I wanta' try sumptin'."
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Sierra Roadrunner
No runs or gobs on the collar at all Gunhippie. Just a dull grey color all the way around and all the holes are open and clear. I don't know much about the Quicky's. Is it possible this came from a 327?
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 Joe

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Chucker
Great find! 
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Sierra Roadrunner
Wow, that's a really great find!  Can you show the inside of the box?  Those mica chimneys are in amazing condition.
 
Steve 
 Here you go Steve Coleman E.jpg  Coleman F.jpg  Coleman G.jpg 
If you want the measurements please let me know.
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rob_pontius
I can't tell for sure from the pictures, but it looks like the main box is made of plywood. If so, the box is much newer than the contents.
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Bill
Great haul!
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Dmacp
Joe's mica chimneys appear to match the "220" chimneys Coleman used to make. They came after the 327. They are 7 panel chimneys with 3 rivet holes.
I called Fred and asked him about them. He is not aware of any but told me he maybe just hasn't seen them yet.
Mine appear to be tin plated steel. After getting new information from Joe I will equip my USFS lantern with one.
These pictures have been posted before-sorry for the re-runs.
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Dan
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gpaguy
rob_pontius wrote:
I can't tell for sure from the pictures, but it looks like the main box is made of plywood. If so, the box is much newer than the contents.


Plywood has been around for a long time. The single lantern FS cases are made from 1/4" plywood also, with 1x reinforcemen's and held together with Brad nails so this 4 lantern box could very well date back to 30's or 40's.


John
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coleman54

The no. 220 mica was first introduced in 1928 as standard equipment installed on the new model 220/228 slant generator lantern. It was considered to be an upgrade from the no. 327 and they were both marketed in tandem for a few years before the no. 220 mica ceased and the no. 327 mica continued for several more years. At the time of introduction the no. 220 was about .25 cents more expensive than the no. 327 which in today’s money is $3.74. 

The full page original new Instant-Lite model no. 220/228 introduction Coleman advert illustrated in the Collectors Guide on page 111 states six piece mica , yet on page 112 the guide mistakenly describes 327 mica. 

Joe, could we please see a clear single image of the directions pamphlet? 

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Larry

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rob_pontius
I'm sorry guys, I was thinking osb, not plywood. Plywood has been around longer than Coleman has.
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The full page original new Instant-Lite model no. 220/228 introduction Coleman advert illustrated in the Collectors Guide on page 111 states six piece mica , yet on page 112 the guide mistakenly describes 327 mica. 


Thanks Larry. I was also counting the little piece above the door. that makes 7, or maybe 6-1/2 to be more precise
There were  set of six or eight almost brand new L228 slants unearthed in the basement of a high school in Ohio. They all had flanges soldered on the bottom so they could be screwed on to a fence post. Mine is dated 8-10. Warren, Michael OR, and Ronnie Hardison also have them.
These lanterns have the 6-1/2 panel chimneys. They have a galvanized door, with two very small opening tabs and two 1/8" rivets. The chimneys I have are held by 3 rivets like an AGM chimney. I used notebook rivets on mine as a 1/8" rivet will pull through. These chimneys have a plated (tin I think) door with ornate crescent shaped openings. I'll take pictures if you'd like. I can even send you one to examine if you'll return it  to me.

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Dan
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coleman54

Thanks Dan, I was fortunate to see an example of these lanterns you mention from the basement on the forum in the years past.

I have advertising showing both mica globes sometimes counting the 1/2 door panel on no. 327 as 13 piece, and others do not count the 1/2 door panel as 12. 

There is also advertising of a mica with brass frame no. 427.  8AA4FDE9-76B2-4ED7-8FB1-32FFC9685CC6.jpeg 

Larry

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Sierra Roadrunner
Larry,  I wish my mica came with an instruction sheet. The chimneys were each wrapped in plain brown shipping paper then rolled together.

Rob and John, The Lantern box is indeed made of plywood and 1x.  1/4" ply front and back with 1/2" ply on the sides, top lid and bottom.. Then 1x" front, back and both sides for reinforcement.

Outside dimensions are: 9-1/2" wide x 16" high x 29-1/2 Long. There is an additional sheet metal band, center punched about every 1/2 inch on the edge's and nails approximately 1" apart in the center of the band positioned over the 1xs. The band goes all the way around the box front, back including down both sides. Here are a couple of close ups showing the detail.

Top left corner looking down into the box 
Coleman 1a.jpg    And top front center of the boxColeman 1b.jpg

You all have really shed some light on this along with some great history too. It's very much appreciated.
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coleman54
Joe , I’m referring to the paperwork you show in the original post, they will probably help indicate a year timeframe you first requested. 
Larry

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Nighthawk
Very nice find!
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Sierra Roadrunner
 

Larry asked;   "Joe, could we please see a clear single image of the directions pamphlet?" 

I hope these will do. Larry, you have been a lot of help as well as Dan (Dmacp) in identifying and dating these No. 220 Mica's. My hat's off to Gun Hippie and John too as well as everyone who posted their Coleman knowledge. I hope you all will correct me if I'm wrong about dating these items. Judging by the items in the box, from the Quicklite Collar to the 200A directions pamphlet, I'm guessing they date from the 1920's or 30's into the early 1980's.
Oh and I'd like to give a shout out to Justin (Jbbh93) for his post in the archives "Timeline of USA/Canada Silk Lite and Cotton Mantle Production" update 7/15/2019. There is a wealth of info there. Thanks to all of you and this great forum.
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coleman54
Thanks Joe !
Larry

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Coleman Slant Saver #01  Coleman Quick Lite Crew #01 Sears Collectors Club #16
Goldbond Collector #02  BernzOmatic Appreciation Club #003    Part Time Stovie
Perfection Collectors #3   ICCC #1412

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