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Neils_betuwe

Hello,

In this topic I will describe the restoring of a 1962 200A I bought on Ebay. More updates will follow as the process continues..


I thought I got a real beautiful lantern when I bought this on Ebay and paid, well let's say... too much (shiny cherry red makes me greedy)



It looks great in the auction picture, but when I received the lantern it turned out that the seller was hiding some awful paint damage...



Upon further examination I discovered that this lantern was overheated once, it probably burned with a broken mantle. It caused an area of paint to come off, turned the pyrex logo on the globe black and melted the edge of the fuel valve wheel. 




The rest of the lantern is in excellent condition, no rust or dents and a mint dark red vent. So after some inspiration from this forum I decided to restore this lantern to it's original glory.

After the disassembly I stripped the paint from the fount. I don't have any chemicals for that so I decided to try it by simply soaking it in hot, soapy vinigar over a low fire.




Now that was easy! the paint could be peeled of just like a plastic film. And it cleaned the inside of the fount at the same time.

The next step is repainting. That will be done in a professional paintshop. I will keep you updated.


Neils 
  

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bucknailer63

wow! that came out clean I can't imagine the paint coming off any cleaner.

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Nevada_Ed
I am looking forward to seeing the progress Neils, put in the work on the frame too. These ones we totally refurbish become quite dear to us when done.

Ed

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vwbusman
Wow Neils, that's amazing for just hot soapy vinegar, I am going to have to try that
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dkehoe
I found out about soaking in hot soapy water the hard way...
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suprz
more info please about hot soapy vinegar!!  do you boil the fount in it? heat it up and let it soak??  
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Neils_betuwe

I will post the procedure in "technical assistence"

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jun
Very Interesting!!!!!!!!!
Hot, Soapy Vinegar and how long did it take? Any measurement of soap, vinegar and agua?

Looking forward to "Technical Spec / Procedure

That's an awesome clean up of the fount BTW
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dirtyone

i would coat that with oil, it will start oxidizing immediately. if you wait a day or two it will need to be sanded and cleaned again.  you could spray it with a good epoxy primer but you cant go wallyworld pick up a can. like we tell customers that bring in something like this and have sprayed something on it. if the paint can rattles when you shake it, it is not any count.  i would suggest asking for a single stage polyurethane paint like sikkens autocoat lv or ppg delfleet. very chemical resistant and tough as nails (read hard to buff and $$). base coat clear coat paint isn't as durable. but is easy to buff

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Neils_betuwe
It actually has not been sanded at all
I only rubbed it with some slight abbrasive kitchen cleaner.

I agreed to deliver the fount bare metal to the painter, sandblasting or sanding or not... that's up to him.
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adelcoro
Should come out real nice!!
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jun

Can't wait to see it Neils

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61RANCHERO

Hurry.... Want to see shiny red!!!!

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Neils_betuwe
Ok, the painting has been done.

The man from the paintshop usually paints cars, and he could have given it a gloss high enough to use the fount as a mirror.

But I think that would be unrealistic for a Coleman lantern so I asked him to do something in the middle between high gloss and satin. I also lend him my mint 502 as a reference for the look and feel of the paint finish.

He painted it with a custom mixed cherry juice and even gave me a little bottle with that paint and a label that says "olielamp" (oil lamp)



In the picture it looks like bright red but it's actually cherry red and it matches the color of the vent quit good. Because I didn't have to sand the fount the embossed text and logo are still very sharp. (sadly the picture is not)

Next step, cleaning all the little parts
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adelcoro
VERY NICE PAINT JOB
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jun
That's an awesome paint job!!!!!
can't wait to see it assembled
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milton_costarica
Hail the 200A's!!!!!
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lamplighter
Out of curiosity, how much did he charge for that paint job? Looks very nice indeed!
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fourpz

Don't ask how I know this, but be careful when you install the pump cap, sometime if the paint is to thick it can chip or scratch when installing the cap.

Paint looks awesome

 

Brad
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Neils_betuwe

Cleanin, cleaning, cleaning....

The frame was a lot easier than I thought it would be. I soaked it in hot vinegar, cleaned it with a pink soap steel wool pad and finished with a mild metal polish. This will need no repainting.

The collar aluminum is very soft, cleaning it with a small brush made it very dull from scratches. I had to polish it over and over with the mild metal polish and my fingers to get it shiny again.



@lamplighter, the paint job cost me 35 euros.

@fourpz, I will be careful with that, if needed I will sand the top end of the pump tube a bit.

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fuzz1500
Looks  very good !!!!!!!!!              
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adelcoro
Nice burner cage.What a great job!!
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vwbusman
Beautiful job Niels, your water slide decal is on the way buddy.
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Brent

Very nice progess! Fourpz is right about thick paint on the end of the pump tube housing, it can make installing the pump cap very difficult, it it is too tight, do some very careful sanding on the last 1/8" or so of the tibe to alow the pump cup to fit. Brent

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swimmy83843
That is just beautiful.
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Neils_betuwe
Don't you love this part of the process? A build your own Coleman lantern scale 1:1 kit.

The parts are clean and ready for assembly.

You probably noticed 3 parts are missing. the pump leather is soaking in oil and the replacement valve wheel and disk are on their way somewhere between the USA and the Netherlands. 


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fourpz

Neils, it looks like the machine screw for the fuel cap is painted on to the fuel cap.

Brad
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Neils_betuwe
Yes, it looks like it, but it's not.

The fuel cap is completely painted, also the surface around the hole that hides under the screw.

The top of the screw and the top end of the thread that always sticks out of the fuel cap is painted too.

It is identical to the way it was before repainting in every detail.  
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fourpz
Thats good to hear, I guess the paint is so flawless that it looked like one piece.

So is it finished yet?
Brad
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Neils_betuwe
She is a lantern again.

But I'm still waiting for the valvewheel and decal. I will post pics when she is finally done.


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jun

Awesome job Neils great detail work , remember I have a spot for it!!!

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Neils_betuwe

Thanks for your generous offer Jun, but I think I have a little free spot for it myself

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Spitvalve
Superb, Neils!
I believe for a truly authentic rebuild, the washer under the frame needs to be lost...at least that's how I always find them at yard sales.

What month '62?

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Neils_betuwe

OK, it's showtime!

First a very big thanks to Roger for sending me the decal. He gave it to me as a gift to stimulate me to stick my hands out of my sleeves and to grasp the cow by the horns (Dutch expressions).

I also want to thank Don and Warren for sending me the parts to make this "FFR de luxe" possible
Well... here she is!




The following pictures show how clearly the logo and text are still visible.




Although the lantern has a brand new generator, checkvalve + airstem and packings I will not light it. It's my jewel of the shelves and knowing that she's ready to light like new is enough.

@Mike, the last picture should answer your question.

Neils

I love the smell of white gas in the morning.
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jun
WOW!!!!!!!!!!! Neils, That is FANTASTIC!!!!!!!!! Excellent!!!!!!!!!! AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Light it to make sure it works when you send it to me!!!!!!! LOL
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vwbusman
HOLY SMOKES !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That is BY FAR the nicest 200A I have EVER seen !!!!

My hats off to you Niels, that is unbelievable !!

Bravo


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Spitvalve
Hi Neils,

October '62, not my birthday lantern so no obligation to send it to me!

Doesn't look like a restoration at all, looks like a lantern popped out of its box for the first time...maybe a bit shinier. That's a lantern with real class.

Superb work that really shows up in the picture of the frame rest--absolutely immaculate.

Mike.
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Nevada_Ed
Perfection! Fabulous.

Ed

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fourpz

That is a real beauty, you should be very proud.

Brad
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Neils_betuwe
Thanks for the compliments guys




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adelcoro
Bravo!!!
Congratulations.
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Jim_l
I have a 10/62 but it doesn't shine like that.
Very nice Neils.
    Jim

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Scouterjan
incredible job, better than factory new, I wouldn't light it
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I'm not even going to try to type anything creative here, I'm just at a loss for words.

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Bricklayer
I agree with Roger, a hall of fame, or maybe something along the lines of "worst before and greatest after". Wait a minute now I know why Roger suggested this. LOL. BTW, nothing short of amazing. I am continually impressed with the amount of talent on this forum.
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Frank6160

WOW!!!! If I didn't know it I would think it was new.

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Kevin

Very beautiful piece. I would say that it doesn't get any better than that!

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happycamper

Amazing effort, beautiful results

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suprz
I will bet it didnt look that good when it was new   very nice job
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SilkliteJon

Superb job, Neils. You're going to have a very, very nice collection if you do that to all your lanterns.

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