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Dubblbubbl

I’ve been on the fence about painting or not painting this recent 220e lantern.  This is the tranny from another thread.  After I got the frame off most of the paint under the frame rest was barely hanging on.  Just wiping it down took most of the paint off and there was lots of surface rust.  I’m hesitant to strip and repaint it because of the problems matching the exact color, but I fear that’s where I’m headed.  In the meantime I researched surface rust removal and found a thread talking about using a framing pencil so I tried that.  At first it looked like it was going to be the bees knees, but after a cleanup there was still rust.  Then I remembered a car resto tv show where Ant used a rubber wheel to strip decals without damaging paint and I thought of this drafting eraser that I’ve had since the early 70’s.  This worked perfect on getting almost all the rust off.  I’m sure a rubber wheel on the dremel at slow speed would work just as well.


Now the big question, paint it or no?  And what rattle can to match?  I have an old reference that says Krylon Hunter Green, what are your opinions on this paint?

During and end results:

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Rob in NC
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Jayhawksr
It's a common lantern so I wouldn't have a problem repainting it.  I did a 220E as my first project and I repainted the fount.  Now it's a very nice looking user.  With that said -- it's your lantern so do what you like with it and what makes you happy.  Somewhere on the forum is a list of rattle can paint colors -- if I remember that right.
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74HARLEY
Go ahead and paint it. It will look great and you will able to show it with pride. 
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MYN
I'd have no hesitations to strip down the remaining paint or any rust under it and get on with the hunter green, which should be pretty close to the original. Krylon or any others. That way, the finish would be more uniform and you would not have any extra problems of getting the new paint to blend-in exactly with the old.
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Dubblbubbl
MYN wrote:
I'd have no hesitations to strip down the remaining paint or any rust under it and get on with the hunter green, which should be pretty close to the original. Krylon or any others. That way, the finish would be more uniform and you would not have any extra problems of getting the new paint to blend-in exactly with the old.


oh yeah, this wouldn’t be a spot paint proposition, it would be a full strip and complete repaint.  The matching issue I refer to is the problem where our repaint with off the shelf products doesn’t exactly match the original color and therefore doesn’t match the vent color.  The only folks that have hit the mark are those who have had custom colors mixed and either spray it on themselves or get the custom paint put into rattle cans.
Rob in NC
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Ridge Runner
Personally, I'd paint it.

For what it's worth, and that ain't much, I recently used Krylon Fusion Gloss Hunter Green #2789 on a 228E repaint. It laid up nicely and is pretty darn close in color to the darker green founts of that time period. It is however, more of a blue-green hunter green and is more noticeable when the sun hits it, especially compared to the porcelain vent. Might try something else next time if (when) the opportunity comes up.

At any rate, you may need to make a few swatches and see what looks best compared to the vent, as that is ideally what I'd try to match. Painting some metal flat washers, say 3/8" or 1/2" size or even larger, make good swatches. You can put them on what your trying to match and see the original color in the hole and around the washer. Kinda like this:

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Who says you need to paint it green? you can always paint it another color
I'm working on a project where I'm painting some lanterns in different colors as a tribute to the armed services.
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Who says you need to paint it green?
Valid point, Shawn!

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Dubblbubbl
Who says you need to paint it green? you can always paint it another color
I'm working on a project where I'm painting some lanterns in different colors as a tribute to the armed services.
Shawn 


hmmm, so what color to paint an old tranny?  Sitting here just a chuckling to myself....
Rob in NC
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Rustoleum Hunter Green is a good match, IMHO.
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Gavercronos
I bet a million shekels the fount and vent are already not exactly the same color. Go ahead and repaint it with whatever hunter green you can get your hands on. 
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BSAGuy
Gunhippie wrote:
Rustoleum Hunter Green is a good match, IMHO.


That's my go to for most Coleman green stuff.
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Chucker
I had one or two like that. I used alcohol and 0000 steel wool to treat the rust then use this paint:

Hunt Club Green, Rustoleum 2x:

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When you finish painting you may want to cover with an Engine Enamel Clear coat, good up to 500 deg.F and oil/gas resistant. 
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MYN
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The matching issue I refer to is the problem where our repaint with off the shelf products doesn’t exactly match the original color and therefore doesn’t match the vent color.  The only folks that have hit the mark are those who have had custom colors mixed and either spray it on themselves or get the custom paint put into rattle cans.

Even the exact shade of the same dark green (seafoam, reds, etc. aside) from Coleman lanterns from different eras could differ with each other.
You're right to say that the 'custom-mixed' guys would get the closest match on their particular lanterns. Standard off the shelf products might not be adequate for you since they might not match up to all the shades of dark green that come with the lanterns. Hunter green is currently the closest but it depends on the brand/manufacturer too.
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Donnellym
I’ve dressed up a couple 220’s with a paint job. I know the greens are different through the years. I’ve had very good luck with Rustoleum spray paint. They make Hunter Green and Dark Hunter Green. One of those two will match your vent almost perfectly IMO. You have to see what cap matches your vent better. Good luck!
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Cottage_hill_bill
Given the amount of rust you had on the top, if it were mine there would be no question about stripping and repainting. I would recommend electrolysis or a bench mounted wire wheel to strip it. You will be forever with the Dremel. A five gallon bucket is the perfect lantern fount size for electrolysis. electrolysis will remove all the paint easily and you'll find a network of tiny black lines afterwards that look like spiderweb or worm tracks. That's where moisture got under the paint and was rusting.  Follow the electrolysis with either a light wire wheel buff or scub with steel wool, wipe down with acetone or alcohol and you're ready to paint.
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Phredd
Before you finish work on the outside - is the inside of the fount okay?  If it is also rusty you will need to take care of that as well.

And I use Rustoleum's Dark Hunter Green a lot.

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curtludwig
For a new painter I think Krylon is easier to work with than Rustoleum. Rustoleum is very thick and can be hard to lay down without runs. Krylon is much thinner and, for me, was easier to learn with. People will tell you to make sure to match brands between your primer and color coat, but I never had a problem mixing Rustoleum primer and Krylon paint. I have had trouble with clearcoats that weren't fuel resistant. I can't remember which one wasn't kerosene resistant so its worth making a test. When I splashed a little kero on that one brand it krinkled right up and ripped the paint underneath it clean off. No fun...

The nice thing is that whatever spray bomb you use the paint will be much tougher than the paint Coleman originally used.
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Dubblbubbl
Phredd wrote:
Before you finish work on the outside - is the inside of the fount okay?  If it is also rusty you will need to take care of that as well.

And I use Rustoleum's Dark Hunter Green a lot.


yeah by some miracle the inside is clean/no rust other that a bit around the filler neck.  The cf that I dumped out of it was surprisingly clean.  This is the one where the cap was seized to the fount, so that cf had to have been in there for years.
Rob in NC
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Gavercronos
Primer? What's that? /s
But seriously, even the all-in-one type paint is better than what the factory put on. There's a reason paint comes off these so easily...
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