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Fj40z
Starting disassembly on the F105 I picked up a couple weeks ago. It’s not in terrible shape and would likely fire with just a little attention. There are however a few things I’d like to correct so at least a partial takedown is needed. Burner assembly and figure 8 is removed which leaves a 9/16 nut but it doesn’t look normal. I can’t tell if the nut simply threads down on the inside piece or if it is made together. Here’s a pic of the piece in question. I’ve been heating and applying penetrant but it’s VERY tight. Really don’t want to snap anything. Thanks in advance! Click image for larger version - Name: 64C295E6-D1D3-42DE-8CF1-4A24BA74248C.jpeg, Views: 50, Size: 223.02 KB

Stephen

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SteveRetherford
its a seperate piece , the ringed looking part just secures the handle down first . quite a few other coleman lamps are done similarly .
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Majicwrench
On old stuff like this, if you don't really have to take it apart, don't.

A saying I see on here once in a while "fix it till it's broke".
Keith
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Fj40z
its a seperate piece , the ringed looking part just secures the handle down first . quite a few other coleman lamps are done similarly .


Thanks for the input Steve!!

Stephen

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Fj40z
Majicwrench wrote:
On old stuff like this, if you don't really have to take it apart, don't.

A saying I see on here once in a while "fix it till it's broke".


I think this is exactly what I’m going to have to do. I really would like to get it apart to address a few minor issues but the nut is frozen up so tight I can almost guarantee something else is going to break before it does. 

Stephen

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Hot Diggity
Have you tried unscrewing the ring that secures the handle?  It may fit over the nut, or at least remove the additional tension from it and the nut.

Is that solder between the pieces?
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Fj40z
Hot Diggity wrote:
Have you tried unscrewing the ring that secures the handle?  It may fit over the nut, or at least remove the additional tension from it and the nut.

Is that solder between the pieces?


I was able to get the ring loose but it did not help any with the nut tension. That was a good idea to try though. That’s just some gunky build up between the two pieces. I think I will just clean it up as good as possible the way it is and try and fire it up. If it needs disassembling then I’ll try again. I’d hate to break something on it just for cosmetic issues. I’ll post up a thread in Just Bull about it and post some more pictures. Thanks all!

Stephen

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Fj40z
Still working on the Sunshine and I’m onto my next head scratcher. The pump and check valve assembly. I can get the pump and get pressure but it leaks back out of the check valve. My check valve removal tool doesn’t fit it correctly to remove it and I’ve been using carb cleaner and a BBQ skewer and I have it clean and freed up. It’s still leaking air out to the point it quickly pushes the pump out. First time I’ve came across a check valve like this. Even though it seems totally free and clean am I going to have to pull the check valve? Here’s a picture of the pump stem. Click image for larger version - Name: C7986C33-F247-4726-9391-4D4B67859D81.jpeg, Views: 34, Size: 109.92 KB Click image for larger version - Name: 967B1042-46B8-4BA7-9FB8-82315BCB6F9E.jpeg, Views: 34, Size: 69.49 KB Click image for larger version - Name: 0EBF07E5-A709-446E-B9FB-760EBDD47E1A.jpeg, Views: 32, Size: 68.69 KB

Stephen

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SteveRetherford
probably used a NRV not a CV , see the solid pump stem , those used the NRV . comes out with a large screwdriver , and then put a new pip in it . just speaking in general as i have no actual experience with this model
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Fj40z
probably used a NRV not a CV , see the solid pump stem , those used the NRV . comes out with a large screwdriver , and then put a new pip in it . just speaking in general as i have no actual experience with this model


So this is the NRV I’ve been seeing on here. I’ve read about it many times but this is the first time I’ve encountered it. Thank you again Steve for getting me on the right path!

Stephen

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Hot Diggity
Have you pressurized it and then pulled the pump and squirted some carb cleaner in the pump bore to observe the bubbles?  Holes in the solder joints at bottom of the pump bore, or areas that corroded through might be the issue.

It's a quick diagnostic step.

I hope the leak is the check valve.
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Fj40z
Hot Diggity wrote:
Have you pressurized it and then pulled the pump and squirted some carb cleaner in the pump bore to observe the bubbles?  Holes in the solder joints at bottom of the pump bore, or areas that corroded through might be the issue.

It's a quick diagnostic step.

I hope the leak is the check valve.


Chuck thanks for the input. I did that last night as I was worried about a corrosion or stress crack issue as well. It did bubble right from the middle of the valve so I’m assuming it does just need the pip replaced. I’m going to try and pull it out tonight and see, fingers crossed!

Stephen

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Fj40z
Jackpot! Got it removed. Now my question is what material should I use for the new pip? I’ve searched and read a bunch of posts and I gotta admit I’m a little lost on what to use. Or would it be sacrilege to try and put the newer ball style check valve in it? If so would it be trial and error to find one that might fit? Not a lot of info out there on these so all the help is certainly appreciated! Click image for larger version - Name: 8884E0A8-1EB0-431C-9291-A97BD6BF3A53.jpeg, Views: 23, Size: 82.13 KB

Stephen

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Fj40z
Another thought I had is would the replacement valve 242/242A that OCP sells possibly fit? Might be the easiest rout to take

Stephen

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Macburner
It should come apart OK. They can be a bit tight but a good long soak in a 50/50 mix of ATF/Acetone normally works well. This is from an Australian Aladdin but these are all pretty much the same with a spring loaded brass cup with a 4 or 4.5mm viton seal. ::Neil::
!!Aladdin pump check valve.jpg 

Pluralitas non est ponenda sine neccesitate

 Author-The Pressure Lamp Catalogue (PLC).

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Fj40z
@Macburner Thank you!! The old saying is true about a picture being worth a thousand words. I really appreciate that.

Stephen

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Fj40z
Another good one! Thank you again Steve!

Stephen

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