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hikerduane
On the news I have to get out of Sacramento, CA, been reporting about scammers placing those skimmers inside the panels on gasoline pumps.  Don't know how long they take to install, as workers (if a manned station) should be able to notice a customer taking too long to get gas unless the scammer covers their activity.  News advised people to not use their credit card to buy gas since scammers can access the electronics behind the pump front panel.  Evidently the device transmits card info to someone a short distance away who can quickly use the card info to buy something.  What to do?  Pay cash for gas?  At least in big cities or larger volume gas stations. ?
Duane
Duane-All seasons, year round backpacker and camper.  So many stoves and lanterns, who's counting.
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pongo
I used to pay at the pump . I just go in now and use the chip reader.  Safer?
Phil
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RobSchroff
I use cash at almost every possible opportunity, including paying for gas. 

I try to avoid gas stations that are "pre-pay only", but I'm afraid that these are only becoming more prevalent, thanks to the proliferation of scumbags who think it's OK to drive off without paying for gas.  

While credit/debit cards may offer purchase protection,  it's still a pain when someone gets a hold of your card information and starts making bogus purchases. 
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hikerduane
When I managed a C-store, more than once I had to run after a gas customer.  A few thought since we also had a private card-loc system, that they could also use the cash pumps the same way.  I've had my card info compromised a couple times.
Duane 
Duane-All seasons, year round backpacker and camper.  So many stoves and lanterns, who's counting.
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Trout
I quit using my credit cards for almost everything over 3 years ago after having to replace them 3 times due to hacked databases.  One of those was a grocery store.  Now I only pay medical bills with CCs. 

Everything else is cash that I get at MY bank's ATM or at the counter.  Paying for gas is a bit more of a hassle since I have to pay first then go back in to get the change and receipt but I'm used to it now. 
I use mostly gift cards for online purchases but even one of those got raided by hackers for $110 last year.  I was surprised I got the money back but it took a couple of months.
Mike
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Keith_PA
in town I buy from same gas chain stores.  I go inside and get a pre-paid gas card, and pay cash to add $100 at a time.
Keith

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hikerduane
One motorcycle trip to the California coast at Chevron stations, I had to prepay a couple times with my card.  A PITA one time because we pumped at the furthest pumps.  Chalk it up to a secure transaction.
Duane
Duane-All seasons, year round backpacker and camper.  So many stoves and lanterns, who's counting.
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ecblanks
I try to only use pumps that have the credit card tap to pay.  You can also try wiggling the swiper to see if seems loose and flimsy.
Carlton
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Rubing
The gas station that I frequent on the way to work has a seal on the pump with a sign that says do not use if seal is broken, please report to attendant. Yet I still had to cancel my ATM card yesterday due to a fraudulent charge that I guess could have came from many of the data bases that have been compromised. 
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hikerduane
Maybe the next tech toy will be a electronic lock for pump faces.
Duane
Duane-All seasons, year round backpacker and camper.  So many stoves and lanterns, who's counting.
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Fuzzy
I'll make no judgements on how you pay for your purchases, but I would HIGHLY recommend that you use a CREDIT card instead of a DEBIT card (even if ran as a credit card).  Fraudulent charges will happen; whether you lost your card, it was stolen, information was skimmed/copied, or a database was hacked.  A debit card takes the money directly out of your account, so even if you sign affidavits with your bank, you will be out that money until the bank replaces it.  When you use a credit card, that is not your money and it will be written off by the card issuer as long as you report it in a timely manner.
Chad

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JimL
Very well stated Chad.  I'm not certain the bank is required to return money taken via debit card, but as I understand it, they will.   It would be horrible PR if they didn't, but I don't know how long it would take for you to get your money back.  My debit card only gets used at the bank's ATM and that's it.  

I was a fraud victim many years ago and it was a horrendous experience.  After that, I placed a fraud alert with the three credit bureau's, stating that prior to any credit being issued in my name, that I was to be called and provided my mobile number.  It was supposed to be good the three months, but is still on there to this day.

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Rhubarb
I've had a couple different cards get skimmed. Bank refunded my money within a couple of days each time. I too, like to wiggle the slot and pay with credit option at the pump. 
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Loganeffecto
I feel naked without some cash in my pocket. So I go with cash.
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mksmth
I've had fraud on my debit card 3 times in the last year and a half. Each time it was used to buy stuff online. Always got my money back but had to go without the card for awhile. I never use card at the pump anymore. 
Mike
Mike
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DougA
Rubing wrote:
The gas station that I frequent on the way to work has a seal on the pump with a sign that says do not use if seal is broken, please report to attendant.


This.  There was a story on the local news some months back about the gas station skimmers and that was one thing that was mentioned as a safeguard kind of thing, look for the unbroken seal on a pump.  Also use pumps closest to the store/office/cashier that will be less likely to have been tampered with.  Our county's weights and measures dept. supposedly has a couple of people with some sort of scanners that listen for the skimmer devices as they drive around the area.  One of the local gas station and car wash chains says it rewards its employees for catching nogoodniks tampering with their pumps and attempting to install the skimmers.
DougA  ... fettler and keeper of a family collection of nickel: a 249, a pair of 237s, and a 1938 228B, along with a late 1979 red 200a.  Then two more turned up, a 1941 243A and a 1944 242C, and now there's a b-day 200A lantern, too!.
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AT
I have a Chevron card which I use for gas and pay in full each month. ALL gas stations here are prepay for cash, and with gas prices constantly fluctuating any more it's hard to keep track of how much cash it takes to fill the tank every time. The Chevron card is the same price for fuel as cash. Credit cards are safer and have better protections than debit cards if fraudulent activity occurs.
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JimL wrote:
Very well stated Chad.  I'm not certain the bank is required to return money taken via debit card, but as I understand it, they will.   It would be horrible PR if they didn't, but I don't know how long it would take for you to get your money back.  My debit card only gets used at the bank's ATM and that's it.  

I was a fraud victim many years ago and it was a horrendous experience.  After that, I placed a fraud alert with the three credit bureau's, stating that prior to any credit being issued in my name, that I was to be called and provided my mobile number.  It was supposed to be good the three months, but is still on there to this day.


i ran into this issue with my wife’s debit card a few years ago. She used it at Costco and the credit unions ATM. Over the Memorial Day weekend we lost lower five figures of cash.
The bank called on Tuesday asking if we were in Chicago over the holiday. We were not! They said to stop in and sign paperwork which I did. They mentioned it might take 2-3 days to reverse the charges. I pointed out the number of outstanding checks that were bound to bounce.
as I was driving home my phone lit up repeatedly as they reversed the charges.
I am fairly confident it was a skimmer at the CU. I actually called Costco in WA and was able to reach their director of corporate security easily. He was helpful and confident it didn’t happen there. He mentioned when they started selling gas he learned most gas pump manufacturers used a single key for all of the pumps they sell and that they were unwilling to buy pumps keyed the same as everyone else’s!
He also mentioned a skimmer required both the skimmer and a camera to record your pin? 

Kevin

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Chucker
Cash or pay with card inside here. 
Chuck
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rob_pontius
I only use the card reader at the pump if it has the tamper evident tape over the seam of the reader door.
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