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in stock.

ecblanks
There is an ad for a couple of milspecs nearby. Also includes bottom pics.
One is clearly SMP, the other says Sears Roebuck and Co, 65, Made in USA.  Can't see if there is a month. 
Probably just a Coleman with an errant plate?
Go ahead and search it up for a swipe, he wants $150 for the rusty pair.
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ecblanks
The lantern/pic may be fake but the news ain't. FWIW the seller is not advertising as "rare". If the mods will allow it I'll post the link. 
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Gasman64
Sounds interesting, Carlton; what kind of ad? CL? Just realize that if you think there might happen to be other collectors anywhere near you, making the ad known here might allow someone else to beat you to it, if you have any interest.
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ecblanks wrote:
The lantern/pic may be fake but the news ain't. 

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ecblanks
I have no interest in it. For one , it's $150 for a pair of poor condition milspecs. For another, I'm also not convinced that a Sears branded milspec is all that valuable. We know that Coleman made milspecs and Sears models in 65, so I think odds are it just got assembled with the wrong plate. 
From my experience as a collector, factory mistakes don't usually attract a lot of attention or increase in value.
That said I won't post the ad, but I live in Raleigh, NC. 
Did I tell you about the rare GI Joe figure I saw on FB Marketplace this morning?
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JimL
>> I'm also not convinced that a Sears branded milspec

Not convinced?  Is it only because Sears never made lanterns?  🙂

Edit: If not a live auction, you can post a link.  If it's in a classified, likely most collectors in that area have already seen the ad.

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ecblanks
JimL wrote:
>> I'm also not convinced that a Sears branded milspec

Not convinced?  Is it only because Sears never made lanterns?  🙂

I said "branded" not "made"/manufactured. Distinct difference. If it does say Sears then it is Sears branded.
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REJ2
ecblanks wrote:

I said "branded" not "made"/manufactured. Distinct difference. If it does say Sears then it is Sears branded.


I'm ready to see it! Never heard of or seen a Sears Milspec, but never seen a unicorn till just the other.........
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JimL
If it were a genuine Sears 'branded' mil-spec, I could be wrong, but wouldn't be surprised if it's the only one in existance.  Without seeing a pic, I suspect some kid played around with dad's lanterns or it has an Aladdin conversion.

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ecblanks
Ah, "officially branded"; now that may be the differentiator! Judging from the pics it's legit, but I still favor the "factory mistake" theory. I'll post the pics in a little bit.
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ecblanks
Here's all the pics, including the SMP so as to not build any bias.  I'll let you be the judge.  Seller does not try to represent them as anything other than "old military lanterns".  On my laptop I was able to see that the Sears is 8/65, FWIW.
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ecblanks
Can someone post a bottom shot of a 65 Sears (other than a Ted)? Curious if the stamping is the same.
If the pics are genuine, then I think we can at least conclude that this is a Coleman made piece.  They were making military lanterns in 65 and they were making Sears lanterns in 65.  
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Here's my 5/65 (220E type, but wide fount)
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Thinking the kid soldered a parts well or bottom on his dads lantern!

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OregonMichael
That's really interesting.  And...I think you're correct.  Someone at the factory picked up the wrong fount bottom and it wound up on a milspec.  Probably one of a kind, but I agree; not worth paying that kind of money to get.  
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I second the "wrong fount bottom grabbed at the factory" motion. I have seen a 200A with a 502 fount bottom. It was not a repaint or some kind of frank. Just my thoughts on it.
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This would potentially be a fake although likely a decades old innocent one, IMO.
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ecblanks
I really don't see how they could have faked this. I still think the factory error is the most plausible explanation. If I get a chance I'll at least go check it out but it's about an hour away.
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REJ2
Wrong bottom or otherwise, its definitely different and unique. Factory errors and one offs is something we all wish to come across. I'd trade 40 220F's for it.
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rob_pontius
I'd like to have it just because it's different. I'd even pay that price for the pair. Sometimes, I'm a fool like that.
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rob_pontius wrote:
I'd like to have it just because it's different. I'd even pay that price for the pair. Sometimes, I'm a fool like that.


Rob, your no fool, you see it like I do, its different, I've never seen one before. It would be a conservation piece for sure. Hell I waste $150 a week, this would be worth it.
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rob_pontius
It sure would be worth it to me.  I love the odd stuff that others find no value in. I even have a WWII portable bomb hoist at home. I saved it from a local scrap broker just because it's a part of history.
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macwacs
I like it also. Anybody notice that it has the marked quad glass? Looks like they both do. Most interesting lanterns. Parts wells just might be full of spare parts also.
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I've gotta say, Carlton, seeing that fount bottom with Sears on it in that MilSpec color was interesting.
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Rob that would look good hanging from your bomb hoist. It's da bomb!
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10gage
Being that it’s a 65 someone must have stuck a 220 size fount bottom in the sears stamp machine. Because sears bottom founts At that time are wider than anything else I’m aware of at that time.
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I'm in the someone goofed or was screwing around at the factory camp. Pretty neat variant anyhow.  Rob, how about a pic of the bomb hoist. Is it the tracked cherry picker looking one? E.
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10gage wrote:
Being that it’s a 65 someone must have stuck a 220 size fount bottom in the sears stamp machine. Because sears bottom founts At that time are wider than anything else I’m aware of at that time.

I believe the Sears singles were 220 sized at that time
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egroscup wrote:
I'm in the someone goofed or was screwing around at the factory camp. Pretty neat variant anyhow.  Rob, how about a pic of the bomb hoist. Is it the tracked cherry picker looking one? E.
  The hoist that I have is a handheld unit. It would be carried to the plane and hung from the wing or roof of the bomb bay on the B-17 and B-25 bombers. After the bombs were attached, it would be cranked up by hand. I'll see if I can get some pictures of it. 
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I believe the Sears singles were 220 sized at that time


in that case that seems to be what happened 
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Price has now dropped to $80 
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ecblanks
Now that's a different story
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ecblanks
OK, scheduled to meet this guy this weekend and have a look.  
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