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caseydavis
Hi Everyone!

I've read several tales of people saying they get perfectly good Coleman stoves for free and always thought that was a line. That can't possibly happen to regular people right? Well lo and behold it happened to me today!

I found a nice looking 413G for sale on my local Craigslist for $25 and contacted the seller. She was kind about answering questions and told me she wanted to put fuel in it and make sure it worked before she sold it to me. So a few hours later she calls me back and said the stove worked but the satellite burner had a larger flame than she remembered and she it felt unsafe. She said she wasn't comfortable selling me the stove since it wasn't in 100% working order... so she offered to just let me take it for free! ÃƒÆ’ƒÆ’ƒÃ†Ãƒ¢â‚¬â„¢ÃƒÆ’‚°ÃƒÃ¢â‚¬Â¦Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¸ÃƒÃ¢â‚¬Â¹Ãƒâ€¦Ã¢â‚¬Å“Ž

I drove over to her place and she was waiting for me in the front yard with stove and can of white gas in the other hand! "I'm just glad it's going to a good home!", she said and after I profusely thanked her I put the package in my Jeep and drove home.


Manufactured May of 1977. Sadly not a B-Day stove for me but it's my first rodeo.

I've been watching resto videos on Youtube and found some great threads on CCF as well. So far I've taken the stove apart and given it a good first-pass wash with de-greaser and a plastic scrubber. Also on the drip tray I took a wire wheel to it on my corded drill and made a lot of progress cleaning off 43 years of gunk.



Upon closer inspection I noticed that the second burner "key" was missing and apparently she had been using a needle-nosed pair of pliers to adjust the burner. That might be why it was not performing up to spec! Everything else looked to be in good shape, very tiny amounts of rust on the bare metal portions of the suitcase but overall really nice.

 

So my first question into this journey of stove restoration, should I replace this one stem off the satellite burner (mantle?) or should I replace the whole assembly? Also where in the heck do I buy that part?



As you can see the threads are thrashed so I don't think there is any saving them. I'm not sure if something could have been over torqued using pliers? I plan on taking a crescent wrench and taking that piece off tomorrow to see if any other damage has occurred.



The tank also leaked white gas on the drive home as the stove was set upright in the back of the Jeep so I'm guessing the rubber gaskets probably need to be replaced. Is there a "rebuild kit" someone sells for the 413G with all the gaskets or will I just need to pick and choose individual parts?

Thanks for the advice and for looking!
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caseydavis
I found the problem!

After removing the burner cup it was apparent why the satellite burner was not working correctly...



The horror!! Someone really man-handled the valve with those pliers, wow! The washer that closes off the gas burner was bent and looked like a Pringles chip!

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Gasman64
[welcome], Casey, from Pennsylvania!
Well, how about that, you stole your first stove! Not a bad looking one, either, and looks like you're getting it sorted right away.
Not a whole lot of things to replace to stop fuel leaking, other than the cap gasket, available from our host Cigar Mike and Old Coleman Parts...just click on the banner across the top of the main forum page...or, here-  https://www.oldcolemanparts.com/home.php  Other than the fuel cap gasket, not much else to replace to prevent leaks.  The packing  on the fuel tank valve may possibly leak, but that's usually easily remedied by gently snugging up the packing nut around the valve stem.
I'm not sure if Mike has replacement parts for that aux. burner or not, but lots of members here have lots of parts, so a post in "Classifieds" should get you what you need.
While you have it all apart, make sure there's no obstructions in that tube between the burners; run a piece of stiff wire through there to be sure, as bugs or mud wasps actually like making their home in there.  Members here have found all manner of insects, etc., in air tubes in both lanterns and stoves.
Steve
ICCC #1012
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TwoCanoes
This is the filler cap gasket you'll need:
https://www.oldcolemanparts.com/product.php?productid=2732&cat=&page=1
Be warned, it's generally a pain to get the old gasket out of the cap on those one piece caps.  There are several threads here with suggestions on how to remove the old gasket without losing too much blood.
I have a couple of 413 parts stoves.  I may have the secondary burner control you need.  I'll check tomorrow and let you know.
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Kgam1020
Welcome from Western Mass, Nice find! I just recently restored a 426D. Looks like you are the right direction. Cleaning and metal prep is key to repainting. Like others have said, replace the cap gasket. Check the check valve in the pump well, i have had good luck just spraying carb cleaner down it to free the little ball BB in it. Sometimes they have to be removed and cleaned. Soak the leather pump in some Neatsfoot oil to soften the leather. Sorry this isn't a direct link but this the topic of my 426D restore. Good luck on your project.    https://www.colemancollectorsforum.com/post/426d-before-and-after-10540993?pid=1311665922
Ken.
Looking for Bday lanterns, 10/83, 11/84 and 10/2011.
Milspec Syndicate member #1020 
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1hpycmpr
Congrats on a scoring a nice looking stove, Casey and welcome from Colorado!  I’m up north of you in Evans.  I know I have the plate that you have shown as being bent.  I may have the handle for the shaft as well.  I can check when I get home from work and let you know,
Mark
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GCinSC
A good stove needs TLC and a good home. That's a good size, more room than the 425.

You'll get it working. 
Gary, self acclaimed Cast Iron Camp Cook & Tinkerer.
Coleman 275 Appreciation Syndicate #0154
Mil-SpecOps #0308
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BSAGuy
Hello and welcome from The Old North State, Casey.  Great to have you here on the CCF.  Great start with a free 413.  I like those better than the 425's.  More room for larger pots without being too big to handle easily.

Great diagnosis as well.  As noted above, there are plenty of folks here who have the parts that you need.  Also be sure to run an aquarium cleaning brush or some other large diameter brush through all the burner tubes to make sure there aren't any spider or mud dauber nests in there that restrict airflow.

I wouldn't mess with repainting the case.  It looks pretty good from here and doing that is a major project. 
- Courtenay
Be Prepared
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TwoCanoes
I have the parts you need.  Send your address in a message and I should be able to get them into the mail in the next day or two.  I also have a spare gasket for a 1 piece cap that I can send.
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1hpycmpr
After looking at your first picture, I’m wondering if the valve shaft is long enough to reach outside the case where the flat handle should be located.  The end of the shaft is not threaded but should have a hole in it so a handle can be secured with a pin.
Mark
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12057dave
Welcome Casey from NE Ohio. Nice score on a very nice 413!
Dave                                                       BernzOmatic Appreciation Club #1957
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caseydavis
Thanks for all the kind words and welcomes everyone! Also a big thanks to TwoCanoes for pulling the parts needed off a spare stove of his and dropping them into the mail to me free of charge! What a wonderful community I've been welcomed into, thank you so much! Big thanks to 1hpycmpr for offering up parts as well!

I ran to the automotive store yesterday and was able to find a can of VHT heat proof paint an put a few coats on the burners and reassembled the stove for now


Didn't do anything to the case aside from scrub it with de-greaser and I think I'm going to leave that patina finish on mine.


Just for fun I wiped down the tank and took a "finished" photo of how everything will look. Still need to pull apart the tank and clean it well but I'm excited for how far I've got in a couple of days.


Finally a buddy of mine located a stove on Craigslist he paid for and asked me to rehab this stove for him! So here's what he dropped off to me plus liquid payment. 😄

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Kgam1020
Your 413 looks awesome. The case to the stove is in great shape. 😁 looks like you have a good buddy to me. 
Ken.
Looking for Bday lanterns, 10/83, 11/84 and 10/2011.
Milspec Syndicate member #1020 
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Dvan95
Hahaha way to score all that beer! And the stove, too! It looks great. Welcome from Canada 🙂 
-Dan

Coleman Quick Lite Crew #048

 Anyone have a 6/95 birthday lantern?
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1hpycmpr
Dang, I need to raise my fees!  Nice score on the beer!
Mark
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Pancholoco1911

I found this on the bay today and I don’t know if is the correct one for your stove. 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/153996958658

~Pancho~
Looking for B-Day lantern 9/83, 7/85, 10/04, 5/11, 2/19
BernzOmatic Appreciation Club #101
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BSAGuy
That 413 looks righteous, Casey.  Well done.
- Courtenay
Be Prepared
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caseydavis

Thanks for all the kind words and welcomes everyone!

Just wanted to share a quick update. I took apart the fuel tank and cleaned it really well with carb cleaner. Lots of old soot caked on the parts and the generator tube was pretty clogged up. I carefully scrubbed the needle valve clean and looked at the check valve. After a generous soak and scrub down with a scotch pad I put the tank back together and filled it with fuel.

Flows a lot easier now however I was just getting a large yellow flame and no blue flame for a few minutes.

After messing with the fuel valve and pressure for a few minutes I finally got the mixture right and it settled into a nice blue flame with a good hissing noise. Success!

I've been busy enjoying the Colorado sunshine this past two weeks and it does not disappoint. Got away from the crowds of Denver into this peaceful spot close to Gunnison this week.

Had some great meals and even better company on my camping trip. My lady friend was very impressed with the salmon and my her golden doodle Willie Nelson was very eager to help us clean our plates!

I received a package of parts in the mail on Wednesday from TwoCanoes and it's exactly what I need to fix the warming burner! I'm going to clean those parts tomorrow and get them painted in the afternoon heat. I'll post more pics as parts make their way back on the stove!

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Kgam1020
Nice job! That 413 is going to be a nice burner. Nice pictures of your trip. 
Ken.
Looking for Bday lanterns, 10/83, 11/84 and 10/2011.
Milspec Syndicate member #1020 
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1hpycmpr
Glad to see you got the stove up and running, Casey.  And even nicer to see you got the heck out of Dodge and hopefully into cooler weather.  Great pictures!
Mark
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