200A and 202 reproduction
frames back
in stock.

cainlp
I read about this on the forum a while back, and after many skinned knuckles and a lot of unacceptable language, decided to try it out.  I felt so good about it I thought I might share it.  Like a hot knife through soft butter.
Fount Tool 1.jpg  Fount Tool 2.jpg  Fount Tool 3.jpg
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hikerduane
If I just had a work working vise like that, made your job easy.
 Duane
Duane-All seasons, year round backpacker and camper.  So many stoves and lanterns, who's counting.
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TwoCanoes
hikerduane wrote:
If I just had a work working vise like that, made your job easy.
 Duane
I don't know what it's like around where you live, but I fairly often see these Workmates at thrift stores and pawn shops around here.
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hikerduane
Thrift store here has nice clothes, no pawn shop.  I only needed help with one fount so far, a neighbor had a bigger vise and a larger rubber strap.
Duane
Duane-All seasons, year round backpacker and camper.  So many stoves and lanterns, who's counting.
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cainlp
My workmate brings back a lot of happy and sad memories.  It was given to me as a birthday present by a friend over thirty years ago, maybe even forty.  My friend had a combination heart attack/heat stroke while playing softball and died on the ball field maybe 20 years ago.  It sits in my garage largely unused, but every once in a while, when I pull it out for a project, I think about my buddy and all the good times we had together!
In the beautiful Sorrento Valley, between the towering snow-covered peaks of Mt. Dora and Mt. Plymouth.
ICCC # 1508
Coleman 275 Appreciation Syndicate # 166
BernzOmatic Appreciation Club # 046
Canadian Blues Syndicate # 43
Coleman Slant Saver Group # 34
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cainlp
Hikerduane, you reminded me that I plan on cutting up a bicycle inner tube and gluing to the inside of the wood.  I skipped that step on what you see because the fount was probably used as a boat anchor for a couple of years, and I didn't worry about minor scratches.  The cutout is about a quarter inch bigger than a 200 fount,to allow for the thickness of the rubber.  Now... where did I put that extra bicycle inner tube 15 or so years ago...
In the beautiful Sorrento Valley, between the towering snow-covered peaks of Mt. Dora and Mt. Plymouth.
ICCC # 1508
Coleman 275 Appreciation Syndicate # 166
BernzOmatic Appreciation Club # 046
Canadian Blues Syndicate # 43
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outlawmws
That's a good use for a Workmate!  I'm guessing a 200 or 225?

Workmates also often show up on Craig's list and in yard/estate sales.  Heck I picked one up from the curb!

The one shown is the freestanding type and  they made many variants.  The one variant I won't touch are the "TV Tray" type - just not very stable!    I've mostly migrated to the early aluminum framed versions, and I have one that is the original all aluminum frame.

You can get them bench mount, (these can pivot) wall mount (also pivots and folds out of the way), and a littler hobby version that has a swivel head.

I prefer the freestanders, and like to have two identical for large jobs.  These can also be had as an expandable work bench, which can be handy, but its also heavy....

I use one for many of my bench mounted tools.  Bench space is valuable so the only thing that is bolted to my bench is a vintage 4" Parker 974 vise.  Bench grinders, chop saws, arbor press, etc, even my reloading presses, get mounted to a plate (Usually plywood), and the plates get clamped into my workmates.

I glue and screw a cleat to the bottom of the plate, with a larger "safety" so even if the WorkMate loosens its grip, its not coming out easily.  The mounting plates are generally all the same width, and I have a "shelving" unit that many  drop into when not in use.  The plate IS the shelf, so the tool is not rocking on the cleat.  This also saves vertical space.
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Gunhippie
I turn the fount upside own, place the valve in some padded jaws on my bench vice and use a rubber strap wrench around the rim of the fount to unscrew it. No busted knuckles, never.

The fount vices look cool, but I just don't have room for any more single-purpose tools. The bench vice and strap wrench get used daily.
It's priceless until someone puts a price on it.
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outlawmws
I do the same.  I feel like I have more control over the fount, than a wrench on the valve, and am less likely to bend the fount. or the valve.
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Dubblbubbl
Gunhippie wrote:
I turn the fount upside own, place the valve in some padded jaws on my bench vice and use a rubber strap wrench around the rim of the fount to unscrew it. No busted knuckles, never.

The fount vices look cool, but I just don't have room for any more single-purpose tools. The bench vice and strap wrench get used daily.


+1 on this method, with one exception, I don’t have a big enough strap wrench so I have to muscle it.  This last time I had to use a foot long 1/2 inch ratchet extension in the pump tube to get enough leverage, have to be very careful to not tweak anything.  My ‘padded’ vise is a regular vise with a couple pieces of wood sandwiched between the brass valve and the vise jaws.
Rob in NC
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Coleman 275 Appreciation Syndicate #1962

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outlawmws
Generally I can muscle the fount by hand;  rarely do I need the strap wrench - Having said that, there is one 275 I haven't been able to budge...
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Rfieldbuilds

Heat is your friend on that weird reddish thread sealant/lock they used in the 70’s.  

i too love the idea of a fount vise, but like Timm  lack the room.   I see the opening of the table as a great place to clamp a couple boards and insert the upside down fount in that slot and then turn the fount.  I really like that method over trying to tuen the valve.  Of course, if I had the room....   

Randy
QL #15, Slant Saver #59, #0269 Turd Hurdler, #0269 Mil Spec Syndicate, Coleman Blues 243 #0269, BernzOmatic Appreciation Club #072, and a few others too.
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BSAGuy
Nice vise.  I love my Workmate 225.  What a well designed, clever product.  Got it on CraigsList.  Like Outlaw, I use it primarily for my reloading press.
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Gunhippie
outlawmws wrote:
Generally I can muscle the fount by hand;  rarely do I need the strap wrench - Having said that, there is one 275 I haven't been able to budge...


I started using the strap wrench on the rim of the fount after I dented a brass fount with my hands. Yeah, too strong for my own good! Actually, the sides of a brass fount are pretty danged soft. I always brace my left hand against the opposite side of the fount from the handle of the wrench so I don't risk bending the bung area--something else I can't do with a Crescent wrench.
It's priceless until someone puts a price on it.
Walk a mile in a man's shoes before you criticize him--then you're a mile away, and he has no shoes.
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outlawmws
I always use the rim to support the strap wrench, and concentrated my grip there also when doing it by hand.  
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Dubblbubbl
And also be careful not to bend the top of the fount where the bung is.  I did that on the first one I did but was able to straighten it back out using a big phillips head screw driver.  Why phillips?  Because it had a round shaft instead of square.
Rob in NC
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cainlp
All good ideas. I bought a rubber strap wrench a while back when sheer muscle on an upside down fount in a vice wouldn't work.  Being unsuccessful with that, I was happy to find a way that finally worked for me.
In the beautiful Sorrento Valley, between the towering snow-covered peaks of Mt. Dora and Mt. Plymouth.
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Tigerfans2
With 200's and 242's I've had luck just using the workmate's swivel grip pegs. Don't use it much as I have a regular fount vise
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clifforddward
I too have a Workmate bench that I used only yesterday as a painting platform for a pair of caboose lanterns I am restoring.  I seem to have a love-hate relationship with the Workmate...on one hand it takes up a fair amount of space in storage and sometimes seems unwieldy when trying to open and get set up (need to oil joints regularly)...but in actual practice it is usually my "go to" for holding stuff I am working on.

Mine had a lifetime of use by my unhandy Dad before I inherited it...I see my two sons already wondering which of them will get (or have to take) it.

HaHa
Cliff Ward
Cary, North Carolina
ICCC #1955
Wanted: USFS lanterns with embossed fount...complete lantern or just the fount.
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outlawmws
A comment on the free standing WorkMates, and this applies to the older and later versions:  the extension legs have springs to keep them retracted or extended.  (metal on the older, Plastic on the later)  both varieties require lube on the scrubbing surface, as if they grab when moving the leg, the plastic ones will break, and the metal ones will bend.

I use "Door-Eaze" but beeswax will also do fine. wetter lubes just attract grit...
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FAS #001 Confusing Future Generations of Collectors, One Lantern at a Time!

“A Human Being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, give orders, take orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook  a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly.  Specialization is for insects.”            - Lazarus Long


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Dmacp
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I turn the fount upside own, place the valve in some padded jaws on my bench vice and use a rubber strap wrench around the rim of the fount to unscrew it. No busted knuckles, never.


I don't use the strap wrench, I just clamp the valve body and spin the fount off. It's easy-unless you have a 275.
Dan
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