200A and 202 reproduction
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in stock.
Quick Cal
So I've read lots of complaints about the new mantles not be as good as the old ones. Can you guys recommend something. Is it the same part number just nos so to spek.

I need some for my newly acquired 275.
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Quick Cal
You guys ever hear of American wick co. I wonder if these would work.

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RonMack
I've used American Mantles and they are fine. I also use Peerless and for test mantles, the cheap butterfly ones on Epay.  Great job on trouble shooting that lantern, by the way. 
Ron    ICCC # 1770

Forget the map and the GPS. "I know where we are!!!!

Coleman 275 Appreciation Syndicate # 0174 BernzOmatic Appreciation Club #020 MilSpecOps #0032 
Coleman Slant Saver #45
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Quick Cal
RonMack wrote:
I've used American Mantles and they are fine. I also use Peerless and for test mantles, the cheap butterfly ones on Epay.  Great job on trouble shooting that lantern, by the way. 


Would you say they are any better than the modern Colemans?
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RonMack
I've used modern Colemans and have had them split on me during burn in. So I don't buy them anymore. If they come with a lantern or in trade I will use them.
Ron    ICCC # 1770

Forget the map and the GPS. "I know where we are!!!!

Coleman 275 Appreciation Syndicate # 0174 BernzOmatic Appreciation Club #020 MilSpecOps #0032 
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JimL
I'm sure the 'American Wick' mantles would work, but check to see if any collectors are interested in trading first.  The lanterns listed on the package haven't been made in many years.  Did you find those recently or were they with a lantern?

As far as mantles are concerned, some have issues with Coleman's, but I don't.  I suggest trying different ones and deciding for yourself.  The Peerless (at least the previous ones, before Peerless changed hands) are roughly 30% larger than Coleman #21's, but are considered the equivalent.

-Jim

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Quick Cal
RonMack wrote:
I've used modern Colemans and have had them split on me during burn in. So I don't buy them anymore. If they come with a lantern or in trade I will use them.


So what do you mostly use?
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zoomkat
The packaging in the photo looks very similar to the current American Mantle mantles. Coleman #21 mantles are bright and usually available for local purchase. They may tend to be a little frail and may develop small holes. Peerless mantles are available thru various mail order sources, but some have reported issues with some of the new ones. Aladdin #200 mantles are available via mail order and probably the same as the old Peerless. I've used the 10cm Butterfly mantles for testing , and they seem to also work well and at a low price (10 for $2.19 shipped on ebay).
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Chucker
I really use whatever I have.

For serious 500cp running I use Peerless 111's, 24A's, or the Original Petromax. 

Your 275 will run new or old Coleman's fine. I find the newer Coleman better made than the Butterfly one's. It's hard to beat the old Coleman Silk-lites for a 275 or any 2 mantle. 
Chuck
"Stop being angry, and forget about getting back at people; do not worry -- it only causes harm." Ps. 37:8
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Quick Cal
Oh man. These American Wick Co mantles are great!! I could tell the were heavier and thicker right out of the bag. They didn't seem fragile at all.

So I tied them on and lit them. Oh no. They smelled funny and went up in flames. I thought you dip ship that's the wrong kind of mantle you  just wasted. But then they settled down and I was left with 2 perfect little globes. Like they were formed that way. Not like some dried up nut sack like the new Colemans,,,lol.

I'm assuming in Chucker's post above 500cp Peerless mantles means 500 candle power? Means hotter? Cause I swear these seem like they are brighter and put out more heat. Is that ok in this 275.

Don't know if you guys caught my video at the end of my other 275 thread but the Coleman mantle just fell off from putting the top back on. That lead me to look for a better mantle. Point is these Americans seem to take a beating. I swear,,,lol. I had trouble getting my vent back on after lighting. I was really being rough with the thing. Then I bumped it a few times carrying it around. Then I took the top back off for the pics below. It was stuck. Point is these things are a lot tougher IMO.

Did you ever see anyone get so excited over mantles. Hey I 'm new. It's like playing with fire,,,lol.

I wished they had more but there's only one more pack. Would I be able to put these on my Coleman 51xx propane lantern? If not I'll just save them for my 275.

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Chucker
Yes, nearly any liquid fuel or propane 2 mantle lantern or lamp will take them. I'd save them and tie them onto a shelf queen (if you have any) and not burn them in. 
Chuck
"Stop being angry, and forget about getting back at people; do not worry -- it only causes harm." Ps. 37:8
Eye-SEE-C-C Member #1333 -- MilSpecOps #003
"Michigan - from the Ojibwa word “meicigama,” meaning “great water.”
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Eel
AmWick's successor is American Mantle of Morris, Indiana.  americanmantle.us   Like Aladdin, they were reselling Peerless-PH product.  Aladdin has been through a couple of bankruptcies lately. 
I don't know why you'd waste nice mantles like those on a 5152.  lol...
I like big mantles and I cannot lie!  I cannot personally speak for a 275 beyond its similarity to a big 220, but 220s like to fill 500cp mantles just fine.

EEL Eclectic Lanterns, div.  Doofenshmirtz-EEL Incorporated.

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mgmlvks
Quick Cal: I have not had issues with newer Coleman mantles - some do.  21's, 21A's all work for these applications.  That said - I have found ealier Peerless to be sturdier and brighter - but use what ever works 

But - Think you said the one that fell off was a "clip-on".  Coleman made a couple of different versions of these "Insta-Clips" and they drive me NUTS!  I don't buy them, but they often come with lanterns I do buy.  I use them for testing because I cannot figure out how to keep them in place on some of the lanterns.  Many stay on for a good while, some give up and fail at the mantle or the clips slide off the burner tip.
Mike, ICCC member #1156, Slant Saver Group #011, 275 Appreciation Syndicate #0215
"In order for the light to shine so brightly, the darkness must be present"
Francis Bacon
(and - for those who have asked - avatar from postcard and says "Coming Home by Rail".  https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4595/27430282209_39a564be00_z.jpg
 
 
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JimL
>>I use them for testing because I cannot figure out how to keep them in place on some of the lanterns. 

I haven't used Coleman clip-ons, but another brand that was on clearance a couple of years ago.  I think the clip-ons I had would be much better suited to the larger burner size such as a 200/242.  The diameter of the burners on  220's or lamps are too small, unless you twist the wire like you would on a loaf of bread.  I wonder if this is the case with the Coleman clip-ons.

-Jim

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Quick Cal
So concerning the American Wick Co mantles pictured above, do those have the Thorium in them.

I did a search and it lead me back here. There's some shown with the package marked with the ingredients. Thorium is listed. Just wondering since these that I have are so old, although the package isn't labeled as such could it still be the older good ones with the good stuff,,,lol.
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Eel
Quick Cal wrote:
So concerning the American Wick Co mantles pictured above, do those have the Thorium in them.  I did a search and it lead me back here. There's some shown with the package marked with the ingredients. Thorium is listed. Just wondering since these that I have are so old, although the package isn't labeled as such could it still be the older good ones with the good stuff,,,lol.


So the only way you're really going to answer that question is with a Geiger counter... 
IMHO and YMMV - I'm not seeing that much difference with different doping materials.  If you are worried about brightness, properly clean your air tube for the win.  I get bright white light out of all kinds of good and junky mantles on "all kinds" of lanterns and lamps except slants and 3927s, both of which apparently run rich by design.  (I am near sea level.)

EEL Eclectic Lanterns, div.  Doofenshmirtz-EEL Incorporated.

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Phredd
While I agree the Colmen's of today are not as good as in the past, I bought a couple boxes from WalMort when they were dumping inventory of the 4-pack 21s. The price was 50 cents for a 4 pack!!!  I mentioned this to my brother in MD (not a coleman guy) and he went to his local WalMort and bought me two more boxes.... So i have enough to last me for, well, lets just say long after I will not longer been needing anything....

I also note I am getting a very low failure rate with normal use.....
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JimL
Eel is right, you need access to a Geiger counter to be certain. If you have a hospital nearby, you could wander over to their radiology department and ask them to pull it out and check.  I did that once to see if my watch was detectable since it has 80 vials of tritium on the dial.  Fortunately, it was not detectable.

You don't want to waste thorium mantles because they are so hard to come by.  Save thorium mantles for a lantern you know is operating at 100%.

-Jim

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zoomkat
There are hobby grade Geiger counters available on line for ~$70. Some time back somebody posted results of checking various mantles with a Geiger counter, but due to some sketchy comments concerning what was/was not being measured, the discussion was deleted by the poster. For somebody seriously interested in Thorium content in mantles, I would think they would get a hobby Geiger counter to see what they had.  
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yorker
Are the Coleman Silk Lights  considered " Great" Mantles for the proper lantern? Are they the same as a " 21"?  I know my first Coleman lantern, a propane model sure put out the light, but those mantles are so fragile after  just one use.
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JimL
I don't recall them ever being considered fragile.  Keep in mind that they may be pushing 40 years since they were last made, and how previous owners stored them could be causing them to be fragile.  Regardless, they're hard to find or expensive, so save them for properly functioning lanterns or 'special' occasions.  I'm sure your propane is fine as they tend to work or don't.  Not much in-between.  I think the size should be stated on the package, and a #21 should be the same size as a current #21.

-Jim

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JeepJeepster
I've not had a single issue out of the coleman mantles.. Ill continue to stock up and use them since they're available locally. 
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Chucker
FYI, about a month ago our Wally World just re-stocked with the 4-packs of Coleman mantles. Still less than $4 USD as I recall. 
Chuck
"Stop being angry, and forget about getting back at people; do not worry -- it only causes harm." Ps. 37:8
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"Michigan - from the Ojibwa word “meicigama,” meaning “great water.”
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pagrey
Anybody wants to test a mantle for thorium send me a PM. I will test for free. Send it in an envelope and I'll test and send it back. No charge and no questions and I'll pay the return postage. Obviously new mantles only, I don't want an envelope full of dust.
Paul
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