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gpaguy
Has anyone ever seen an R55 generator, Coleman, AGM's version of R55 or some other manufacture that had a longer threaded nut than what is most common on the bottom end of these ?  I thought that I had seen one like this before somewhere.
The reason I ask is I tried installing a standard Coleman R55 gen. into this A. J. Lindemann and Hoverson lantern and it could not be threaded in far enough to make the flair seat because of the nut. The threading is a perfect match and not the problem.
When I got the lantern it did not have a generator but it did include a generator nut. This nut must have come from a Q77 or L & H version of a Q77 . Comparing this original nut with the Coleman R55 there is about a 1/4" difference in length and that is enough to matter.
I really had my heart set on an R55 as this lantern has no built in pricker.  I realize I could be stuck using a Q77.

In this pic. is a standard Coleman R55 and an actual L & H strait generator along with the original nut. It doesn't say on the L&H gen. packaging if this gen is for single mantle lanterns or double mantle so I not sure this combo will work either.
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John
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SteveRetherford
there are a few lanterns that a coleman nut wont fit on . they needed more threads like the preways , but thats a female nut .... so i look at my L and H and its wearing a R55 , so dont know what the problem is there .
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gpaguy
OK. I looked at some of my other L & H lanterns and found this well used seized up, plugged up and bent R55 style gen.. But it has the style nut that I need. Can this generator be identified as to manufacture ?

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John
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SteveRetherford
none of your pic links work
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gpaguy
None of them ? OK, Let me try to fix em. I posted them on my lap top and can see them on my phone.


John
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SteveRetherford
bottom one looks agm to me , not coleman .

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gpaguy
Thanks Steve. That info. can be a start for me.


John
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SteveRetherford
i sure dont know all agm gennys , this shows one close but no cigar , but i see similarities ?

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SteveRetherford
i have a jar with a bunch of these nuts i just went thru , found a few longer than others but nothing as long as what you have pictured
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gpaguy
Trying to find this particular gen might be real difficult. I wonder if the bottom portion of a Coleman R55 could be modified. As in heat and remove that 1" section of tubing and swap nuts.. I would think silver solder to put it back together.


John
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SteveRetherford
a regular R55 fit my LandH so i dont get it .
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gpaguy
a regular R55 fit my LandH so i dont get it .


Steve. When I installed the Coleman R55 it threaded in just fine untill it ran out of threads and stopped. I grabbed the Gen. tube and it would still rotate and move up and down about 1/8" because the flared end of the gen tube wasn't tight against it's mating surface. If that flared end isn't tight sealed it's going to leak fuel like crazy. This model must be different than most  other L & H lanterns. It looks like the single mantle model 116 on Terrys site but this one is 2 mantle and I don't know the model #.  I have the model 116 here also and that's where I got that beat up gen. from in the Pic. above so these two models are similar in that they need this longer nut.


John
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Gavercronos
gpaguy wrote:
Trying to find this particular gen might be real difficult. I wonder if the bottom portion of a Coleman R55 could be modified. As in heat and remove that 1" section of tubing and swap nuts.. I would think silver solder to put it back together.

I should think it easier and safer to anneal the flare, pull the nut over it, put the replacement on, and re-flare it.
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gpaguy
Gavercronos wrote:

I should think it easier and safer to anneal the flare, pull the nut over it, put the replacement on, and re-flare it.


That's an idea but I see a problem with my flaring kit in that it needs some blank section of strait tubing for the clamp portion to mount and there isn't much space left with the nut in place. Unless it could be reflared roughly by hand in some other manor.


John
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SteveRetherford
is that generator even any good ? cut the nut off and use a new Q77 it wont clog or need a prick for a long time as the packing acts as a filter better than a R55 , an R55 doesnt really have any filtering capabilities ,
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Rfieldbuilds
Two mantle Lindo Lite that looks like a 116 is probably the 115.  
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gpaguy
Two mantle Lindo Lite that looks like a 116 is probably the 115.  


Thanks guys.
This is one of L&H black lanterns with no built in pricker so can't be 115. This model is not on Terry's site but looks just like 116.
Parts have been ordered and I hope to do a light up Wednesday evening.
My new Viton closed cell foam pip is working good now but I found my fuel valve stem is not completely shutting off, so here comes Timm's tinning technic. 


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Pancholoco1911
is that generator even any good ? cut the nut off and use a new Q77 it wont clog or need a prick for a long time as the packing acts as a filter better than a R55 , an R55 doesnt really have any filtering capabilities ,


They do have a tiny screen like the old generators. Maybe older r55’s had them integrated and newer productions I don’t think so 
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Chucker
You said you had what could be an original nut. What about slipping that over a Q77? Would eliminate the R55 issues. 

In using a Q77 I don't view that as being "stuck" with using it. Frankly, I prefer the looks of a Q77 on some lanterns, like my Slants. No more issues than if I were using a Q99. 
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JimL
>> I realize I could be stuck using a Q77.

Stuck?  I'm with others above.  The Q77 is nice.  You could use an R55, which will occasionally need the tip cleaned, or you'll wonder if it needs cleaning and will spin the tip cleaner.  Or, you could go maintenance free with the Q77.

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