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Recently I watched this youtube video that has completely changed the way I plan on using an ultrasonic cleaner.  If you havent watched it, I suggest a quick viewing as it is a really good idea that I never thought of before (you smarter peeps are likely already doing it this way)!



Question is this....if I put a generator in a gasoline bath (inside a jar like on the video) do I have to be concerned about the graphite packing?  I would prefer to not remove the graphite for obvious reasons but do you think it would be "damaged" or degraded by the process?  Same question for any cleaner used in the ultrasonic I guess.

Paul
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Gunhippie
I use the big 12 gallon, 1,500 Watt unit at the brewery. I don't want to risk contaminating it with anything, so I always put my parts in a plastic bucket with the ultrasonic filled with hot water. I use lye for most things.

I've destroyed a couple of graphite packings  this way, so I now remove them first. I don't think it's the lye, but rather the power of the US cleaner, as I've had no problems just soaking them in a hot lye solution.

If you're going to use gasoline for a solvent in the US, DO IT OUTSIDE! The ultrasound will cause the gas to vaporize even more readily, making for potentially deadly situation if anywhere near any source of ignition. Don't forget that gasoline fumes are much denser than air and will spread a long way on the floor.
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TwoCanoes
Thanks for posting this video.  I'd thought about doing that, but hadn't yet looked into whether it would work.  Can't wait to try it.  Like Timm said, UsC will damage graphite packing.  In fact, that's how I remove obstinate packing from nuts in which I'm replacing it.
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JimL
I can't imagine using gasoline in an ultrasonic cleaner, especially since it isn't really necessary, not to mention sounding dangerous.  The action of the ultrasonic will heat up the solution in the cleaner, even if it doesn't have a heating element.  I find I need no harsh chemicals.  Just a little Dawn dish washing liquid in the water works wonders on everything.  If I want to shine brass, I'll use a citric solution, but have to wipe with 0000 steel wool afterwards to remove the 'pink'.
 
 

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Good feedback.  Thanks guys.  Regarding the lye...what is your mixture ratio?  Also, did I read your post correctly that you put the lye solution into a container and then into the UsC? 
How long of a cycle do you use?  I also have use of a very large cleaner at work as we use it on gun parts and barrels.  I want to be able to bring a jar of several gennies to work and run it XX number of minutes over lunch!  

Paul
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sourgasjohn
I have one like the guy in the video has and I have been happy with it so far, about 3 years. These have 4 transducers and do a good job. My first ultrasonic was the 80 dollar Harbor Freight model. It still works, but slow, small and loud and only one transducer.  He has good info on what containers to use to get the most sonic action on your parts.
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Northman49
I'm not sure that gasoline would be ok in a plastic container. Some plastics dissolve in gas.
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I wouldn't use pump gas either, Diesel or Kero maybe.  

But as mentioned, lots of other options for de-greasers... 

This thread DID get me to pull out my USC and clean it out.  It's a 5 or 10 dollar PU at a yard sale.  One gallon, so not huge, but not small either.   Brand is Branson Instruments Inc. -  Lab grade I figure - it has a heater, as well.

I had stopped using it as it was a PITA to clean out, so except for hard to clean parts not wort it.  I never thought about   using a secondary container with whatever you wanted in that...  I'm thinking a rectangular plastic jug may be the ticket for an easy to clean/replace sub container.

Letting it clean itself now:

Ultrs Sonis Cleaner on.jpg 


And someone's Instructions:
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Northman49 wrote:
I'm not sure that gasoline would be ok in a plastic container. Some plastics dissolve in gas.


Yeah, thinking more on the subject, I think there are cleaners that will work as well or better and dont have the inherant dangers as pump gas.
outlawmws wrote:
I wouldn't use pump gas either, Diesel or Kero maybe.  

But as mentioned, lots of other options for de-greasers... 

This thread DID get me to pull out my USC and clean it out.  It's a 5 or 10 dollar PU at a yard sale.  One gallon, so not huge, but not small either.   Brand is Branson Instruments Inc. -  Lab grade I figure - it has a heater, as well.

I had stopped using it as it was a PITA to clean out, so except for hard to clean parts not wort it.  I never thought about   using a secondary container with whatever you wanted in that...  I'm thinking a rectangular plastic jug may be the ticket for an easy to clean/replace sub container.

Letting it clean itself now:

Ultrs Sonis Cleaner on.jpg 


And someone's Instructions:
Instructons.jpg 

 


That looks like a pretty good usc.  I am with ya...the cleaning out each time made it a pain in the butt.  Thats why I thought this guy on the video had such a great idea.

Paul
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rob_pontius
I have a Whaledent Biosonic machine. I use purple power in it. It works wonders on anything that I've used it for ( usually outboard engine carbs ). Clean out is easy too, it has a drain cock on the back of the unit.
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Gunhippie
Here's the unit I use, in action:

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That's most of a lantern in the lye solution after about 10 seconds. I usually give it between 30 minutes and an hour. I don't know what the shortest time is that would work, as I'm usually doing something else at the time and don't care much if I leave it in longer than necessary.

I use about 1/4 cup of liquid lye per gallon of very hot water. Don't really need to measure, as too little takes longer and too much don't hurt anything if you don't get it on you.

Painted parts will come out completely stripped. Aluminum parts--think direction disk--will largely go away, so keep them out. Never let glass, porcelain or nice nickel-plated parts touch anything but the plastic bucket or they will be etched from the US action buzzing them together. Don't put plastic valve wheels in the lye, either, as they will come out dulled beyond recovery, and fiber wheels will delaminate.

After the lye solution, I rise well then give all parts except vents a good buzz in a solution of about 10% phosphoric acid (citric, oxalic or acetic will work well, too). Vents will be permanently dulled/fogged by the acid (any acid!), so keep them out. A buzz of about 10 seconds in the acid will have bare brass parts just turning pink, then it's time to pull them and rinse. It's amazing how much more crud comes off the parts in the acid after the lye!
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