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Need to replace the packing on my QL 327.  It's gotten very tight and "gummy".  I don't think just adding teflon cord to it will address the issue, but want to hear feedback.
I've got a packing that I bought from Mike some time back, but I am unable to remove the retaining ring from the shaft.  I've got the pin out and the ring is currently hung up on the hole.  I'm very nervous about using any steel tools on it, so hoping someone has some good tricks.
Lastly , I've also read back that these packings are/were too long and need to be sanded. Is this still the case?
Thanks in advance.
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Gand28
If you have the pin out, that’s the hard part! You have a little rust on the shaft or ring holding it up. Take a micro torch and heat the ring briefly. Grip it with needle nose pliers and turn the shaft and pull. 

Yes you may have to shorten the packing. They are brittle. 
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ecblanks
Thanks, Greg, I'll give that a try.  How much do they usually need to be shortened, and how will I know if it does(prior to assembling the ping and all back)?
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I don't have a micro torch, just a propane, so I'm probably heating too much of it.  But the needle nose are definitely helping though I am boogering up the ring a little (it shouldn't matter?).  It's moving a little, about a milimeter a minute but at least I'm past the pin-hole now.  This is going to be a challenge getting it back on as well, but at least I'll be able to polish the shaft.
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Got it off.  what I should have done in advance was polish the shaft below the ring. I finally did that for the remaining half inch of shaft and it went much quicker.  The steel ring scarred the brass shaft a good bit, but it's below where the nut/packing will be so it shouldn't matter. 
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SteveRetherford
if you try n cut it will likely break , just use a hand file works good to shorten it if needed . i really like the teflon tape from OCP , make it any size you want .
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Chucker
if you try n cut it will likely break , just use a hand file works good to shorten it if needed . i really like the teflon tape from OCP , make it any size you want .


Do you mean "graphite tape"? I don't see any Teflon at OCP's. 
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ecblanks

Searching through the archives I had read references to teflon tape acquired at hardware stores, and the graphite tape that Mike sells.

I got my packing filed down, ring is fitting smoothly over the shaft and pin reinserted.  Only problem now is I did booger up the outside of the ring and it won't slide into the valve body, so now I have to smooth it out and then I'll be done.

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Gand28
I think Steve meant the graphite ribbon that OCP sells.  

It must have been pretty bad to work that hard to get it off.  But a little emery cloth should take the burs off the outside of the ring.  Put it on the shaft or a small rod and spin it around as you clean the outside up.

As for cutting a packing, I put them on an old shaft and work around, scoring with a sharp utility blade.  I have luck doing that with out breaking them.

Show us the finished product, Carlton!
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zoomkat
You might be able to cut the hard graphite packing using a cutoff disk on a small rotary tool.
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SteveRetherford
ya , brain fart !!! i like the graphite tape !!! i was just waking up :-)
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ecblanks
Gand28 wrote:
I think Steve meant the graphite ribbon that OCP sells.  

It must have been pretty bad to work that hard to get it off.  But a little emery cloth should take the burs off the outside of the ring.  Put it on the shaft or a small rod and spin it around as you clean the outside up.

As for cutting a packing, I put them on an old shaft and work around, scoring with a sharp utility blade.  I have luck doing that with out breaking them.

Show us the finished product, Carlton!

Yeah it was very tough to get off.  Slipped quite a few times and even cramped my wrist once.  Steel wool made all that effort go away.  Sometimes the simplest things...
I just used a file as Steve suggested.  Only took a couple of minutes.
I would post a pic but it's already back together. Doubt you want to see a picture of a valve wheel, as pretty as it is.  I'll light it up tonight and maybe post a money shot.  
Carlton - 9/73
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SteveRetherford
being steel sometimes those rings get rusted up making em hard to get off , a little heat n quench will usually work but then i soak in citric and steel wool till clean . it needs to slide easily on the shaft when you put it back together .
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ecblanks
Ah what the heck, it's not like it's 90 degrees out...
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Carlton - 9/73
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ecblanks
Somewhat interesting/humorous side note:
I keep a set of craftsman combo wrenches hanging on my fettle bench for quick access.  Up until today I thought that all generator nuts "swelled" a little under the heat cause my 7/16 never really fit them, unless I used the box side when able to get at it from above, so I also keep a small adjustable on my table for gen nuts.
This assembled 327 didn't really allow me to get the adjustable on the valve nut for removal, so I had to use my 7/16. Got it on there but it boogered the nickel finish pretty good.  So upon reassembly I couldn't find my 7/16 (left it on the porch), so I grabbed another 7/16 from my tool chest and lo and behold it fit perfectly.  

Sometime I just ain't too bright 😃
Carlton - 9/73
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