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Gunhippie
We've discussed this here several times: Can you glue a cracked globe? What to use? Will it hold? Can it take the heat?

I have this globe that encountered a snowdrift while lit and hot:

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So I decided to document the repair.

I've used a cyanoacrylate glue--Superglue of similar--in the past, so I'll go with it again. Water-thin is what you want, as the glue needs to be thin enough to get drawn into the crack by capillary action.

First, get the globe clean, clean, clean. Any oils or greases in the crack will prevent the glue from being drawn in. This is a problem with this globe, as the crack happened a couple of years ago. The repair will work best if the crack is fresh.

I did this Christmas day, so I had to use what I had on hand, and my glue was old and not as thin as I prefer.

Here's the globe with fresh glue:

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As you can see, the glue is not drawing into the crack very well. In the past, I've had the glue so completely fill the crack that it almost disappeared.

I let the globe sit overnight, used a razor blade to scrape off the excess, then put the globe on the lantern (an AGM 3016, so plenty hot) and lit it.

This is after two hours running:

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After a full fount on the 3016:

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No discoloration at all!

While it doesn't look like the crack has been filled, the globe now rings when tapped. Before the repair, it didn't.

So, clean globe, fresh crack. New water-thin superglue. Let dry, scrape clean. YMMV.

And keep those lit lanterns out of snowdrifts!
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Barrett
Looks simple enough for simple me to try, I'll give it a crack on my horizontally cracked 339 globe.
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mikew
Thanks for the info, Timm.  Have a couple of cracked ones to try this on.
Mike
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rob_pontius
Hey Timm. I've used this method myself with decent results. Do you have any experience with the glue that's made specifically for glass? I haven't had the chance to try it out thankfully.
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hhampo
i glued a sears globe cracked into two pieces. overrun glue turned opaque pinkish but works fine. havent tried to scrape off the excess.
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Chucker
Your method has been my method as well Timm. One variation could be the use of "high temp" super glue ("Hyper bond"?). I haven't tried that one yet.
Chuck
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Gunhippie
rob_pontius wrote:
Hey Timm. I've used this method myself with decent results. Do you have any experience with the glue that's made specifically for glass? I haven't had the chance to try it out thankfully.


Cyanoacrylate glues were developed by Eastman Kodak for gluing lens elements together. They were originally made for gluing glass, and have a diffraction index very close to that of most glasses.

Now I need to try it for an actual repair, where there is a chunk of glass broken out, instead of just a crack. I've done this for electric light globes and shades, but never yet a GPA globe.
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BSAGuy
Science marches on.  Thanks for the information, Timm.
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rob_pontius
Thanks for the info Timm. I had no idea that it's origins we're glass lenses. I learned something new yet again. I guess I won't spend money on the stuff that loctite sells for glass.
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scl
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Gunhippie
scl wrote:
lucky, my globes have missing pieces when they crack.


Majority of the globes I've broken have been in a thousand tiny bits. Not so good for repair. I need to find just one with a chunk broken out to test.

At the pub, we have art-deco electric light shades from the '30s. Repro shades, which don't quite match, run about $80+ship. These shades are eggshell thin and will break if you look at them in the wrong way. Hence I've become adept at gluing them back together.
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outlawmws
Nice job documenting the fix Timm!  I've glued a couple,  No issues as yet...
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ecblanks
I picked up a 242C with a thumb sized/shaped chunk missing out of it.  Fortunately the chunk was stil included. I used loc-tite glass glue, which is probably the same thing as regular cyan but they got me.  Anyway, added glue and it fit like a puzzle piece. I didn't run it a whole bunch, maybe and hour or two total, and it held just fine.  
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A pre heat cup?? in 242C
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1hpycmpr

I found this 355 globe on a 139 lamp.  The loose chunk of glass was taped in place and the other chunk was missing altogether resulting in a very jagged edge of glass.  I removed the tape and glued the chunk into place and covered the empty space with aluminum tape.  It has been holding up with lots of use on my camp lamp.  Looks like chit but it is hidden by the lamp shade.  I figured I will use it until it breaks some more and eventually falls of the globe holder!
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papa
One of the two 220J lanterns I found last week has a broken globe but the piece is there. I believe I'll try gluing it.


Update... I disassembled the 220J today to clean it up and get it burning again.Here's the globe before and after. I didn't have any thin Superglue on hand. What I did have was actually gel but I carefully spread the crack enough to get the glue on the edge and put a bead of glue on the edge where the loose piece fit back. I  will not let it sit for 24 hours at least and check on it. 20200111_231343.jpg  
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I realize it doesn't show in the pic but the crack is on the LH side as the globe sits in the pic and runs fro top to bottom. The rubber band holds it together, keeping the crack closed up under a little pressure.
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I personally use Gorilla Super Glue as they have excellent adhesion to glass on variety of surfaces. But you should do your own research on glues for glass and this can help -   https://chemicalwiki.com/best-glue-for-glass/ . Btw, a good quality sili (neutral cure) is really tough stuff and bonds well too.
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