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Phredd
I just picked up a 413D and while fettling it I found that the pricker rod is much different compared to any of the 425s that I have. The rod is thicker and has a removable pricker at the end. And the rod does not screw out of the valve stem.  It spins but does not come out.  Thus I am thinking that the replacement generators for 413s that you can buy will not work with this stove?



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I was looking at the parts diagram for the 413 D (on OCP site) and it clearly shows that the E and F had different generators and valves from the C and D. The E/F generators have the small removable pricker in the end.  So I think my 413D has a valve and generator from a 413E?  Maybe it was made during the transition from D to E?  It has a 413D case and a red tank - so maybe the whole thing is a big frankie.

https://www.oldcolemanparts.com/diagrams/413CDEF.jpg

The figure also shows the needle assembly (part number 413A2511) as being detached from the valve.  So mine is maybe stripped and stuck - or maybe they just need to be yanked out (which i am not going to do).  

Anyone run into this problem before?

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StanDahl
The 1955 catalog 32A (found on the ICCC site) shows that the D and E have a different generator, but it isn't very specific. I would consider taking my D and an E apart to compare, but it's about 123° in my garage right now. 
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Phredd
Yes. same in the parts diagram. C and D have dif generator from E and F. So no need to battle the heat.

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StanDahl
I went out and took apart a bunch of stoves. That removable tip is an older feature, I found it on two 413C's, a 413D and a 426. (I didn't feel like pulling down a 413B.) I guess I've never had the occasion to take one apart before. Two early 413E's I looked at had the later tip cleaner. So the 413D generator is different because (as you point out) that rod with the removable tip is fatter than the later one, and the later one won't screw into the 413D valve.  

My other 426 has a replacement generator without the hex on it, so I can't get it off of the valve to see what it looks like inside.
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Phredd
Thanks for the info

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ecblanks
Hey Phredd, if you end up needing a new generator send me a PM; I've got a carded one.  It's the "later" style (but not for H)
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Phredd
The stove works fine. The "problem" is the rusty case.  What is different about the H? 

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ecblanks
H uses a skinnier gen
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