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knad254clear
Looking for any opinions on if you should pre-burn or not and if so what is the best way to do it?

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Murff
Best way is to follow the directions on the mantle packaging.

IMHO, I pre-burn and wait for all burning to stop before lighting.

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BigLew
Yes, with a match or lighter. Then let them rest 5 minutes to cool off then light lantern normaly. Once lit, allow lantern to operate a 1/2 hour or longer to finish seasoning the mantle.
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MantleMidget
Yes, IMO you should always pre-burn followed by a burn-in as BigLew suggests.
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titan14
Most definitely pre-burn...but...I am going to be a little off the norm here...
I have good luck this way and it may be wrong, but it works for me...
I light the mantle with a wooden match that is burning at least half way down (i.e. half of the match is on fire) this gives a "full" flame to the bottom of the mantle...this results in an "even" burn all the way to the top of the mantle...
Just when the mantle(s) start to go out....I crack the valve...the pressure seems to make the mantles "fill out" (expand to their maximum). Most times there is enough flame to light the lantern...if not...strike another match.

Bill
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Fortykin

I noticed that the instructions on my Peerless mantles say to light them on the lantern, allowing the pressure of the vaporised fuel to help fill out the mantles.

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shortwave
Following a tip I found here a few months ago, I spray on some alcohol first, then light them. I've had no holes appear in the mantles, and they burn off evenly too.
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Gasman64
BigLew wrote:
Yes, with a match or lighter. Then let them rest 5 minutes to cool off then light lantern normaly. Once lit, allow lantern to operate a 1/2 hour or longer to finish seasoning the mantle.

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sksdoktor
I pre burn on CF lanterns, but for Kero the pre heater does the job for me

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curtludwig
I don't think it really matters, everybody has their own magic process.
I like to use a propane torch which I can move all over the mantle and get it good and burnt quickly. I usually light it right up once its done or mostly done burning off. I don't worry too much about it either way and I tend to have very few problems. I'll chalk it up to my carefree attitude
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MantleMidget
My sentiments exactly!
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MotorcycleDan

I also burn mine in with a small torch, but let it cool 10 or 15 min. Light it up and let it burn for at least a half hour. Never a hole in Coleman #21's. When I relight, I put the flame on the generator between the mantles with a long shaft lighter and turn on the fuel. Again, never a hole in Coleman #21's.

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jayhawk
Not to upset the apple cart, but....I used to camp a lot more when my kids were little (15-20 years ago) and the only lantern I had was a propane with the igniter. I never used to pre-burn the mantles. Just tied them on, hit the gas and the igniter. I didn't know any better then. I don't remember ever having to change a mantle because of a hole. Now that I do a pre-burn, I have to change out about 50% due to holes. Like I said, the other method was 15-20 years ago and the mantles may have been tougher then and maybe the propane lantern was lower pressure when lighting.
Kevin
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kb5zfa
Kevin I some times do it that way can't tell any difference only faster.
Any way I do it I have had verry few develop holes guess I have been lucky and got good ones.
Joe

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BigLew
A big advantage to pre burning is that when you do it the globe and vent are off. But those who don't pre burn usually re assemble the lantern before lighting. Then the smoke from the burn off soots up the globe and vent. So pre burning keeps it cleaner.
I saw the light, no more darkness, no more night. - H. Williams Sr.
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jtstj
Torch em.. it allows you to "control" the mantel.  You can manipulate the direction that the mantle will sit when ashed.  This IMO is important if you have a 214 .. finicky little Kero, but if you get the mantel close enough to the generator, it runs like a charm.

John
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knad254clear

Thanks everyone for their help. I will try this very soon and see what happens.

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oldflame
It seems with the variety of experience and opinion BigLew makes a valid point, and clean globes can make a noticeable difference in brightness.

Jayhawk, I wonder if small amounts of water turned to steam while the unburned mantles were still intact and stronger?  Once burned, bursts of steam from condensation may blast holes through the weaker ash mantles.

I've taken other's suggestion of first lighting the bare burner, to heat things up to drive off any water, and check the flame before installing new mantles.  So far I haven't gotten the holes in new mantles I once got.
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JimDouglasJr

This was just discussed in the last week in another topic.
It seems there's a likely advantage into using fuel on the initial burn. Less loss of the mantle components as opposed to burning the mantle alone.
Testing confirmed a slightly stronger mantle.

I ran the same test again yesterday on mt canadian red 220.  same thing.

The mantle burned alone was weaker versus the one burned with fuel.
Mantles from the same package.

Kyle. Kaptain Kamplite - America's Finest Lantern Fettler.
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campmaster
i think what jim is saying applies to the new ytrium junk coleman mantles.
 I was going to post exactly this scenario.

The new coleman mantles were designed with impatient people in mind, also the same people who are clueless in todays society and likely putting them on something propane.
 I find with new coleman mantles you just tie em on and light em.
 Done they work as they should. The old burn off technique and instructions does NOT apply to these. Thus the reason there are no instructions with them.

Old silk lites are a different story. They were designed and built in a time when people had patience. Hence the "triple lock weave" and instructions on how to burn them in and then light them.

I have not tried the "just light it" technique with peerless, as i am so happy with how mine form that i will continue to enjoy nostalgia and light my peerless with a match and burn them in slow as though i am still in the 40s or 50s. Just like i got used to doing with the huge stash of silkys i was eating away at.
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JimDouglasJr
It's a touchscreen world now, for sure.

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HRydarcik
I just light 'em with a match...let them burn til they're white, then fire up the lantern.
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JamesLDrury3409
My Dad swore that using the gas to burn in the mantles filled them out and made them stronger and burn brighter, he never lost a silk lite that way to holes, he would just crack the valve with the lantern top and globe removed - then using a long match light a kabob stick and light the mantles from between the two and then move the flame to the bottom of each mantle to make sure they caught fully. After they had burned all the material he would close the valve and reassemble the lantern and then relight and it was like a nuke went off it was so bright. (of course we are talking vintage mantles here)

Jim
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hammer_off
At the Great Lakes gathering, I was tieing on some mantles and Pat Ring (a recently retired long time Coleman sales person) was amazed that I actually tied square knots.  He said that Coleman always told them that once the mantles were burned the string didn't matter.   I haven't tied a mantle on since then, but I am going to try it without doing the knot thing.
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skiroule71
I tested it. I personally found that not preburning it did much better, didn't loose one mantle. The one I preburned not so much. I used about 100 Coleman mantles, I had bought a box of them and split it 50/50. You can do what you want though.

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campmaster
peerless for life. Newer coleman = JUNK.
 I light my peerless and let them burn and cool. 5 mins total.
 Then I fire up the piece. I get nice round mantles that are tough as nails.
 When i tie them on and just fire the lantern right up.. they shrink to about half the size.
 So i save that for pieces that seem to want less mantle. 
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Dave
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sourgasjohn
Like Curt and MantleMidget I just burn them off real good with a torch, set the globe on and leave it outside for awhile til it quits smoking (I don't like breathing the smoke) then light it up. The Peerless seem to fill just fine. As many others have stated Peerless rules and they are cheaper than most others, i think I pay less than 55 bucks for a box of 100.
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