200A and 202 reproduction
frames back
in stock.
Kmot
I bought a 525M off CL. It looked nice, but I am clueless. When I got it home I tried to turn the wick knob and it is frozen solid. I stuck a WD40 nozzle inside the tank and tried to aim it on the shaft for the wick control. I have no idea how it comes apart or what to do. 

Help! [smile]

[helpNEW]
~Tom~

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Pull burner cap/flame spread off, it turns clockwise a quarter turn and lift. There is the wick, on the side is slots and cogged wheel. Soak everything with lube. The adjuster is just a simple shaft with a cogged wheel on the business end, often rusts in the tube the shaft runs in. Lube, time, heat, tap tap on shaft/knob, don't force. You may be able to pull up on wick and help everything move.
  Neat old heaters, you'll like it. Take your time, you do not want to damage font, font is worth more than heater....

Keith
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Rocinron
The wick may be stuck to the tube, which can be freed by running a thin piece piece of metal ,hacksaw blade works well in this case, all around the wick and tube.

Do not force anything, and do not heat up the fount too hot, since they are soft soldered.

If you can get the heat spreader assembly unscrewed from the fount, it will be a lot easier.
Ron
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Deanofid
Tom, see this page and its various links before you do anything;
Miles Stair Perfection Pages.
Stuck Wick.

He sells wicks for them, too. 
What the other guys said;  Don't force the wick raiser knob.
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Kmot
Thanks fella's!! [smile]

[sSig_youtheman]
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Kmot
The hack saw did the trick! Took a while, and lots of 'plunges' but it worked. Thanks for the excellent tip Rociniron! [smile]

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Lots of rust 'glue'

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Evapo-Rust in the fount now, taking care of the rust a bit.

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Deanofid
Glad you got it out, Tom.  Looks like a new wick will be a good idea.  They are
pretty reasonably priced, and a new one will have the nice even top needed
for a good burning heater.

The fount looks good.  Can we see the heater, or do we have to wait until
you have it cleaned better than new?  [wink]
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Rocinron
Glad the tip worked for you. The old wick does not look too bad, I would not discard it just yet.
Ron
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Kmot
Here is the photo from the listing Dean. I have not taken my own photos yet. Well, I should have tried the wick before I bought it, I would have tried to talk the guy down on his price. He listed it as "wick goes up and down easily" which was a bold faced lie.

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Kmot
I'm still working on getting the rust out of the fount and off of the flame spreaders. My jug of Evapo-Rust seems to have been worked enough to neutralize it.

I did get some photos though. I also noticed a dent I had not seen before. It's possible I dented it myself. The metal body seems very thin. One other thing I noticed is that the color is an exact match for my Sears stove.

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Chucker
Tom, you're dead on with the color match. Not sure what to make of that.

You will want to take care of ALL the rust ASAP. Nothing like heat to ruin your kero dreams.
Chuck
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Kmot
Chuck, does heat and rust make a bad combination? Or in other words, does heat exacerbate the rusting? Accelerate the process or something?

What can I do about such a large area? I obviously cannot soak it in a can of Evapo-Rust.
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Kmot
Well, I lit it up today out on the patio and let 'er rip for about an hour. [biggrin]


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mcdugal2
Should be a bright yellow flame....
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thezman
The font needs to be either in the heater or elevated off the ground for it to burn properly.
It needs to draw air up through the center of the font for the right fuel/air combo.

And as Phil said, the flame should be yellow.
I'm Larry most of the time.
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Chucker
Tom, I recently bought a Perfection 590 Firelight which has a steel plate across the bottom inside and was VERY rusty.

I decided I didn't want to soak something that big so...I attached a wire wheel to my drill and wheeled most of the rust out. I used steel wool for the nooks and cranny's. I then hit it with Engine Enamel Black paint - it's good to 500 deg.F and is gas/oil resistant.

She's been running in my living room with my wife's approval!
Chuck
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OldCampingStuff
Kmot wrote:
What can I do about such a large area? I obviously cannot soak it in a can of Evapo-Rust.
You should take a couple minutes to read the directions on the Evapo-Rust bottle. [wink]
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Kmot
I did. Paper towels and plastic wrap. I don't like that idea. [wink]

It has a bright yellow flame when it's in the heater body. I only lit it for a minute outside and snapped the photo. [wink]

I like the idea of the wire wheel. I am going to do something similar. [wink]

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Majicwrench

In the pic of it burning in the heater, flame looks good.

Let me know how long it takes to deal with that rust, know a Firelite with that kind of rust that I may end up owning.
Keith
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Kmot
Well, I lit it up inside the den tonight. It really warmed up the den nicely, and that was even with a glass sliding door open 6", and then 12" for ventilation. But it stunk too much, and burned the nostrils slightly. However, I do not think it was the kerosene but rather fumes from the paint. Not really certain, but in any case I had to take it outside after about 30 minutes.

Once outside, it provided nice warmth while I worked at my patio table in the cold wind.

The pattern of light cast on the ceiling was an unexpected surprise! 

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Deanofid
Neat design on the ceiling, Tom.
The smell could be the paint, like you say.  It appears to be scorched in your pictures,
but I didn't notice that in your pre-burning shots.  Maybe the previous owner sprayed
it with decorator paint instead of high heat stuff?

Another thing it could be is if the wick is not nice and even on the top.  If it has a
scraggly top, it can make a smell.  A new wick or good used one is flat as a board on
the top of the weave.
The smell can also come from some of the holes in the burner being plugged, or having
little fuzzys stuck to them.  Not letting a full air flow reach the flame.
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Majicwrench
What he said. Did you use a new wick?? Cheap. I have three of those and very little odor from em. Try it again after paint set up good. And when I first saw that blue paint, I thought "that can't be original" and again, what he said, might not be high temp paint.
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many of the older ones were blue porcelain , this one doesnt look very old , i think i have a similar one , and its like blued not paint . looks like someone added the blue to me here ?
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Kmot
Since purchasing this heater, I have been doing more research (something I should have done beforehand!) and I now think this is a late model 525M, the last of the series made before the Perfection Co. went out of business. I also believe it was repainted by one of its former users, and I also think it was subjected to a flooded basement or garage. There is a defined line of very heavy rust from the top to about 1/3rd down, meaning it was stored upside-down and sat in water. The rest of the heater body is rusty inside and I think that was from moisture in the air. The bottom and the legs are not in bad shape.

I also realize I got hosed on the price of this thing. That's what I get for being an uneducated newbie. 

The one saving grace is that the fount is in very good condition, and I have learned the founts are more important and more valuable than the heater bodies. It cleaned up nicely and is solid.

Knowing what I know now, I want to get an early 525 with the grate window on the side of the heater body and the fount with the fuel gauge and not just a cork float. I suppose I could just use my fount and look for a 525 fuel gauge.

I am thinking of cutting those long screws and separating the body so that I can do a good job of brushing out the rust, stripping the blue paint and then re-painting it with a correct type of heat paint. I can machine my own screws if I cannot locate original type replacements.
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Majicwrench
You didn' get hosed. The fonts sell for that much on the Bay.

BUT  I just noticed, in the CL ad the heater is black, you have a blue one. Now I am confused.

All of mine have cork floats they work fine.
Keith
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Kmot
Might be your monitor. It's blue and black in the CL ad, just not as bright as my photos.
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UncleFred
"I am thinking of cutting those long screws and separating the body so that I can do a good job of brushing out the rust."

I had a heater that had a lot of rust like yours has.  I used pb blaster on the nuts on the bottom of the long bolts, then held the bolts with a vise grip and was able to get the nuts off, I think with a nut driver.  Used stainless nuts when I reassembled.
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Chucker
Heat often works to undo those bolts/nuts. 

I wouldn't buy an entirely new 525 just to get the 'dial' style fuel gauge (unless you need one LOL). My 525 had more holes than a cheap dike. I purchased a tank/font from an on-line auction with the same characteristics as the original.  
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Kmot
deanofid wrote:

The smell could be the paint, like you say.  It appears to be scorched in your pictures,
but I didn't notice that in your pre-burning shots. 


Yes, it's definitely scorched now. I do not think this heater was ever lit after it was spray painted. I know it was spray painted because there is overspray on the handles.

I have now seen color ad's for Perfection heaters and some of them came with blue porcelain on the body. Whoever had this one before tried to fake that. Strangely, it is exact match to my old Sears stove. But it burns.

 
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Deanofid
Tom, I'll bet when you strip that spray paint off and put in a new wick that you'll
have a good clean running heater. 
I use my 750 Perfection in the house, and as long as the wick is straight and flat
on top, and the wick raiser pushes the wick up evenly, it makes very little odor.
It runs for hours before I can finally detect any smell.  By then the house is hot
anyway.
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oldairmech
Tom
Now that you know what you have it's still a great heater. I got one late last year and it was "blued" like Steve mentioned. I took it apart and media blasted the rusty parts and repainted with high temp header spray paint and grill paint, I even did the the long screws & nuts that hold it together.
Here is the before shot.


The after picture.


Money shot.


Good luck and get all that old paint off and do it how you want.
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Kmot
Hi Lem, fantastic looking resto you did! You have inspired me for sure. [smile]

Does the heater body have anything inside that double wall? Something has come loose in mine and I can hear it roll around when I tip the heater. I need to get it apart so I can knock out those dents.
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Weirdnerd
Those perfections are nice, I found one in way worst shape last year, the fount was toast, the rust was like something from the titanic, etc, after spending quite a bit of time and money (had to buy another fount) I used bead blasting to remove the rust and old paint, and Rustoleum high heat paint (1200 degree) here are some pictures, now I use it quite often in the garage, and has kept me comfy even under the last cold spell when it went down to zero, now I understand my grand parents, they had two and they loved them.





Money shot with a Coleman kero in the back ground.

Can't sleep, squirrels will eat me....

If you need a Sun Flame Generator Model 100-107 ( for Sunflame lanterns models 105, 106, 107 and 110) give me a PM, I have close to 80 of those, 15 bucks each.


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Kmot
UncleFred wrote:
"I am thinking of cutting those long screws and separating the body so that I can do a good job of brushing out the rust."

I had a heater that had a lot of rust like yours has.  I used pb blaster on the nuts on the bottom of the long bolts, then held the bolts with a vise grip and was able to get the nuts off, I think with a nut driver.  Used stainless nuts when I reassembled.


Thanks for the tip Uncle Fred! I used a pair of long nose Vise Grips and was able to back the nuts off. So now the heater is completely disassembled.

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Chucker
Wow Tom, go get that rust! You are over half way to the finish line man!
Chuck
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Kmot
The resto started today. I bought an 8" wire wheel to put on my 8" buffer motor. Dang it, the arbor hole was too small to fit. 5/8" and my arbor is 3/4" Foiled again!

Well, not completely. I have a 6" bench grinder inside my workshop. I could fit the wire wheel on that one. So I moved the machine outside and clamped it down to one of my work tables. The 6" bench grinder was made in 1986 and is only rated 1/2 HP. So it put a real heavy load on it running this 8" wire wheel and trying to get some work out of it. It ran okay for awhile but then the heat got to the motor and it kept stalling. So I had to lighten up the pressure which just made it take longer to get the job done. I did as much as I could on the inside but it was difficult to reach all of it because the arbor on this grinder is very short. I used a small wheel on my drill motor to finish the underside. But I got all of the top side okay with the big wheel. Total time, one hour and fifteen minutes of wire wheeling just for the top cap of the heater!

I swear I could see it flash rusting in front of my eyes, so I quickly painted it. [biggrin]

Flat black BBQ paint on the underside and gloss black engine paint on the outside. 

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Kind of like taking slices from a pie, lol...

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This is the most I could get with the big wheel.

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Got the rest with the drill motor and wheel.

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Lots more to do!

Yeah there is, but it's going to look soooo good, Tom!
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Kmot
Thanks Dean, I hope so! [smile]
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Rocinron
Looking good so far !
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Chucker
SWEET! You're in the groove now.
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Kmot
Thanks fella's!

I started on the 'skirt' (?) this morning - don't know what it is actually called. My poor little 6" bench grinder would not even start on its own, I had to turn the wheel to get it going. It was slow going and this is what I was able to get done before the little guy just decided it was time to retire:

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I was thinking I would have to go buy another wire wheel, one with a 3/4" hole for the arbor on my larger buffer motor. But I decided to try something, and I tried drilling the bushing in the wire wheel. Well lucky me, the bushing came apart and that left me with several pieces that only needed slight enlarging to fit on my 8" motor:

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Yeah, what a diff power makes. Now we were cookin'! [biggrin]

The big motor took a lot more of the rust off and in a hurry too.

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Then I finished it up in the nooks and crannies with the 4" wheel on my drill motor:

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Then I primed top and bottom:

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Then painted it gloss black with Rustoleum:

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Next I started on the body/pipe, and used the big wheel to scrub off the rust on the outside. I also went over the paint too, but since the body/pipe is thin and flimsy I did not want to put too much pressure on it and so I will have to finish sanding by hand:

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Last for today I took the wire wheel on the drill motor to the inside of the body/tube. Good Lord, the rust dust cloud it created!! Holy mackerel! Well when I was done all of the loose rust was scrubbed off. Some deep rusty pits were still there but really nothing more I could do.

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So then I painted the inside with Rustoleum BBQ paint:

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brucesheehe
Great JOB!
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Chucker
Never had to tear one that far down before; thanks for the tutorial!
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Kmot
Thanks, and you are welcome. [smile]

Okay I got the body/tube painted today. It is Dupli-Color engine enamel so it should be good for the heat. All that is left now is the base/legs.

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Kmot
Preview. [smile]

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Chucker
WOW Tom, that thing just popped with those colors - and  all that work! That will be a heater to last you the rest of your life if  you keep it. Good effort!

And yes I'm a little jealous of the Cali weather you have -- painting outside and all.
Chuck
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Kmot
Thanks Chuck! [smile]

Actually, we had some desperately needed drizzle today. It was threatening when I was painting. Later I moved it under the patio cover where you see it. It started to drop some moisture even tonight. We could use some REAL rain! 

I showed it to my wife and she said "oh, that's pretty" so I am in like Flynn, heh-heh. [biggrin]

She is looking forward to it getting completed so that we can heat up our den and watch TV in it again. 
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Kmot
Back at it! Between bad weather for painting, and other things keeping me busy I had not touched this project for a couple of weeks.

Today I sanded the base, primed it, and shot the first color coat. My can of paint I need to finish it, was supposed to arrive yesterday. But the severe weather in the Midwest has delayed UPS shipments. I ran out of the blue putting on the first coat.

Anyway, it was over 90°F yesterday, may not even need the heater anymore until next winter. [rolleyes]

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offrink
Looks really good! Now I know what to look forward to when I find one.
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That's a gorgeous shade of blue.....
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