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Leviticus Tomethreus
     So, I’ve been working on repainting a lantern for sometime now, and I just threw a coat of primer on last night. Now, I understand that your supposed to wet sand the primer, I just don’t exactly know what to look for when doing that.
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Chucker
I never wet sand my GPA's Levi. Careful with primer as it can fill in stamping on the side of some founts. 

Someone who does wet sand will be along shortly. 

Coleman didn't even use primer.  I use paint that is at least twice as good as what Coleman put on most of their lanterns and stoves. We especially have much better high temp paints than were available back then. Heck, clear engine enamel makes your paint 100% better even without primer.

I'm not poo-pooing primer, I just don't see a need for it on most of my stuff.  
Chuck
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Leviticus Tomethreus
Hmm, I’m painting a 220f. Not sure if it has a stamp but it shouldn’t matter because it is just for display in a man cave.
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10/25, and 8/07

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Leviticus Tomethreus
Smudge wrote:
I've never wet sanded any primer, but I not much of a perfectionist either. Be sure to read the paint instructions for re- coat times.


Hmm, it seems like there won’t be many that wet sand primer here. I was just going with what my dad said, because well, I’ve never painted a car or anything really.
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10/25, and 8/07

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Tgarner01
Unless your going for perfect gloss finish there is no need to wet sand between coats. I spray every coat and let dry the old fashion way. Then stick it back together. They always turn out better than Coleman factory paint.
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Leviticus Tomethreus
     Ok, so what do you do about stuff you missed during prep, bondo that wasn’t perfect, a tiny pinhole. Do you just sand put more bondo and try again?
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10/25, and 8/07

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Tgarner01
Yes, if you are using Bondo, you will want to feather your edges like you were painting a car or it will show
Toby Garner
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Leviticus Tomethreus
Well, yeah, but I have primer on, and there’s imperfections. What should I do. Sand down the primer then bondo, bondo with primer and sand smooth?
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Looking for bday lanterns 8/38, 8/41, 
10/25, and 8/07

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Tgarner01
Yes, feather out whatever is there, get a smooth surface first then prime over it. I'm not pretending to be a body man... To be honest I hate the process... But I have done my fair share of it. If you have small waves on your surface you can use filler primer and block it out, but it's best to get close to begin with.
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Whitegas Extraordinaire
There’s primer and sandable primer which is typically “high build”. High build primer works better for filling any pitting etc.
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Leviticus Tomethreus

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    Alright, I’d say that’s smooth enough for me, but I’m going to try to fill that pinhole with bondo.

 

My friends don’t call me “Lantern/lampie Levi”
for nothin’,if they did call me that.

Looking for bday lanterns 8/38, 8/41, 
10/25, and 8/07

The biggest lie I tell myself is
”I don’t need to write that down, I’ll remember it.”
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clifforddward
Be aware if you use Bondo or some other filler then you will want a primer before finish paint topcoat...otherwise the filler is likely to show.
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JimL
>> I’m going to try to fill that pinhole with bondo.

What pinhole?  A hole in the primer/body filler?  Or a pinhole in the fount?  If in the fount, drill a big hole in it so no one in the future thinks it will be safe to run it.  

I'm thinking you mean a pinhole in the fount, but having an AGM where a PO used bondo to attempt a stress crack repair, I think it's worth asking.

-Jim

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MotorcycleDan
I very gently wet sand my primer with 2000 grit wet/dry automotive sand paper. Just enough to take the rough feel out of the primer when I run my fingers over it. I get a better gloss on the color coat sanding the primer than not sanding. 

As others have said, you don't have to, but it is just something I do to get a high gloss paint job. 
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Leviticus Tomethreus

JimL wrote:
>> I’m going to try to fill that pinhole with bondo.

What pinhole?  A hole in the primer/body filler?  Or a pinhole in the fount?  If in the fount, drill a big hole in it so no one in the future thinks it will be safe to run it.  

I'm thinking you mean a pinhole in the fount, but having an AGM where a PO used bondo to attempt a stress crack repair, I think it's worth asking.


     Yes, in the fount. There’s an itty bitty pinhole towards the left side of the fount on that lip. I painted some base coat on yesterday, but it was really rough, so I wet sanded smooth and I’m gonna try again today.

My friends don’t call me “Lantern/lampie Levi”
for nothin’,if they did call me that.

Looking for bday lanterns 8/38, 8/41, 
10/25, and 8/07

The biggest lie I tell myself is
”I don’t need to write that down, I’ll remember it.”
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Leviticus Tomethreus
I’d say for a first paint job, it’s not too bad.
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My friends don’t call me “Lantern/lampie Levi”
for nothin’,if they did call me that.

Looking for bday lanterns 8/38, 8/41, 
10/25, and 8/07

The biggest lie I tell myself is
”I don’t need to write that down, I’ll remember it.”
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D421
Levi
I think that looks pretty darn good. I get better at painting every time I do it. It looks like you have done good on this one.
One thing I need to say regarding the pin hole. From post #4 I get the idea that you know not to run a lantern with a pin hole in the fount and intend to just make a nice looking display lantern.  If the fount does have a pin hole it would be smart to drill a hole in the bottom to ensure no one else will ever try and use it. Just cool to look at maybe with some of those LED lights.
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Leviticus Tomethreus
@D421 the guy I’m giving this too knows about this issues. There was a gigantic rust hole and the got filled with bondo. He also has some really nice drill bits and I don’t so he can drill a hole in the bottom.
My friends don’t call me “Lantern/lampie Levi”
for nothin’,if they did call me that.

Looking for bday lanterns 8/38, 8/41, 
10/25, and 8/07

The biggest lie I tell myself is
”I don’t need to write that down, I’ll remember it.”
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D421
Great Levi I figured you knew what to do. Just don't want anyone hurt.
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74HARLEY
That is a really nice job Levi! 
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Mister Wilson
That looks really good Levi.  For future reference, if you're using bondo and you have a little pinhole, crater, etc. you can use spot putty or spot glaze.  It comes in a tube kinda like toothpaste.  You spread a little on to fill the void, let it dry, sand it, spot prime it and you're good to go.  
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Leviticus Tomethreus
That looks really good Levi.  For future reference, if you're using bondo and you have a little pinhole, crater, etc. you can use spot putty or spot glaze.  It comes in a tube kinda like toothpaste.  You spread a little on to fill the void, let it dry, sand it, spot prime it and you're good to go.  


     Yeah I saw that at Lowe’s but I don’t plan on painting all that much.
My friends don’t call me “Lantern/lampie Levi”
for nothin’,if they did call me that.

Looking for bday lanterns 8/38, 8/41, 
10/25, and 8/07

The biggest lie I tell myself is
”I don’t need to write that down, I’ll remember it.”
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D421
Levi
Do you know the trick of using a coffee can lid etc. To keep from scratching your nice paint when putting it back together? Sure save a lot of bad words.
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Leviticus Tomethreus
D421 wrote:
Levi
Do you know the trick of using a coffee can lid etc. To keep from scratching your nice paint when putting it back together? Sure save a lot of bad words.


     Yes, I’m an excited subscriber to the old town Coleman YouTube channel now. I, however do not have a coffee can, so I’ll stick with YouTube’s King Coleman’s idea, parchment paper.
My friends don’t call me “Lantern/lampie Levi”
for nothin’,if they did call me that.

Looking for bday lanterns 8/38, 8/41, 
10/25, and 8/07

The biggest lie I tell myself is
”I don’t need to write that down, I’ll remember it.”
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D421
Perfect. 
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Leviticus Tomethreus
I am truly proud of myself with this one. The first restoration where I went through everything and cleaned it all up. It’s a shame that it won’t ever put out light again.😭
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My friends don’t call me “Lantern/lampie Levi”
for nothin’,if they did call me that.

Looking for bday lanterns 8/38, 8/41, 
10/25, and 8/07

The biggest lie I tell myself is
”I don’t need to write that down, I’ll remember it.”
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Bob1774
Looks great, especially for a first time attempt.  Ditto on not making a lantern "look," safe to use.  There are epoxies to use inside the fount if you have a fount worth saving and not common.

As for painting techniques, a wine cork fills the pump tube tightly for spraying.  Heating the rattle can in very hot, not boiling, water will make it spray more evenly, and a final rub out with Mother's will give it a very similar factory satin look and feel if you want one, but wait until completely dry.

If trying to match vintage hues of green or red, I had some luck spraying the "color just a bit too dark," first to get a good base.  On the final coat while still wet, mist with the "color just a bit to bright," and you can obtain your own tones very inexpensively.  Practicing on empty tin cans or a 1 lb. propane bottle is helpful.  I try to find a practice subject I want painted a Colemanish color anyway, so not wasted time or paint!
Here is a link to that thread.  This one was for a 50's 228E.  the second link for was using the same technique to match a 200a hue of red.  YMMV!  Have fun.

https://www.colemancollectorsforum.com/post/update-thanks-for-the-lack-of-interest-8196128?pid=1293006128

https://www.colemancollectorsforum.com/post/5-200a-repaint-8262330?pid=1293598051
Bob
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Leviticus Tomethreus
@Bob1774 thanks and what does ditto and YMMV mean? I know about the cork thing but this wasn’t much of an issue on this lantern and I’m gonna have to go through a lot to get a wine cork. My uncle does have a large wine production thing in his basement though. I’ll call him.
My friends don’t call me “Lantern/lampie Levi”
for nothin’,if they did call me that.

Looking for bday lanterns 8/38, 8/41, 
10/25, and 8/07

The biggest lie I tell myself is
”I don’t need to write that down, I’ll remember it.”
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12057dave
For a first attempt I’d say ya did a great job Levi. Good way to practice when it comes time for a user resto. 

Dave                                                       BernzOmatic Appreciation Club #1957

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Bob1774

Levi,
"Ditto," is common to mean "the same thing, or copy that."  Since quotation or "ditto," marks are used to quote someone, it implies you are using the same answer or logic, or more precisely, quoting a previous suggestion.

YMMV, was created with the use of texting, as shorthand for "your mileage may vary," meaning you may not get the same results.

Bob
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BSAGuy
That's very nicely done, Levi.  Treat yourself to a cold beverage (non-alcoholic of course in light of your age!) to celebrate.  I see a BSA patrol cook kit large pot and frying pan/pot lid in the background there.
- Courtenay
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Leviticus Tomethreus
Ahhhh yes. That kit was my grandpas and is now dedicated to citric acid baths on the 425 nl. I think I have most of the kit. I have the smaller pot and lid, and the smaller pan. I also have the thing that goes in the percolator but my mom says the percolator fell in a off the boat 40 years ago never to be found again.
My friends don’t call me “Lantern/lampie Levi”
for nothin’,if they did call me that.

Looking for bday lanterns 8/38, 8/41, 
10/25, and 8/07

The biggest lie I tell myself is
”I don’t need to write that down, I’ll remember it.”
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BSAGuy
Those were sold by the BSA through the mid-2000's, I believe.  Apparently they have been discontinued.  Here is a graphic of what should be in it.  The internal percolator (coffee pot) contents are not shown.  The kit had pots plus 4 plastic cups and 4 aluminum plates in addition to the pots and pans.
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- Courtenay
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