200A and 202 reproduction
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Ridge Runner
I felt bad for this little bugger so I brought it in earlier this year to give it a good home. It's a Canadian 247 Scout dated 6-'48. It's going to need some love and it has a few dingers, but over all I think it has potential. This was my first "dual-fuel" so I'm really looking forward to getting it shaped up and running.

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It also has some engraved markings on the bottom. I posted a question about them here earlier on and it was agreed that they were crew marks for the CNR; Canadian National Railway. I really like most any railroad paraphernalia so these just increased the cool factor!

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The globe is a replacement, marked Made in England. I believe the original would have been a green sunrise over Made in USA. The vent shows its age from years on the job, but really not too bad for a kero-burner. I already swapped the vent nut 'cause the original was really chewed up and siezed to the vent stud. The vent came off via unscrewing the stud from the burner.

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Collar has the tri-lingual lighting instructions.

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Frame appears correct with the flat base plate and dimples. Oh, and plenty of soot.

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I'm guessing this has been apart a few times already, the valve is screwed waaay in and the clocking is still a bit off. Looks like it has been over tightned by more than two full turns.

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Uh oh, somethings up here. Pretty sure this aint right! The gas tip is marked with a "6" and the guts are definitely gas genny guts...hmmm. A nickel plated nut holds the genny in place.

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OK, valve out. Thankfully it's the right one; straight pick-up. Somewhere, sometime, someone just put the wrong genny on this lil guy, phew! The stem packing nut is also nickel plated under all the dirt and grease.

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With the valve out I was able to get some light in the fount and grab an image of the dried gunk on the bottom. Not too bad, all things considered. Should tidy up just fine.

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Time to break out the elbow grease and get all the bits cleaned up. More to come...

— L.J.
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I love the smell of naphtha in the morning!
"Ain’t no need to watch where I’m goin’; just need to know where I’ve been" -Tow Mater

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Tgarner01
Look forward to the finished product L.J. have fun!
Toby Garner
ICCC #1939
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Ridge Runner

Got some pieces cleaned up and planned on getting this little guy back together.

However, after de-greasing the fount I uncovered this gap where the valve bung is soldered in.

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Probably should have stopped there and did a pressure test. But my OCD to get the nickel and brass all shiny took over.

I was soaping up the packing nut and as the drips landed on the fount they began to grow into bubbles. Arghhh...

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So, I guess this is why you’re supposed to pressure test the fount before shining it all up...

Back to the drawing board.

— L.J.
Looking for 10/2015 & 1/2020 B-Day Lanterns
I love the smell of naphtha in the morning!
"Ain’t no need to watch where I’m goin’; just need to know where I’ve been" -Tow Mater

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Tgarner01
L.J. that's an easy solder job... You can do it ðŸ‘
Toby Garner
ICCC #1939
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Ridge Runner
For gosh sake Toby; I'm an electrician, not a doctor...er, plumber...how did McCoy say it again? We'll see, this is going to be a first for me to bring flame and solder to a fount.

So, usually I toss the brass bits into my gallon of carb-and-parts cleaner for a while and the crud comes off easy with no pinking. Well, this defiant preheat cup is proving otherwise. I think they must have used creosote or roofing tar to preheat with. It was left in for two days and the cleaner barely put a dent in it.

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I've never mixed up a lye solution, but I have been using Easy-Off oven cleaner here-and-there. I blasted this p-cup and after about 20 minutes almost all the crud wiped right off with a paper towel. I'm amazed how well it tackles this nastiness. Should have just done that in the first place.

Much better now!

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When I pressure tested the fount and discovered the leak I also noticed the fuel valve wasn't sealing completely. A little bubble kept forming at the gas tip of the genny. 

A while back Timm posted about tinning the end of a valve stem to fill in the groove from over-tightening them. I've successfully performed a few of those now so this one received the same treatment to (hopefully) correct the leak.

Got a little goopy with the solder, oops!

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And after dressing it up a bit.

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Now I guess I'll have to get to the fount next...  Ã°Å¸ËœÂ¬

— L.J.
Looking for 10/2015 & 1/2020 B-Day Lanterns
I love the smell of naphtha in the morning!
"Ain’t no need to watch where I’m goin’; just need to know where I’ve been" -Tow Mater

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Chucker
Keep going L.J., looks good. 
Chuck
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Kgam1020
Lookin good L.J. You got this far. You will shine that scout up nice and shiny. Can't wait to see her running.  
Ken.
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Tgarner01
You'll get it L.J. keep it up and you'll be making fire in no time.... Controlled fire that is!
Toby Garner
ICCC #1939
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Ridge Runner
Thanks for the support, fellas!

Wish I knew how something like that happened. I mean, it was leaking slow enough that I could get it to build decent pressure. I just can’t imagine actually running the lantern like that. I dunno...

— L.J.
Looking for 10/2015 & 1/2020 B-Day Lanterns
I love the smell of naphtha in the morning!
"Ain’t no need to watch where I’m goin’; just need to know where I’ve been" -Tow Mater

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Tgarner01
L.J. I was looking back over your pictures. I'm betting when the valve was overtightened that of course made the stud for the frame lower as well. So I'm thinking a PO overtightened the frame nut pulling up hard enough on the top of the fount to crack the solder joint? I have had this on 242s in the past where it actually pulled the top of the fount up inside the collar a bit... No broken solder joints for me, but it's definitely possible... Just a thought. 
Toby Garner
ICCC #1939
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Ridge Runner
OK, here's a (little) better pic of the spot in question. After really cleaning it out, now it almost looks like the original solder melted out?? Kinda weird.

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Two things that still bothered me were the valve sitting so low in the bung and correct clocking was still a bit of an issue.

While everything was apart again I thought maybe I'd tin the threads of the valve to build up the diameter then re-thread. However, I was nervous of causing a problem with the solder joint on the pick-up tube; so I switched gears a little. Since I was going to solder the fount anyway, I ultimately thought it would be best to tin the female threads of the bung instead. Here goes...

To keep my project from literally coming apart at the seams, I filled the fount mostly-full with water and wrapped the top of the pump tube with a wet rag. All the points where solder would be applied were well-cleaned and fluxed. The solder I used was 95/5 because, well, it's what I have on hand!

After some heating, testing and heating the fitting the solder flowed into the gap and settled in. I also twirled it around in the threads to build up a good thickness of material to work with for tapping.

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Might have been a better job if the solder was smaller in diameter, but I'm not looking to hide anything and it's under the collar anyhow.

An 1/8-27 NPT tap made easy work of cutting the threads. I repeatedly checked the valve fitment to make sure I didn't cut too deep. Once it seemed to be right I cleaned everything up and flushed the fount with DNA...again...

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I was shooting for center of the collar opening, or more ideally, just a little high. This should work.

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The valve stem is back in with a new packing now. As long as this all passes the (second ÃƒÆ’ƒÆ’°Å¸â„¢â€ž) leak test I think it'll finally be on the road to making some light.

— L.J.
Looking for 10/2015 & 1/2020 B-Day Lanterns
I love the smell of naphtha in the morning!
"Ain’t no need to watch where I’m goin’; just need to know where I’ve been" -Tow Mater

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Pancholoco1911
Awesome 👏 job and very well documented.  Please keep us posted!
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Kgam1020
Nice repair L.J. Looks like you hit it spot on. 
Ken.
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Tgarner01
Looking good for an electrician! ðŸ˜ Look forward to the light up L.J.
Toby Garner
ICCC #1939
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Ridge Runner
Thanks!

This certainly went a different direction than I originally expected. Wouldn't have made it this far though without all the resources here on the CCF. 

— L.J.
Looking for 10/2015 & 1/2020 B-Day Lanterns
I love the smell of naphtha in the morning!
"Ain’t no need to watch where I’m goin’; just need to know where I’ve been" -Tow Mater

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