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Gunhippie
Seeing as our only seating at the pub is outdoors for the foreseeable future, we'd like to add a few propane firepits.

Since we're a brewery, the solution seem obvious:

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Cutting the top and ring off a keg and inverting it makes for a nice bowl. I'd like to install a ring burner and glass, cut a door in the side of the keg to hide the propane tank and have the control wheel sticking out of the side of the keg for easy adjustment.

ID of the "bowl" is 14 5/8", depth at center is 2". I could cut the top off lower to give it a few inches of sidewall.

Has anyone made anything like this? How do I size the burner ring? Anything else I need to know?

TIA!
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Vintageish
If you can accept heating aluminum....
For hunting blinds those old cast iron single burner stoves enclosed in a self built steel box work tolerably well.
The first order of concern is being sure the orifice is small enough. (Propane sized vs larger natural gas sized).

Defending patrons from a triggered relief valve would be a concern too.
It's a rare occasion one lets off , but sure a lot of propane released when one does. I used to fill them so it's something that sticks with me. More so if seeing a tank in an enclosed area...
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Gunhippie
Vint: Beer kegs are 314L stainless steel. Have been for a very long time. Don't know why heating aluminum would be a problem, though.

Modern propane tanks have an Overfill Protection Device in the valve to prevent that venting. Venting was caused by insufficient headspace, especially when filling on a cold day and using in a heated area.
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wfo21
Kegs are stainless.
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Vintageish
Alright guys , slap me now!  L.o.l..
And I can't even use the excuse of never having handled a keg, or several...

Not promoting this brand. But just giving an idea of what type burner I referred to.. They turn up in variations at yard sales ect. If experimenting with one holds any interest.
Reducing height /size of keg would likely factor in how a burner performs ,  besides B.T.U.s.

Thanks on the new propane valve design update.

https://www.agrisupply.com/carolina-cooker-single-burner-cast-iron-stove/p/56913/?sid=asf10&eid=Easf10&zmam=77232640&zmas=1&zmac=1&zmap=56913&eid=gl020116&sid=google&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI59Ku_uy-6gIVEtbACh1A_gneEAQYAiABEgIlHvD_BwE

Purty colors. Well , cept'n maybe that brown when it's on fire...
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D421
Look at the web site for American Fire Glass. Either to buy or get ideas.
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Gunhippie
Thanks!

I'll be talking to AFG today. Not the cheapest stuff out there, but looks to be well made.

I've run into the confusion of kegs being aluminum far too often. Years ago, I made a woodstove from a keg.

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I had dozens of warnings about how the aluminum would melt with the heat. For a test fire, I melted a beer bottle on top of the stove. It's fine and still keeping the warming hut at the local ski area warm.

I think that most folks see a silver metal and think "aluminum". Even the Guide makes this mistake--several stoves are described as having aluminum handles and legs--those are galvanized steel.
It's priceless until someone puts a price on it.
Walk a mile in a man's shoes before you criticize him--then you're a mile away, and he has no shoes.
Texan's last words: "Y'all--hold my beer--I wanta' try sumptin'."
Timm--Middle of nowhere, near the end of the road, Oregon.
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bowenstudios
Timm,
I've never made a propane fire pit but I do have some experience making some big burners that may help. I school I made a 4ft square vacuume table and needed a way of heating big sheets of plastic. Through some internet magic I stumbled on homemade bbq burners. I made 4 foot long burners out of 1 inch black iron. For mine I tacked all 4 together and used the big horizontal wet saw we had to notch them about 1/4" deep every inch, for a smaller burner a hacksaw or cutoff wheel would work. Then i used a cap on each end with a 1/8" npt brass needle valve to control gas flow. This was for natural gas. If you are just looking for fire and not as concerned about the most efficient heat output orifice may not matter. Although with propane too fast of flow will of course freeze the tank, unless its liquid injection. We've also made propane venturi burners with 1/2 and 3/4 inch pipe, a reducer on the back side and a needle valve coming into the side. 
Hope this helps in some way, and cat wait to set the finished product
-Mike
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Gunhippie
@bowenstudios

Do you still have that vacuum forming set-up? I could use some new tubs and trays for my SB coolers.

My father had one in the basement that would go up to 4X8'. That thing was fun and handy. Ours used electric coils for the heat and mom's Eureka for the vacuum.
It's priceless until someone puts a price on it.
Walk a mile in a man's shoes before you criticize him--then you're a mile away, and he has no shoes.
Texan's last words: "Y'all--hold my beer--I wanta' try sumptin'."
Timm--Middle of nowhere, near the end of the road, Oregon.
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TwoCanoes
From your initial post, it sounds like TG may be thinking of this fire pit issue as a temporary measure 'till the pandemic is fixed.  I suggest that you think of the fire pits as a long-term feature of the pub.  Back in my hiking and rafting days, I stopped in at the pub just about every time I went through Enterprise.  Loved the outdoor seating in outdoor-seating weather, and would always have preferred outdoor seating at a fire pit over being in the restaurant during the colder times of the year.  Just a thought.
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Gunhippie
That's the plan! We'll have some hard piped to a large tank and some with portable tanks.

Here's what I'm now looking at:

https://www.amazon.com/Stanbroil-Stainless-Steel-Burner-13-Inch/dp/B01M0K8X13/ref=pd_di_v2_sccai_4/138-4027801-2739612?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B01M0K8X13&pd_rd_r=9b5e226f-db85-4920-813f-d7959311092d&pd_rd_w=Nqkhe&pd_rd_wg=9f68s&pf_rd_p=47579771-02b9-4db9-aad8-9d98476f87cf&pf_rd_r=XJXGG6XV8KEA54M8XQZ0&psc=1&refRID=XJXGG6XV8KEA54M8XQZ0

Cut out the inside of the top of the keg and just drop that burner in.
It's priceless until someone puts a price on it.
Walk a mile in a man's shoes before you criticize him--then you're a mile away, and he has no shoes.
Texan's last words: "Y'all--hold my beer--I wanta' try sumptin'."
Timm--Middle of nowhere, near the end of the road, Oregon.
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bowenstudios
Gunhippie wrote:
@bowenstudios

Do you still have that vacuum forming set-up? I could use some new tubs and trays for my SB coolers.

My father had one in the basement that would go up to 4X8'. That thing was fun and handy. Ours used electric coils for the heat and mom's Eureka for the vacuum.


I bet the insurance company would sure like that one from amazon more than my home-brew setup. 
I would love to have access to a vacuum form that big! why did your dad have it? was he making signs or just liked to play? I still have a small one I built where I just use the oven to heat up the plastic in a frame. the big one was not great, electric would have been easier in hind site, and probably more even heat. it was an experiment set up outside in this huge fram. I was way too ambitious with my 22 inch draw and 30 inch diameter, using thin lexan and acrylic sheet from a sign company. I will try and dig out images.
Is SB steel belt coolers? I never thought about reproducing parts for those, that wouldn't be too hard at all.
-Mike
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The Coleman Blue's 243's #154
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Gunhippie
I think there'd be a market for them. Especially the big tub. I use mine to hold my ice and it keeps the water out of my food. The tub of my 56 qt Steel Belted will hold a large block and a bag-and-a-half if cocktail ice. Until it cracks and starts leaking, that is. I'm on the second tub for that cooler since I bough it back in the early '80s.

Stewart--If you want ti sit outside at the pub in the coll weather, I do have a very nice KookLite that you can sit between your feet. Got it from a really good guy!
It's priceless until someone puts a price on it.
Walk a mile in a man's shoes before you criticize him--then you're a mile away, and he has no shoes.
Texan's last words: "Y'all--hold my beer--I wanta' try sumptin'."
Timm--Middle of nowhere, near the end of the road, Oregon.
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MartyJ
I passed on a small diamond logo cooler because the plastic was bad.  A large vacuum set up would Be handy but I wouldn’t use it enough to be worthwhile. 
Marty
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Gunhippie
I looked at the American Fire Glass site. I'm partial to buying US made, but at ten times the price....
It's priceless until someone puts a price on it.
Walk a mile in a man's shoes before you criticize him--then you're a mile away, and he has no shoes.
Texan's last words: "Y'all--hold my beer--I wanta' try sumptin'."
Timm--Middle of nowhere, near the end of the road, Oregon.
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