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outlawmws
Dan was correct!  I just got off the phone with the campground staff -

The Campground IS open (concession run) but the park for staffing of NP rangers and services has none.  Entrance to the park is free until the Gov gets funded and restarted.

Download and bring maps - none are available.
No garbage service
No Fires or Charcoal BBQs (the fire thing is NOT clear;  one place states no fires, another says ONLY in the campground rings...  Assume no fires.

So I think the Pinnacles CG is a go!

[Logo%20Outlaw-half]  Coleman Blue's 243's #341


“A Human Being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, give orders, take orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook  a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly.  Specialization is for insects.”            - Lazarus Long


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MartyJ
Thanks for checking, I was hoping so. It is a nice place and was hoping to go there. Might drive out to the BLM land on the way out as I always like to have future options.
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Rfieldbuilds
outlawmws wrote:
Dan was correct!  I just got off the phone with the campground staff -

The Campground IS open (concession run) but the park for staffing of NP rangers and services has none.  Entrance to the park is free until the Gov gets funded and restarted.

Download and bring maps - none are available.
No garbage service
No Fires or Charcoal BBQs (the fire thing is NOT clear;  one place states no fires, another says ONLY in the campground rings...  Assume no fires.

So I think the Pinnacles CG is a go!




Great news on the follow up Outlaw. Very cool! I’m getting excited.
Randy

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outlawmws
NP Randy, Me too!  We may get some rain if the storm rolling in lasts...   Its hard to tell as the Gov shutdown has the satellite imagery available from the GOES weather satellite being a bit iffy and a day old, and the weather guessers never have it right...   The 10 day guess, er, forecast has a window of no rain...

I have all the parts and tools collected up for the 24275 now.  (needed a reamer) including whats needed for shortening the pickup.  The only part I  won't be doing in camp will be cleaning the burner assembly.  I'm making sure I have any other odd tools to make this one happen.  

I'll volunteer my canopy area for fettling duty;  - Better especially if it is raining (fully enclosed, may be a bit entertaining to setup if it's raining constant...  Hoping there isn't a lot of wind)
[Logo%20Outlaw-half]  Coleman Blue's 243's #341


“A Human Being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, give orders, take orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook  a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly.  Specialization is for insects.”            - Lazarus Long


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kf6ivi
Ok, I picked up site 63. 

I will be coming up on Saturday and stay until Monday.  I was unable to get Friday off work.

I will have my daughter with me. we will be tent camping [wink]

See you all then.

Ethan

ps if want to send me  a list for birthday lantern I would be happy to look and see if i have it.  I have a  bunch of 220's that need a new home.

i will be bringing a few other gems to find new homes for.

Ethan iccc # 921
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Rfieldbuilds
Awesome!

I nned a 8/69 bday lantern. Let me know if you find one. I have one, but the dang thing is unfired and I havent had occassion to spark it yet.
Randy

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outlawmws
I may have a second project:  A reflector!  I saw one that hinged off the bail and I liked that.  I think I have what I need to make that happen. It won't have the "searchlight handle", but it should work...  (I may think about how to make the handle work also...)
[Logo%20Outlaw-half]  Coleman Blue's 243's #341


“A Human Being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, give orders, take orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook  a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly.  Specialization is for insects.”            - Lazarus Long


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outlawmws
And an update on my buddy,; he will be there sat AM and spending the night, probably in my setup.
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“A Human Being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, give orders, take orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook  a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly.  Specialization is for insects.”            - Lazarus Long


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Rfieldbuilds
I have a buddy who may be there Sat night and Do a little hike on Sunday before we go. I will actually be surprised if he does the 3 hour drive for only one night but ya never know. Last night he said he was into it.
Randy

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kf6ivi
Well; my work now has decided that I will work on Saturday.  So i am going to miss out on the camp out.
got to make the money [wink]

Ethan
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kurtruk
kf6ivi wrote:
Well; my work now has decided that I will work on Saturday.  So i am going to miss out on the camp out.
got to make the money [wink]

Ethan


Dang. I was looking forward to meeting you.  Oh so many years ago, I was the one that picked up the Traveling Lantern at your house, but didn't get to meet you.  I don't travel over to the Central Coast any more for work.
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hikerduane
One of my friends that I snow camped with the last two days was at Pinnacles a week ago, he was told they will be closing the Park. Better check.
Duane
Duane-All seasons, year round backpacker and camper.  So many stoves who's counting.
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outlawmws
Duane,  was he there before the shutdown?

I will call again and verify with the people that run the camp sites.

[Logo%20Outlaw-half]  Coleman Blue's 243's #341


“A Human Being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, give orders, take orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook  a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly.  Specialization is for insects.”            - Lazarus Long


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hikerduane
He was there Dec 29, 30. Maybe it doesn't cover private concerns, just Park area, facilities. He also told me was a awesome place to visit, guess I'll have to go sometime.
Duane
Duane-All seasons, year round backpacker and camper.  So many stoves who's counting.
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Rfieldbuilds
The website says park is closed except to those with camping reaervations. We are good.
Randy

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cannonball191
Now I'm in 63. See you there.
Matt
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Rfieldbuilds
Matt,
Thats good news pal!
Randy

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outlawmws
These are most of what I'm bringing for projects.  There may be one more lantern if I get it in time...

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The round reflector I'm converting to a shade extension had a "reflective" plastic coating that was a PITA to get off,  I had to use how water to soften the glue, and then it would peel off, Barely  it took three sessions, to get it dome...  Sore thumb three times...

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[Logo%20Outlaw-half]  Coleman Blue's 243's #341


“A Human Being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, give orders, take orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook  a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly.  Specialization is for insects.”            - Lazarus Long


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kurtruk
If I drive over from the Central Valley for the day on Saturday, will they let me in without a camping reservation?  Wondering if I can be registered at the gate as a guest of one of you that is camping?

Thanks.
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cannonball191
Just say you’re with me.
Matt Ford site 63
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kurtruk
cannonball191 wrote:
Just say you’re with me.
Matt Ford site 63


Thanks!
If you think you should say something at the gate:
Kurt Zellman
Brown Nissan Frontier pickup.
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kurtruk
Anybody interested in owning this Cabin stove hot plate, model 395?

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I'll bring it to the gathering.






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outlawmws
I might be.  Let me take a look when we get there...
[Logo%20Outlaw-half]  Coleman Blue's 243's #341


“A Human Being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, give orders, take orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook  a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly.  Specialization is for insects.”            - Lazarus Long


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outlawmws
All packed except for the cold food and a final pre-trip shower!

Weather guessers say rain this afternoon,  all night, dry Sat, through about Sunday Noon.  We shall see!
[Logo%20Outlaw-half]  Coleman Blue's 243's #341


“A Human Being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, give orders, take orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook  a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly.  Specialization is for insects.”            - Lazarus Long


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Linus Tremaine
Outlaw is at the pinnacles. We can get in to the camp but he says you must have a physical copy of your reservation to prove you are paid. I can barely hear him - i assume the web system is not working. 

Bring firewood if you have room!

L

A venturesome minority will always be eager to set off on their own, and no obstacles should be placed in their path; let them take risks, for godsake, let them get lost, sunburnt, stranded, drowned, eaten by bears, buried alive under avalanches - that is the right and privilege of any free American

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Rfieldbuilds


Linus paid for this site for me. But it is for the site we will share.

Cheers

Dave, Eel. If you need a copy you can use mine to get in. Show them the pic below. I am now assuming there is cell service for you to get this. Click image for larger version - Name: 8945A5FC-1367-485B-8888-5DBD66AC2D54.jpeg, Views: 111, Size: 23.76 KB
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kurtruk
I don't have a smart phone, or reservation.  Hopefully if I tell them Site 63, with Matt Ford, that'll get me in...?

Otherwise, a long drive for nothin...
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Eel
'Twas a long drive for nothing.

EEL Eclectic Lanterns, div.  Doofenshmirtz-EEL Incorporated.

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kurtruk
Eel wrote:
'Twas a long drive for nothing.


Uh oh.  Is Eel stating his experience?  Or commenting on my concern?
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Eel
Stating experience, experienced at 9pm Friday night.

EEL Eclectic Lanterns, div.  Doofenshmirtz-EEL Incorporated.

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outlawmws
Eel. They had you blocked at 9pm?  I thought they were no longer manning the stop point after dark? 

Others made it with, in  one case, a phone copy.

A great time for all who made it. more later after I process the pics.
[Logo%20Outlaw-half]  Coleman Blue's 243's #341


“A Human Being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, give orders, take orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook  a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly.  Specialization is for insects.”            - Lazarus Long


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Linus Tremaine
There is a folding chair in my truck that is not mine and that I didnt put there. Anyone know who it might belong to?


L

A venturesome minority will always be eager to set off on their own, and no obstacles should be placed in their path; let them take risks, for godsake, let them get lost, sunburnt, stranded, drowned, eaten by bears, buried alive under avalanches - that is the right and privilege of any free American

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outlawmws
That's odd,  Was anyone else in your camp besides me on Friday?  Mostly we were in my camp or Randy's.
[Logo%20Outlaw-half]  Coleman Blue's 243's #341


“A Human Being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, give orders, take orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook  a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly.  Specialization is for insects.”            - Lazarus Long


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MartyJ
Not mine, I would have noticed a vacant spot in the Jeep and filled it with fuel cans. Had a great time and appreciated the education. I will post some pics when not surrounded by grandchildren.
Marty
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kurtruk
The chair's not mine, either.

I had a great time with you guys!

Let's see some pictures.
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outlawmws
OK, some pics and some of what happened at Pinnacles from my perspective:


I got there about 1:30 Friday, and the place is closed with an armed and body armored park ranger turning almost everyone back.  With proof of reservations I was allowed in to the camp sites only;  the rest of the park was closed...

I had a TINY scrap of cell signal and called Linus and asked him to post and make sure everyone was aware they needed "papers".  I called about 5 times lost the signal all 5 times, then texted. I  also texted my friend to reiterate to bring that paper copy!  (I had told him before and forwarded my confirmation Emails...

I setup my trailer, the popup and the canopy tarp support frame and got it all buttoned up with its wall tarps well before the rain started.  When Marty got there I was pretty well setup.

Marty got there next and I walked over and we talked and I helped a little for getting his Baker half Tent and pop up canopy setup.

Linus rolled in and I helped him a bit with his tent.  

Then it started raining!  there had been a few sprinkles here and there during the second and third setups.  We ate separately then congregated in my canopy just to talk and stay warm  (three lanterns and three guys in about a 15 x 15 area (with 5X7 taken by the trailer and car top tent) gets comfortable!

Randy was late, and we went over during a lull in the rain and helped him setup his ez-up pop up, and I think I suggested we move it over the table and he could sleep there.  After a few "homeless" comments, we did it.  

Talked a while then we moved back to my place where it was warm and dry!

I probably should have been taking pics of all this but I didn't...  (anyone else take camp site pics?)


The next day after everyone was up and Randy had unloaded most of his truck we fettled lanterns and a stove or two, and Randy setup some display tables.  

I DID take some pics on Saturday!  Not all of this may be in chronological order...


Some of the display tables - Almost al was Randy's stuff:

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This was after Kurt got there for the day, one or two are Kurt's and I think the 243 was Linus's  Al had cans!  All were in incredible shape!  So I took a "Family" shot.

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Randy brought these VERY rare birds!  he has a pair AND the original packing crate!  I'l let him tell the background story!
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This was an oven stove Kurt brought to show of and make us drool...
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But Matt, who got there last had this cute little KampKook N0. 3!  I loved it!

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Linus in the foreground listening for a leaky cap gasket while fettling.  We must have replaced eight or ten cap gaskets!  Randy is hiding in in the background.

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Kurt also brought this Coleman 395 "Hotplate" stove, and 
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This J/C Higgins (forgot yo take its pic up there )  and I bought both!  The stove fired up with just the replacement of the cap gasket and oiling up the pump leather.

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I had brought the parts to make my version of the "Picnic Table Frankie"  275 fount,  The rest was 242 (thanks again Greg!)  plus a railroad reflector that I had removed the plastic reflective coating from.

I reamed and tapped the tank upside down to try to keep the thread cuttings out of it.  this worked well!  I tapped slow, and I think it was pass 4 before a test fitting showed about 1-2 threads left hand tight.  



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The bushed fount - I measured the depth and had pre-measured the pickup tub to about where it seated in the bushing, adn I had maybe an eighth of an inch left un-seated,  I called that good!
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And The valve and burner frame mounted

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Pressure tested, filled, adn test fited without a mantle, the with!  Voila!  About as easy a frank as it gets!
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Shown with the reflector and bail on my camp table from "eye height:
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And without flash, and no glare from the mantle!  I like it!  I'll probably paint the fount red, and decide what decal it gets...

So it will finish as a 24275 "xmas" lantern! (Unless I ever latch onto an aluminum vent, which is what I'd like to have on it...)


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Other repair work:  Linus tangled with a "completely broken" AGM.  nothing he did would make the pump work (but a pump from another AGM worked...)  He finally found the problem!  The brass tube of the pump had split near the full length!  (sorry for the out of focus pic)  There is one split near hew whole length and there were two others shorter...  AGM brass...  what can you say?

So I was volunteered to try to solder it up!  (I was also the only one there with soldering supplies as I had anticipated needing to shorten the pickup tube on the 24275F (Frank)   I asked Linus to anneal the brass tube so it would have a fighting chance,  This after I had given the tube a vinegar soak, then again with the vinegar after annealing. 

I tried the two smaller cracks first and that seemed to work,  I also discovered I could wire brush it hot/molten and not leave mounds of solder that would not fit the pump retainer hole.  then I attacked the long one.  I made two passes, wire brushing after each one.   



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 I thought it was still leaking, and then Linus plugged the hole with some tape and the point of a loose valve screw and pronounced it sealed!  

Better post soldering pic.  (I also learned to trick the auto focus of the the camera.  you can pretty well see the crack and it sure doesn't LOOK soldered!

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Linus reassembling:
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And Victory!
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This was the "dinner prep" area "cleared" from the display/fettling area:

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[Logo%20Outlaw-half]  Coleman Blue's 243's #341


“A Human Being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, give orders, take orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook  a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly.  Specialization is for insects.”            - Lazarus Long


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cptuap
Outlaw, I think you will like that 395 Hotplate.  I restored one a few years ago and use it at my patio cook station all summer.  I like using the main burner for coffee and then to heat clean up water while the side burners heat the griddle I use for pancakes or just about anything else.  That large tank is a real bonus.   Looks like you guys had a decent time in spite of the rain.
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outlawmws
Thanks!  I'm looking forward to using the stove!

The ran stopped after Friday night early sat AM, and Sat was a nice day, if not sunny all day.  So overall it was a really nice weekend!  I caught a tiny bit of mist as I was buttoning up the Eagle's clamshell covers on Sunday about noon or 1 O'clock, but even that stopped before I got out of Dodge.  The only time I hate rain on a camping trip is during setup and during tear down...  The easier I can make that the better I like it!

Something I forgot to mention in any detail was Marty's Baker half tent, or camp fire tent.  I was REALLY impressed with that!  Something along those lines would be perfect for short weekend trips!  I love my tent cot, but you have no place to get out of the rain vertically...

I've been intrigued with the Whelen lean to tent for years, and Marty's Baker is very similar!  So while finding one or the other would be nice,  I'm expecting to have to make one to make it happen.  I used to have a huge old army canvas tarp that was shredded on one edge.  I wonder where it is?  it would probably make one up easily!

Another option is an old wall tent if I can find one with one side still good?  A new project to look into and forward to!


[Logo%20Outlaw-half]  Coleman Blue's 243's #341


“A Human Being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, give orders, take orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook  a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly.  Specialization is for insects.”            - Lazarus Long


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MartyJ
What a fun weekend with a great bunch of guys. Everybody was very helpful and if they minded as I looked over shoulders and watched repair techniques, nobody openly complained! I learned a lot on both lantern and stove repair and saw some amazing resurrections of lanterns I would have never attempted. I really appreciated the repair of my stove tank for my 3F by Linus who quickly undid my damage and put in the right part. I took it home and fired up the stove today and it runs like it is brand new. Not bad for a 75-80 year old stove. I will now have to look for a lantern that matches its age.

I wish I took more pictures but here are a few including my Baker tent that Outlaw mentioned. Also my 3F with repaired tank. Thanks again Outlaw for the help setting up camp before,the rain.
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outlawmws
I almost forgot; the Sunday morning Pack up find!

I was putting the stove away, and I found three acorns on the table...  Now the table was well under the canopy,  so they did NOT fall off a tree!

I found one more in the bed of the trailer under my setup car top tent platform and that was also under the  canopy, so again,  no way it was tree fall!

Saturday night I had found where some critter had pulled a baggie with three chicken bouillon cubs out of my day pack pouch ripped the corner open, taken a cube, and eaten it!  (the foil was left...)

So I guess this thief was trying to pay me back!  "barter"  4 acorns for a bouillon cube?   [sCo_idk]

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[Logo%20Outlaw-half]  Coleman Blue's 243's #341


“A Human Being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, give orders, take orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook  a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly.  Specialization is for insects.”            - Lazarus Long


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