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Coldwaterpaddler
I was out today at one of the local, familiar antique malls. In this one place that sells some farm-type crafts there was this lantern, or . . . most of a lantern. Immediately, I could see it was large for a single-mantle lantern and my first thought was, Oooo a kero lantern! Been looking for one of these. It was missing the globe, vent and preheat cup. Bummer. But the price was right so I thought I'd bring it home. The only kero lantern I've ever had is an Aida, so, totally unfamiliar with these. It's a 237A.

Below are a few photos.

First, there is no date on this thing (side or bottom), but the fuel cap, assuming it is original, seems like the 1930s-1940s type. So, I'm wondering if this is the early model. No idea. Does anybody have a way to tell the old ones from the 1960-1970s version if the vent is missing? Were the older US ones nickel and newer ones painted? 

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Second, the burner mixing chamber doesn't have a stud to hold the vent in place. Is this typical? I think the vent is similar to a 220/228, but not sure. What are the odds I can find a 237A vent?
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Third, do all of the 237/1A/B lanterns use the bulge globe? Which globe fits this thing? I guess I could try the bulge globe from my 290A?
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It clearly says 237A on the collar along with the instruction to "preheat with alcohol", which makes me wonder if it is a later model.

Any help is appreciated. Thanks,

 
Stovie-Steve
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colors
That's the earlier style made in 1941 only I think. Should have a seafoam vent, they were not dated. Will take the large bulged globe. Nice lantern , they're a little tough to find. 
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Coldwaterpaddler

Oh, no . . . a seafoam vent? That's sounds impossible to find. Hmmm......

Even finding a selection of photos has been more difficult than I expected. Thanks.

Stovie-Steve
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Coldwaterpaddler
Looks like the fuel cap may be wrong too, based on the photo at Marsh's site. It sure does look like a seafoam vent.
Stovie-Steve
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Tgarner01
Coleman made several different variations of dateless 237s. I ended up finding a good breakdown on how to narrow the date of manufacture on them... Now I don't remember where it was... I'll see if I can find you a link. You can also run a 220 globe on these

Edit: try this
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1X6CWUpb-YZTQMXhjiQ0ux4R8dNjb8vOb/view?usp=drivesdk
Toby Garner
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74HARLEY
Nice fuel cap! That vent may be a little hard to find, but I think you may be able to drill some holes in a 220 vent and get by for a while.
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MYN
Nice find. I don't recall any winged filler caps being standard on 237s. Winged caps are usually found on earlier Coleman lanterns, such as the 327, 427,etc. from the 1920s or earlier. I'd believe the earliest 237s were made in the late 1930s, at least in Canada, which already came with the standard 3-piece filler caps.
The valve wheel/knob appears to be the earlier bakelite version without the direction disk. I'm not sure if this is standard in the earliest models.
I don't know if they ever produce any version that came without the vent nut and stud.
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Coldwaterpaddler
@Tgarner01 that document was really helpful and it's pretty clear now that I have a 1941. The pump cap seems to be a clear give-away. The valve wheel and the tip-cleaner lever match that year as well. The winged fuel cap is like new, so I'm not sure how that happened to get on this lantern. Since the vent stud is missing along with the vent and globe, I'm wondering if there was an accident which damaged all three.

@74HARLEY I don't know that I have a spare 220 vent I can use from this but maybe I can find a beater to drill into.

The fount seems reasonably clean, however my Aida lantern was a gunked-up disaster inside all the fuel pickups. Does this thing have a straight pickup tube? Will I be disappointed if I don't pull the valve right now and clean it all?

So far I haven't been able to get the tip cleaner out of the generator. Hopefully, an over-night soak will help.

Thanks for the help.
Stovie-Steve
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Tgarner01
It will be a straight pickup tube...I usually shine a light down into the fount and decide wether to pull them apart.. If they're gunked up bad or lots of rust, I'll strip then down and start my cleaning process.. If not I go with them as is.. on generators like yours, I use a propane torch and heat it up top to bottom side to side until it starts smoking out both ends (gas tip/orfice removed) the smoke will usually catch on fire.. And I keep going until smoke/fire stops... Then quench with water. May have to do it a couple times, but I've had good luck with this process. Your in for a good and worthy project ðŸ‘
Toby Garner
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MYN
Some heat and quench cycles would pretty much loosen everything inside the generator if the overnight soak doesn't help.
Try as far as possible, not to pull out the two brass wire coils by any appreciable force or you might stretch them out too much.
If the vent stud was actually broken off, you might need to have a new piece machined out of brass stock. That's if you can't find a donor piece. The same goes for the vent nut too.
Well, a replacement seafoam green vent might not be the easiest item to come by. Good luck on the restoration.
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That is a nice early one.  Worth the effort to restore.

I have NOS gen and NOS vent stud if you need them.  Try and get the old stud out first.  Maybe put Kroil on it for a while and may have to take to a machine shop to extract it. (Unless that is in your skill set.)

I would think the globe might be a bulged with the "straight" Coleman on it.  Sunrise wouldn't be too bad.

I've got one of these also and need to change out the valve stem on it. (Has the wrong kind.)

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Coldwaterpaddler
The vent stud isn't broken off, but instead is a threaded plug. So, definitely intentional, and even looked original, but probably not??? No idea why it was swapped, but the plug came out easily.

Last night, I removed the valve from the fount. Wasn't going to do it at first, but put a strap wrench on the fount and a crescent wrench on the valve and it was not very tight. Weird. Couldn't loosen it by hand, though. There are marks on the valve from pliers so it has probably been removed previously. I'm glad I removed it in this case, rather than trust that everything was factory condition.

I've got the tip cleaner rod and the inner wire coil removed, but I'm still working to remove the larger one. Also, the tip cleaner lever was not very tight either.
Stovie-Steve
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Greazy
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Dmacp
That's a nice find. a 1941 US 237.  It's very different from most 237's. The valve knob was made on slant tooling so it has directions on the back as well as the front. The valve knob I believe is held on by a 3-56 screw, unique to this 237.
The vent has 3 dots, one for the ball nut and two for the bail.
The globes I've seen are rare large sunshine variants such as the one shown here. Dick Seller's 236 had a straightline globe which I'm guessing is from the late '30's.
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Dan
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Coldwaterpaddler
I received a vent today from @Greazy and also a cheap globe, vent stud and alcohol bottle from OCP. I cleaned up the vent a bit, removing some old paint. Here's is where I'm at now. ready to give this a try this week, I hope.

Does anybody know how to find the IPE company to re-enamel this vent or, what it would cost to get this vent re-enamled inseafoam green?

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Stovie-Steve
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Dmacp
Independence will do a great job. Ask him to make 3 dots. That's the way they came.
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Coldwaterpaddler
@Dmacp I don't think I know what you mean by, "Ask him to make 3 dots". What are 3 dots?
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MYN
Great that you have all the parts in place again. It looks awesome with the nickel still in good nick. 
The vent's good enough as it is. Re-enamelling it with a seafoam green color would be perfect if its within your means.
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I received a vent today from @Greazy and also a cheap globe, vent stud and alcohol bottle from OCP. I cleaned up the vent a bit, removing some old paint. Here's is where I'm at now. ready to give this a try this week, I hope.

Does anybody know how to find the IPE company to re-enamel this vent or, what it would cost to get this vent re-enamled inseafoam green?

237A_After vent_Globe.jpg 
That looks awesome, Steve. Great work! I typed in IPE Porcelain and their site came up.Looking forward to the light up! 
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@Dmacp I don't think I know what you mean by, "Ask him to make 3 dots". What are 3 dots?
 
 

Those are the blue dots that are under the vent nut on most Colemans. they used them on the bail holes on this lantern. It's blue porcelain ground coat which is under the seafoam. About 1/2" diameter.  So there are 3 total.
The lantern on the right has an original vent. The one on the left was redone.

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Dan
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Coldwaterpaddler
Well, gave it a go tonight. Success!!! A thanks to everyone for the help and parts! I may take this one to elk camp this year. ðŸ˜
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Stovie-Steve
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