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Wondering about the list of manufacturers for each year. I assume that info was discovered by going over military records concerning contracts for materials? Seems like if a company was awarded a contract that they would have been obligated to fulfill it. What I'm trying to say,  surely lanterns were produced in each of those years?  

Yes, No?
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rangler
going through the MilSpec Syndicate thread, picked up a couple of missing years, 1959 and 1983.  There are still a lot of missing years.
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Jester76
Here is my list:

1944  Coleman    (no spare part well)
1944  Coleman    ( with spare part well)
1945  Coleman
1952  Coleman
1982  SMP

(one 3927 AGM
(with Mil-spec Aladdin 1944 burner conversion)) [wink]
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Jester -Thanks for posting in this thread. I would like to see the 3927 with the conversion, if you have pics available. I thought there would be a little more interest/participation in a MilSpec. Inventory. Think I have a neighbor who has a '53 Coleman, but will have to confirm.   
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curlyjoe_99
OK updated the list. I am adding this line so that it marks a stopping point.

another reason someone mentioned a while back for year gaps came to mind. if a company had won the contract for 1984 it could have been for two years, and all lanterns made under that portion would be stamped 1984 and not necessarily 1985 since they were part of the 1984 contract.

I have no way to verify this though.

do folks want to keep this running or start a fresh thread?
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Wisconsinite
I have a 1945 Coleman Milspec. I am still trying to get it to light. I am aware they can be tempermental, so I will keep trying. I had a car that had a special way to get it to start. Most reliable car I have ever owned.
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Wonder if we should post an inquiry on the facebook site  https://www.facebook.com/groups/122312681132381/

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rangler
Sure, go ahead with the FB inquiry if you want, I don't do FB so just report back if you'd like. Thanks!
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rangler
HRidarick- I've got 55 on the list, not sure what Curly has going .
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I have a '52 Coleman and an '86 SMP although they are already covered here in this thread.

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Here is the link to some photos of the AGM 3927



http://s36.photobucket.com/user/Marko_Thiry/library/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-06/AGM%203927?sort=3&page=1



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rangler wrote:
HRidarick- I've got 55 on the list, not sure what Curly has going .


I'll add it and repost...  here is the list as of this date:

Year     Member confirmed

44         Yes

45         Yes

46        

47        

48        

49        

50        

51         Yes

52         Yes

53        

54         Yes-Forum Leads

55         Yes

56         Yes

57         Yes

58         Yes

59         Yes

60        

61         Yes

62        

63         Yes

64        

65         Yes

66         Yes

67         Yes

68        

69         Yes

70        

71         Yes

72         Yes

73         Yes

74        

75      Yes-Classifieds   Yes-Forum Leads

76        

77         Yes

78         Yes

79         Yes

80         Yes

81         Yes

82         Yes

83         Yes

84         Yes

85         Yes- Web Pic

86         Yes

87         Yes

88         Yes

89        

90        

91         Yes

As of 0900  22 June



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rangler
Thanks for posting the link to your photos, that is an interesting model (IMO) and hope to find one someday.
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rangler
Good info on the 2 year contract, Curly. I'd never heard that before, I think that having three consecutive years stamped founts would make it hard to agree with, especially for those years.
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BenCartwright
Posted to facebook, only picked up a 1988 SMP,  all the rest that were reported are already on the list.
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rangler
Thanks for your effort.  Added the 88 to the list. Still hoping others here will check theirs and post.
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johneliot
Randall,
Here's a post you helped answer some questions on.
http://www.colemancollectorsforum.com/post/help-with-a-craigslist-buy-new-information-and-question-now-a-money-shot-7189931?pid=1285421206#post1285421206
I'm not sure what date you want to call it, based on the burner or lantern date.

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rangler
Hello John, on this thread, concentrating on founts  from actual MilSpec lanterns with the dates on them.  Your lantern from the earlier post was one that was converted using the alladin conversion burner (as you know) but was not "born" a MilSpec. BTW, I really like the one you posted earlier.
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Ok im on a phone today and will add an 88 at next chance.

BTW I am going to include any source that shows the date stamp. So id you see one at a flea market or srore. Snap a pic and post for proof of the lantern
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Jim_l
OK, here's what I have,
'44 AGM, BIG U.S. on bottom, no parts well but clearly milspec, also has Aladdin burner assembly
2 '45 Colemans, both with parts wells, and Aladdin burner assemblys in them
'52 Coleman
'63 Coleman
and '67 AFM

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rangler
Thanks for posting!
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Thanks for the 88 Ben. list is updated as of tonight
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curlyjoe_99 wrote:
Thanks for the 88 Ben. list is updated as of tonight


OK saw an 85 on the web and was able to grab a pic
85 SMP.JPG



hey If anyone sees an error PLEASE feel free to mention. I found a second listing of Randall's that I missed in the consolidated list.
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rangler
Thanks Curly, added the 85, slowly filling the gaps.

I'm about 99 percent sure my neighbor has a 53, i need check it and get a pic.

Anyone else have any of the "missing" years?
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I wonder if this info will be in the new greenbook?   


Yes! The milspec info is very detailed and thorough. Milspec lovers should be very happy. Obviously, the non-Coleman years are not covered.

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rangler
Good deal, Thanks for the info. Hope to have a copy in hand in about a month.

Are there examples of all the Coleman years?
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BenCartwright
Just got my 1981 MilSpec, an SMP.  I lit it up and did a quick (well a long video) of it shutting down. Most people will not watch the whole thing as it is long.

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Mike
Rangler--the milspec section has multiple tables listing the key features for each of the 5 "types" constructed by Coleman (and years made), plus excellent photos of each representative type. It is an impressive study of 252's.

A must have source for any collector.

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rangler
Thanks !!
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SteveRetherford
might need to be updated but this is what i refer to for for milspec dates

info (From Neil McRae)

 

Only the Coleman Milspecs had a model number. Coleman called the original 252 and when the quad globe was introduced in 1952 gave it the number 252A. None of the others have a number. So there is no such thing as an SMP 252A for instance.

 

Early production from 1944 and 1945 were made by AGM, Akron, and Coleman with Aladdin making burner sets to convert exising lanterns and possibly to supply burners for the other three.

 

From Neil and Warren: (anyone have a 1962 or 1970?)

 

1944 Akron, AGM (Albert Lee,MN), Coleman (Wichita, KS)

1945 AGM, Coleman

1951 AGM

1952-1961 Coleman

1963 Coleman, Thermos

1964-1966 Coleman

1967 Coleman, AutoFab

1968-1969 Coleman

1971-1972 Form-Tech

1973-1976 Coleman

1977 Armstrong Products (Huntington, WV)

1978 Armstrong Products

1979 Coleman, SMP (State Machine Products, Dry Ridge KY)

1980-1991 SMP

 

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SteveRetherford
here is a picture of a funnel posted by Ben Cartwright . i believe this funnel is from AGM and not a coleman ? what you say ??? i call em the beehive funnel .

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rangler
Ben Cartwright- don't forget to trim your mantle strings. Just FYI!
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rangler
I thought it was called a "burner bowl funnel"?
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BenCartwright
First, I am very bad at trimming mantle strings as it doesn't seem to affect operation, never think of it [sEm_oops2]

Second on the 1944 Coleman, it came with that funnel from the PO, it was not attached to the lantern, so no idea whether it is right or not.
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rangler
On the strings, it just looks better, IMO, and said to have potential to break  your mantle.

I think Steve is saying it's a neat funnel, not that it's wrong or anything. (Of course I shouldn't be talking for him.)
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SteveRetherford
ya , i find it a NEAT looking funnel , its an early one . its not a very common one and not a coleman shape . but will work just the same .
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BenCartwright
Any info I can get on funnels or other parts is always appreciated as I really have very little knowledge on these things.

On the strings, no offense taken, and hearing they could cause a problem will change my behavior. I used to run mantles that even had holes in them until I learned that they can cause problems with some sort of flame that could reach the globe and cause problems.
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SteveRetherford
here is one on a agm stove , just sharing useless trivia .

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rangler
Here is a poor pic to compare next to a burner bowl. Click image for larger version - Name: IMG_20150611_091738_603.jpg, Views: 457, Size: 101.03 KB
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curlyjoe_99
ok that IS a neat bit about the funnels. I have been lurking around the web and found that in a pinch, oil or perfume funnels are the similar size of a Military issued funnel and metal. as much as I like to have originals attached, I don't like lugging them around in my kits. so these other modern funnels will draw the duty ... so to speak.  now If I could only find the box I dunked them in after I cleanup that bench   [biggrin]


edit: dang hit post before I remembered to add something:

did a search on past posts here and found references to a 1954 and a 1975.
here's a link to each.

Links to leads on Forum:

1954:  http://www.colemancollectorsforum.com/post/milspec-generator-6469820?highlight=milspec+90&pid=1284406826#post1284406826

 

1975: http://www.colemancollectorsforum.com/post/coleman-1965-milspec-252a-lantern-odd-piece-help-please-6546661?highlight=milspec+90&pid=1279703564#post1279703564

 
Hope they help addto the confirmations

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SteveRetherford
Uhhmmm , Hey Curly , did you buy another milspec last night ? LOL its at the post office right now :-)
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curlyjoe_99
LALALALALALA! 

SOoooo  that's your EBAY handle!

yeah I did, and now that I am trying to fill gaps in the years, I can afford to EBAY buy once a month or two.  [biggrin]
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SteveRetherford
no , it isnt me , but its someone very close to me :-)
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B52Gunner
Looks like I'm a Mil-Spec collector now :-) 1986...same year I went into the USAF, so kind of appropriate. Overall just a couple of rust spots...mostly dusty. Just missing the funnel. Can't wait to fire it up. The mantles in the packages were a separate purchase. Does anyone know anything about them?
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curlyjoe_99
they are military supply issue mantles. the ones not in a bag are older than the bagged ones, I saw then in the supply chain in the later 80's.

not wholy collectible but can't be bought. when getting ready to run try the 2C-HG ones as they work real nice and are more durable then those and the coleman 21

nice find overall and you will love it once you get it running. be sure to wire out the air tube and run through the tear down tutorial- Project Milspec


hope this helps.... holler if you have any questions after reading the how to
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B52Gunner
Thanks Curly.  I just looked through it and it is exactly what I need.

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Fuzzy
I'm no real help to fill in the years.  I have a 1952 Coleman, a 1963 King Seeley, and a 1984 SMP.

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I also scored an Akron conversion if it helps to fill in any gaps:

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rangler
Chad- Thanks for posting. That new conversion is really cool!

Curly- I added the years you dug up...Thanks!
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curlyjoe_99
Wow that is an awesome find! I always though the conversion kit fit on existing valves. never had any idea that it include the valve assembly. So it turns out one might just have needed a fount with the 1/2-27 threads (or 1/2-32 ) for it to convert,  whoda thunk it? wonder if it fit all brandds.


just saw another thread and these may have been vendor specific valve threads. but still cool
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rangler
Trying to post a pic of the neighbors MilSpec that I thought was a '53, turns out I was wrong (again) and it is a 1954.
Anyways, here is a pic of the bottom for verification.
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