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Flyboyfwa
I just answered a recently posted ad for a lantern. As they answered me back, they told me a "collector" just told them it was worth 3x what they listed. As we were talking, they tripled the price. Too bad, they jut lost a decent sale and I lost a nice lantern.

Sigh.
Andy
Mil-Spec Ops #199
Coleman Slant Saver #54
Coleman Quick Lite Crew #06
275 Appreciation Syndicate #1970
The Coleman Blues 243's #159

ICCC #1741
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bowenstudios
Sorry to hear that, I've lucked out and had a couple honest people turn down big offers from other "collectors" after telling me they'd hold an item. Maybe it will still be up in a week or two and they'll reconsider. 
-Mike
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The Coleman Blue's 243's #154
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Bumpkin 95
But if they go to a store and find something’s priced wrong they raise Cain until they get it for the cheaper price. People sometimes 
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  • Like a lantern just hanging out
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Leviticus Tomethreus

I feel you. 

(my conscience) You’ve never bought a lantern.

(me) um, yeah sorry to hear that @Flyboyfwa

My friends don’t call me “Lantern Levi” for nothin’,
if they did call me that.

Looking for bday lanterns 8/38, 8/41, 
10/25, and 8/07

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”I don’t need to write that down, I’ll remember it.”
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Bob1774
One of the dilemmas in collecting is being able to distinguish the difference between ethics from greed and preying on folks who are not aware of what they have.  
Bob
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Gavercronos
This is why I try to not get excited about things until they are (figuratively) in my hands. I almost missed out on a really nice canoe because I miscalculated the time I told the guy I'd take to get there. Yeah, I might have wasted the trip, but I'd still have the cash in my hands, right? As it was, the guy kindly waited extra and I got the boat. 
WillCat

Chautauqua County, New York
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Wanted: GPA dated 5/89 (Red 286?  Black Powerhouse? 508? Early Unleadeds? Canadian things? I'll settle for a propane job at this point) Vintage Sunbeam Mixmaster bowls and accessories, Ruby-cased 10in lamp shade, 7D Mag-lite
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Flyboyfwa
The beauty of Coleman collecting is there are so many models and lanterns out there that you can easily chuckle and drive past that one person who wants "big bucks" and find plenty more far cheaper. It's just sad to see it sit there and not get run or restored because greed stepped in.
Andy
Mil-Spec Ops #199
Coleman Slant Saver #54
Coleman Quick Lite Crew #06
275 Appreciation Syndicate #1970
The Coleman Blues 243's #159

ICCC #1741
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mgmlvks
Online sales are the Wild West.  Many (and I mean MANY) folk are pretty straight up honest and glad to sell to you.  Others sadly fail the (my) ethics test.  I don't get too disturbed over the latter and enjoy the former.
Mike, ICCC member #1156, Slant Saver Group #011, 275 Appreciation Syndicate #0215, FAS #20 - Confusing Future Generations of Collectors One Lantern at a Time
"In order for the light to shine so brightly, the darkness must be present"
Francis Bacon
(and - for those who have asked - avatar from postcard and says "Coming Home by Rail".  https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4595/27430282209_39a564be00_z.jpg
 
 
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zoomkat
Interesting.
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Tigerfans2
As long as you didn't drive an hour to find the price raised. 
If you disagreed about the value you could have asked if that collector had picked it up yet at the 3X price😉
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Coleman Quick Lite Crew #8
Coleman Blues 243's #16
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Gasman64
This is just the kind of thing that goes on in this, and other hobbies, Andy.
I stopped caring if I ever get anything else, which has helped me a lot.  I'm only on this forum to kill time, and distract me from all the crap in this world.
Steve
ICCC #1012
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StanDahl
Did the "collector" actually buy the lantern, or just show off his "knowledge"?
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Flyboyfwa
StanDahl wrote:
Did the "collector" actually buy the lantern, or just show off his "knowledge"?


Nope the "collector" just did a driveby. Oh well on to the next. There will be others to enjoy. 
Andy
Mil-Spec Ops #199
Coleman Slant Saver #54
Coleman Quick Lite Crew #06
275 Appreciation Syndicate #1970
The Coleman Blues 243's #159

ICCC #1741
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VMI88
I've had similar experiences with non-lantern collectibles.  I love it when a "collector" tells somebody their item is worth a fortune. but then doesn't offer to buy it!
Bill R.
Mechanicsville, VA
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fuel brained
Have a lot of those types in the desert. I keep hearing that it sold on epray for $$$$. Thats when I just tell them to have a nice day and move on
Pastor Jeff
God said "Let there be light" so He let His Son shine.
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MilSpec Ops #1960 "Feel the Roar"
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Majicwrench
I'm into this for fun, so I (try) to never take it too serious.  The hunt is fun, and some you win and some you don't, but you will never win if you don't play the game....
 Like the man said, wish them well.
Keith
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campinut
Another one usually follows at a lower price. Patuence is key in this hobby. Recontacting someone continuously also alarms sellers that they are under priced. Be cool and kind is key.. campinut..
Like a moth at night, I am attracted to the light!..7/7/1964...Russ, from Missouri..
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zoomkat
Well, with the lantern and the pricing offers not being specified, there may be two sides to the story, one being said to be "greedy", and the other possibly trying to purchase significantly below the current value.
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Rubing
That’s too bad Andy, hopefully Fern becomes attached to it. 
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bluesky0812
When they start that "They go for ..." I start walking away.  I used to ask if that was the sold price but don't bother anymore.   
Marty
MILSPEC_OPS  #81   ICCC #1451
Looking for 11/88 & 1/69  Still Learning
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Whitegas Extraordinaire
Just curious if this happened here or some other group?
I’ve seen this happen without other collectors specific influence. When your marketplace or crazed list ad blows up you realize your item was priced to low.
TY
Kevin
I frighten easily!

My current shade is Coleman!!

To me a lamp without a shade is creepy!

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rob_pontius
zoomkat wrote:
Well, with the lantern and the pricing offers not being specified, there may be two sides to the story, one being said to be "greedy", and the other possibly trying to purchase significantly below the current value.
  Either way, if a seller posts a price, at or below the current value, any respectable person would honor their posted price. I can tell you from knowing Andy that he wasn't trying to best anyone up on their price. The seller posted their price and that's the price that Andy expected to pay for the lantern. I think that we've all bought things for a lot less than the actual value without feeling bad about doing so because that was the seller's asking price.
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Rubing
Andy is a private person and isn’t out to screw anyone. When I saw this post this morning out of curiosity I checked Andy’s backyard and what stood out was a slant lantern for $150, do the math, Andy was interested in it then the seller tripled the price. 
The sale has since been removed so either the seller honored the original sales price or you guys bombarded the guy so bad that he removed the ad. 
Hopefully Andy got the lantern at the original published sale price which was very fair. 
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Weirdnerd
You should tell them next time " you can sell it on ebay for at least ten times that price".... then chuckle when the guy has to pay month after month of relisting fees.....because no one buys at that price.
Can't sleep, squirrels will eat me....

If you need a Sun Flame Generator Model 100-107 ( for Sunflame lanterns models 105, 106, 107 and 110) give me a PM, I have close to 80 of those, 15 bucks each.


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jph200
Sorry to hear that this happened.  That stinks!  Hopefully you find another one in even better condition at a cheaper price.  Sometimes things work out in an odd way like that.  I missed out on an 200A awhile back, but then a few weeks later came across one in even better condition for $20.  I bought it to give to friends who really like my 200A.

I always enjoy the “it goes for ______ on eBay” folks that I sometimes encounter at the flea market.  I’m always polite about it, but in the back of my mind I always think “well then list it there and sell it there.”
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Coldwaterpaddler
Sometimes cash in hand is worth making an offer, anyway, I think. IMO - in the used stuff market, it's just buyer and seller and an agreed upon price. I've heard the "on ebay these sell for . . . ", too, and I always think, "go ahead, sell it on ebay and deal with the seller when the item arrives boken or they complain it's not as nice as you claimed (in their opinion) and they want their money back". Selling local and in person is easier, I think. But then, there's not many (any) GPAs I just gotta have, so I just walk away.

I have to agree, do your homework before you list it or else sell it at the advertised price.
Stovie-Steve
"Don't let the weather run your life" - Steve
The Coleman Blues - #95
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outlawmws
In buying and selling, its always what someone is willing to pay, vs. what the seller is willing to take.  If both agree, its done.  Everyone wins. 

No one is obligated to pay the maximum price that someone else paid (or someone else says it's worth), ever.    I've gotten MANY screaming deals over a life of buying used stuff.  I've also paid top dollar for something I wanted and the other person had.  Occasionally I've paid MORE than I maybe should have.  No harm, no foul, in any of the cases.  No one used a gun, no one was forced.  

These "morality" arguments are specious at best.  If the seller made the price and it was met, or if the buyer haggled and got the item for less, no one FORCED the seller to accept.  There is a converse to "let the buyer beware"  and it applies to the seller.

We often joke about "lock your doors the cops will be looking for you",  but its just teasing because we wish we had found the deal.
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Coleman Blue's 243's #341 - 275 Appreciation Syndicate member 0242
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Flyboyfwa
Thank you for all the responses. The initial price was $75, the seller then said the "collector", (location withheld), told them it was worth 3x times that or $225. I indicated I was no longer interested and wished them good luck. They then updated the price to $150. I was no longer interested in working with this seller and moved on.

This was just a deal that didn't work out. No big deal there are other lanterns. I only mentioned it due to the numerous posts about people mentioning a "collector" got involved and the price skyrocketed.   

I hope if someone bought it it was one of you and we will see it here soon.

I am truly thankful for the knowledge of the group here and allowing me to be part of it. The only reasons I post here is that I am excited to find something I've read about, learn a huge amount from reading about peoples finds, and hope to contribute to the combined knowledge of the group. Thank you for all the help you have given me.
Andy
Mil-Spec Ops #199
Coleman Slant Saver #54
Coleman Quick Lite Crew #06
275 Appreciation Syndicate #1970
The Coleman Blues 243's #159

ICCC #1741
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scl
when you least expect it, the ones you want will drop in your lap. i have gotten some that in my mind i wrote off as never in my lifetime.
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Chucker
Sorry Andy. They list a price and you make an offer - should seal the deal. Not always. 
Chuck
"...we also glory in our sufferings, because we know that suffering produces perseverance; perseverance, character; and character, hope" Romans 5:3-4
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VMI88
jph200 wrote:
I always enjoy the “it goes for ______ on eBay” folks that I sometimes encounter at the flea market.  I’m always polite about it, but in the back of my mind I always think “well then list it there and sell it there.”


The worst are the ones that actually print out an eBay auction (usually not a completed auction) and stick it on their item.
Bill R.
Mechanicsville, VA
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monkeyboy
Gasman64 wrote:
This is just the kind of thing that goes on in this, and other hobbies, Andy.
I stopped caring if I ever get anything else, which has helped me a lot.  I'm only on this forum to kill time, and distract me from all the crap in this world.

good mantra
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Mudzoory
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monkeyboy
campinut wrote:
Another one usually follows at a lower price. Patuence is key in this hobby. Recontacting someone continuously also alarms sellers that they are under priced. Be cool and kind is key.. campinut..

more good advice.
buzz the universe in a drop of water Coleman 275 Appreciation Syndicate Member #0066
Mudzoory
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monkeyboy
i try to look at buying from both sides,
if i was the seller i’d prolly want to get as much as possible, if the buyer i’d most likely enjoy a good deal at the lowest price, but not offering enough or low balling is not good karma either. sounds noble but i’m sure i’d wiggle
on something i really jonesed for.
i bought a nice Aladdin 1942 in the can for $3.00 at a local auction. anybody at the auction had the same chance i had at the stove. paid $40.00 for a complete original set of Fox Fire books. it was a good day.
like was said previously have fun don’t sweat it when you miss out. patience is key
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Mudzoory
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Whitegas Extraordinaire
Another forum I was on a newbie signed up to ask what he bought at an estate sale. It was an extremely rare piece that he tried to auction through the forum to the highest bidder. Like here that is against the rules so membership and mods slapped him around pretty good. He stayed involved in the hobby and vacuumed up a ton of prime pieces from his Local area. He took his search national and proceeded to alert many people they were selling to low. Like the OP’s scenario I would describe it as &&%%***ary!
He flipped a ton of items on the bay while he flipped us the bird. Not so cool!
Thank you
Kevin
I frighten easily!

My current shade is Coleman!!

To me a lamp without a shade is creepy!

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monkeyboy
what Whitegas said,
 greed is always gonna be around waiting for its chance to strike.

what was it,” pursuit of happiness “
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Mudzoory
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Lanterndude
Whether the abrupt change in price was coincidental or not, stuff like that happens to the best of us.

You are correct about one thing for sure though, that seller definitely lost out on a decent sale/good buyer.

I remember once I had been looking for a specific book and finally found it on Ebay with a BIN price (with no bidding price). The BIN price was a bit higher than what I would have been willing to pay for it but still I tagged it as "Saved".  Well after continuing searching for that specific book at other venues online with no luck, the next day I went back to Ebay to finally purchase the book and well low and behold the seller jack'd up the price 3 times than what it originally was posted for!

Greed!......that's all it comes down to.

I understand a seller wants the most for what they are selling but be within reason and don't let greed cloud your judgement.

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Moosetrot
On the other hand (not GPA)...I once saw a pair of snowshoes on CList that were really nice and a great price.  Called and said I would take them.  I ran out there on my lunch break...rushed...and got them and did not ask my usual question "Do you have any more stuff like this?" The next day on CList he had another pair and I called and asked him how many more pair he had.  He said 2 or 3. I asked if I could get them all for the same price and he said "Sure" Sold and I will be there Saturday morning, when I finally asked him "Do you have any more stuff like this?"

He took me across the highway to his deceased Dad's place. His Dad refurbished old buggies, sleighs, etc.  He started throwing terribly low prices at me and I interrupted him and said he could get a lot more for this stuff if you would advertise. He said "If you don't buy it for these prices someone else will." I called it my "Super-Pick" and after 4 packed Suburbans full of 14 sets of buggy runners, seats, blacksmithing stuff, and other antiques it truly was. No GPA's but a ton of other stuff. I guess it was my turn.
Moosetrot-Scourge of the North
a.k.a. Ray
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