200A and 202 reproduction
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Phredd
I have three M1950s and only one has a wrench.  Has anyone through about making replacements?  I'm no toolmaker, but the wrench looks like it is just a stamped piece of flat metal.  I would think that one of those fancy water cutters could duplicate this shape real easy.
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Hot Diggity
Interesting idea.  I'll have to check with my fabricator and see if his pinch or plasma cutter could rough them out.  

I think they were zinc plated, but a nice color case hardened look would be sharp.

I have no issue with folks making functional replacement parts, but not reproductions that somebody could pass off as genuine Coleman parts.  Making, not faking.
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xvz12
I work with wire EDMs.....I'm sure I could cut a few out, I'd need someone to loan me a wrench for a pattern, or a detailed drawing if someone who owns a wrench has CAD experience.  The finish, zinc or otherwise, would have to be done somewhere else, I would think that would be up to the recipients.
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Chucker
Cool, I'd be in for a few. You guys would be filling a niche for sure. 
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Phredd
I totally agree with making and not faking.  So to prevent resale as originals they should be stamped "Fictus" (which is Latin for fake.)
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zoomkat
"I'd need someone to loan me a wrench for a pattern, or a detailed drawing if someone who owns a wrench has CAD experience"

If a wrench can be scanned on a flat bed scanner into a pdf file, then printing out the resulting pdf file "actual size" will make a fairly accurate templet to follow.  Below is a scan of a set of DollarTree wrenches that are stamped out of ~1/16" metal.

 
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xvz12
Creating CAD drawings from samples or pics is a major part of my job, a good scan made into a ,pdf would work, as long as I had exact dimensions of the overall length of the wrench, openings between the jaws, & the dimensions of the holes.  A .pdf provides the pattern, but is almost never true size, pretty much always undersize, 
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zoomkat
" A .pdf provides the pattern, but is almost never true size, pretty much always undersize,"

In the past I've had problems with pdf files wanting to print out a 98% of original size, but not seeing that particular issue now days with the scanned pdf files I make. The below pdf has a scan of a folding Coleman reflector, and the little standard generator wrench that came in the metal lantern safes.  If anybody wants to experiment, they can print out the below pdf "actual size" ,then compare their generator wrenches to the printed pdf wrench size.  YMMV
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5fivesix
M1942 wrenches I'm working on I'm still waiting on my shop to tweak a few dimensions.These were cut on a water jet as soon as I can get this program finished I can ask the programmers to see if we can make them.20190620_093644_resize_61.jpg 
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bowenstudios
5fivesix wrote:
M1942 wrenches I'm working on I'm still waiting on my shop to tweak a few dimensions.These were cut on a water jet as soon as I can get this program finished I can ask the programmers to see if we can make them.20190620_093644_resize_61.jpg 


That's looking nice! Are you also thinking about reproducing the m1950 wrench? Seems like they'd be easier, since they dont have a clip. Also, is that stainless? Seems like that would keep people from faking it and you wouldn't have to worry about a finish. Not as original but really useful.
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5fivesix
It is 1/8th stainless the originals are a bit thinner they are die stamped and have a square recessed behind the clip so the wrench can sit on the frame.There really wouldn't be any way to fake one I have to machine a bit of material after so the wrench can be secured on the square post.The m1950 wrench would be alot easier to make.As far as passing one off for a real one it would be alot of work to try to duplicate the die stamped look one side is usually more rounded than the other the edges are usually rough.I will see about making them.
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Phredd
if I can find time tomorrow I will make  PDF and prove some caliper-based measurements.

Phredd
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zoomkat
"they should be stamped "Fictus" (which is Latin for fake.)"

They could be marked "Faux" and "Placebo", just like my "Chinese tiger pills".   
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ecblanks
zoomkat wrote:
"they should be stamped "Fictus" (which is Latin for fake.)"

They could be marked "Faux" and "Placebo", just like my "Chinese tiger pills".   

Yeah I remember all those infomercials in the 80's hocking faux pearls and what not before anyone knew what that word meant.
And I'll get in line for one of the wrenches.
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Phredd

Wynn or Mike,

Attached are two photos. One is a scan of the wrench. The other is a tracing with measurements.  The two cuts at the end are obviously wrenches as one is 9/16' and the other is 13/32".  I have no idea what the other cutouts in the middle are for.  Let me know if you need more measurements. 

It might be easier if someone who has a couple extra wrench would send you one. Click image for larger version - Name: M1950 Wrench small.jpg, Views: 39, Size: 116.04 KB Click image for larger version - Name: img086.jpg, Views: 39, Size: 172.87 KB
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xvz12
I think I can work with these, thanks for posting them!
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pagrey
zoomkat wrote:
"they should be stamped "Fictus" (which is Latin for fake.)"

They could be marked "Faux" and "Placebo", just like my "Chinese tiger pills".   


No matter how you make them they will be easy to tell from the originals, trust me.
Paul
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