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I picked up this Dietz Junior last weekend for a few bucks to do an experiment, which if I can make it work, I'll report on in the future.  In the meantime and just for the heck of it, I wanted to see how long I could make a wickie run.  So, Tuesday I filled it up and lit it.  During the day, it was turned way down.  So low, that it wouldn't really make a night light.  However, when I was outdoors with it at night, I would turn it up.

I went out to check on it around 2:00AM this morning and it was out (or so I thought) but was still warm.  I must have been half asleep thinking it was out because I went to move it earlier this afternoon, I saw that it was still lit!

So far, this thing has been going for 95 hours!  I expect it to run out of of fuel at any time, just like I expected yesterday.  🙂  Looking into the fount, I still see around a tablespoon of fuel left.

Turned down during the day:
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Turned up at night when outside with it.
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Again, just playing around.  Nothing earth shattering here.

-Jim

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Majicwrench
I played around with a couple of wickies lasst winter, cleaned out the bugs etc and lit em up, I was impressed, simple and effective, they are going camping this summer
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Ridge Runner
Nothing wrong with that, Jim. That’s way past the intended burn time. Play on!

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74HARLEY
I have a little wizard with the extended run tank and if I remember correctly it's supposed to be good for 70 some hours  at rated output. You'll get one heck of a long run by turning it down.
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outlawmws
This is interesting!  I was actually wondering about this the other day, but SWMBO hates the smell of kero.  (I can get by with some lamp oils...)
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JimL
It's now at 98 hours and still going.  I'm sure it'll run out at any moment, just like I was sure yesterday.  🙂

-Jim

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Wow! Pretty amazing!
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holliswood
Incredible!! Very interesting experiment Jim. That’s definitely got me curious about running one myself. Can you tell me where full tank is for you in the fount?
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Nice experiment, Jim.  I wonder if the wick will dry up and char a bit.
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JimL
Fred,

For this experiment, I went for longevity, just to see how long it would go, so the fount was filled more than I ever normally would.  I filled it to the top section of the fount, but below the air tubes.  The fount capacity is listed as nine ounces, but I'm guessing it was maybe ten I put in it.  I'll see if I have a measuring cup for fuel, and if so, I'll refill and then empty to measure it.   As of 1:00AM, it's at 102 hours and still going.

-Jim

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Thanks Jim! That’s got to be a world record.
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JimL
I don't know when, but it finally ran out of fuel during the night.  I'm just guessing it lasted another hour or two.

>> I wonder if the wick will dry up and char a bit.

Although I haven't checked it yet, this is a given.  I will have to cut off some of the wick at the top as a result.  Although a wick will naturally get consumed over time, it's so negligible, you likely won't ever notice.  Running one out of fuel will use up the wick.  However, in my 50 or so years of using wickies off and on, the wicks are so long they will likely never need replacing unless repeatedly run out of fuel.

-Jim

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JimL
Just a quick update.  I refilled(overfilled a bit), and measured about 11oz with this overfilling.  So I estimate maybe 10 to 10 1/2 oz consumed during that 102+ hours.

-Jim

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outlawmws
So roughly 10 hours per oz,  average  - impressive!

Best I've ever managed on a GPA is .66 hours per oz. on a 222...  that's POINT  Sixtysix hours.   

10 hours would tale 6 -7 oz!  - Good, but not wickie good!
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That’s a helk of run Jim! Definitely is a smooth sipper 👍🏻
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JimL
Keep in mind it only sipped fuel because it was barely running when I wasn't around and therefore wasn't producing usable light.  I just wanted to see how long I could get one to burn continuously.  As the title says, just a silly little wickie experiment.  No real point of it, other than satisfying a curiosity. 

-Jim

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Jim, now wide a wick does the Deitz Jr. have?
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JimL
>>Jim, now wide a wick does the Deitz Jr. have?

I went to Kirkman's site and the wick is listed as 5/8".   I know nothing of this lantern other than I paid $3 for it last weekend.  🙂

-Jim

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Thanks Jim.  I have an ulterior motive:  I have this candle stove I built many years ago and a few years ago converted it to a small home built alcohol lamp that barely fit (actually I had to open e doorway a bit...)  

With the new ban on DNA,  I'm of course looking for an alternative fuel.  I'm hoping that deodorized kero, with its higher heat value, will work and possibly burn longer.  I need to test and make sure its not going to get out of control, in any way.  Even Lamp oil would be an option...

I dug the thing out of the tent trailer (it was in the LAST box I pulled out...) and this is it.  It's been on the forum before, so you may recognize it:

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And the business end:  it worked perfectly on DNA as long as I didn't over fill as the heat would expand the fuel and it would leak all over and catch fire.  it took a little to figure out it was literally siphoning out the wick tube!  I should add a tiny vent hole to the cap...  and STILL not overfill...

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JimL
I'm not recalling that stove.   If you want alcohol in Ca, I'd do a little more looking, but look for it as stove fuel, not DNA.  If regular suppliers don't have it, maybe check your local marine store.

For some reason, I'm thinking kero won't work without sooting up unless you have something for a chimney.  Maybe even make one out of a beer can with a few notches at the bottom to help it create a draft.  If this works, then perhaps one of the online Amish stores will have a tiny chimney for you that you may just need to find a way to elevate it a little for the draft.  I was surprised when I saw the selection of chimneys at Leacock Coleman center.  From Aladdin and Rayo style chimneys down to tiny ones maybe 3" tall.

-Jim

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74HARLEY
Have you guys looked at truck stops for alcohol? Lots of older trucks have alcohol evaporators in the air systems. It used to be less than 10.00 a gallon.
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1hpycmpr
Cool experiment, Jim.  I never would have guessed that it would last anywhere near that amount of time, even periodically turned down real low.
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JimL
Mark,

It was more that it was periodically turned up.  Most likely, at least 95% of the time it was at the very low setting.

-Jim

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1hpycmpr
Jim, I do remember you stating that you turned it up when you were around and down real low when the lantern was left alone.  Still quite surprising results.  I need to get my wickies down, dusted off, and filled.  Sometimes it’s quicker to grab those and head to the deck on a hot midsummer’s eve.
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