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JosephDurham
So,
now I’m attempting to take it all apart. Is citric acid a good all around cleaner to use?

Joseph Durham

ICCC #1954
Looking for bday lantern 10/84

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zoomkat
"Filled full of new fuel, pumped 30 times, opened the knob and waited, hssssssss never the sound of fuel, only air."

I assume that the fuel control valve is in the 1/4 turn open position for lighting in your lighting attempt. If so, then you might pump it back up again and open the fuel full open and see if you get some gas coming out. Do not attempt to light the lantern during this test. This test is to see if the fuel control rod retracts out of the fuel pickup tube orifice. If gas does come out, that is a good sign, but the lantern will be flooded. Let the lantern sit and dry out some if gas does come out before another normal lighting attempt. There could be some gum around the fuel control rod tip causing starting fuel blockage. You might also try depressurizing the tank and cycling the fuel control valve full open and closed several times to possibly get the fuel control valve free if it is stuck.  
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Northman49
If you remove the generator  and open the valve you may isolate the problem as being before the valve, i.e.pick up tube or after the valve..i.e generator. Assuming you have  pressure in tank.
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JosephDurham

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ok, so I’ve made it this far. There is fuel spitting up nicely. So I would think that fuel should travel up into the burner without issue.


So, help me out, what should I do now?  Soak everything in the citric acid to clean it up?  Or what? 

Joseph Durham

ICCC #1954
Looking for bday lantern 10/84

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JosephDurham
Well, looking closer.....I opened the valve and it spurred gas wonderfully and suddenly stopped. There was a lot of black specs. So, I took the fuel valve out completely and now have everything soaking. Hoping this comes through. I am excited that I may have actually figured it out. 😁

Joseph Durham

ICCC #1954
Looking for bday lantern 10/84

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D421
Empty the fuel. You can save the fuel by pouring through a coffee filter. Shine a light into the empy fount. If it's dirty it will need to be cleaned.

Search BB shake. Your in this far might as well clean everything.
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D421
Take the F/A tube off get it clean. Use a tooth pick to clean the hole at the bottom.
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Majicwrench
Did you spin tip cleaner?? A lot??

Remove generator.
Open valve 1/4 turn and see if just air comes out of valve. For one minute.
If it is just air.....

Now try briefly opening valve all the way. You should get solid fuel shooting out of valve.
Report back.
Keith
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JosephDurham

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Hey guys, the Mrs just took this. Here is the 228. I got her running strong!!  And I’m happier then a kid in a candy store, if you couldn’t tell.


I appreciate everyone’s help!  

Joseph Durham

ICCC #1954
Looking for bday lantern 10/84

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Majicwrench
Now you gotta tell us what got it running.....
Keith
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D421
Good. What worked?
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JosephDurham

The F/A was clocked almost entirely!  I couldn’t figure out what it was going to be. Everything kept looking good until that last little piece lol. I saw all the gunk and knew that’s where the issue was. So, I got the socket and took it off; dropped everything into hot water with citric acid and the water began bubbling and black particles were were escaping the tubing. 


When it had sat 15 minutes I blew air through everything and I could see a major difference in the fuel line. 


Got it back together, new set of mantles, crossed  my fingers. I pumped her up, turned that valve and sure enough the sweet spitting sound of fuel. I could have danced a jig right there. Hahaha. 

Joseph Durham

ICCC #1954
Looking for bday lantern 10/84

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Rhubarb
Way to go Joe(seph)!  Good job sticking with it. Looks like it's making good light.
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Bumpkin 95
Great job getting it running. And you do have to love that sound when you first get one going. 
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74HARLEY
Congrats on the rebuild! Now that you have accomplished this you can fix any lantern! Job well done!
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JosephDurham

Thank you Joe!  

I’m still smiling. And I’ve lit it twice already. Lol
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I decided to light two up tonight for a comparison. The 228 is a much softer glow, but so enjoyable. The picture makes them both look about the same, but you know it’s there. 

Joseph Durham

ICCC #1954
Looking for bday lantern 10/84

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zoomkat
"The 228 is a much softer glow, but so enjoyable."

When you rotate the cleaning lever, you should see significant dimming when the cleaning lever is in the up position. This is a verification that the pricker wire is entering the generator orifice to clean it.
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JosephDurham
zoomkat wrote:
"The 228 is a much softer glow, but so enjoyable."

When you rotate the cleaning lever, you should see significant dimming when the cleaning lever is in the up position. This is a verification that the pricker wire is entering the generator orifice to clean it.

The one thing I noticed about the pricker on the 228 is that I have to rotate it so fast or else it will die out on me. It happened more then once today. 

Joseph Durham

ICCC #1954
Looking for bday lantern 10/84

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zoomkat
"The one thing I noticed about the pricker on the 228 is that I have to rotate it so fast or else it will die out on me. It happened more then once today."

That is probably a good thing. It means the pricker wire is probably in good shape and doing its cleaning job. The tip of the pricker rod might also block the orifice some when fully up, so monitor the lantern brightness. The generators on the older lanterns have a small piece of brass screen in the generator that does not normally come out when the other internals do. Not being aware of the screen often results in people bending the pricker wire on the screen when reassembling the generator. Looks like yours is in good shape
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JosephDurham

zoomkat wrote:
"The one thing I noticed about the pricker on the 228 is that I have to rotate it so fast or else it will die out on me. It happened more then once today."

That is probably a good thing. It means the pricker wire is probably in good shape and doing its cleaning job. The tip of the pricker rod might also block the orifice some when fully up, so monitor the lantern brightness. The generators on the older lanterns have a small piece of brass screen in the generator that does not normally come out when the other internals do. Not being aware of the screen often results in people bending the pricker wire on the screen when reassembling the generator. Looks like yours is in good shape


I was unaware of the screen. I’ll have to make a mental note. Thank you for the info. 


Yes, I think overall the lantern is running great!  I couldn’t be happier. 

Joseph Durham

ICCC #1954
Looking for bday lantern 10/84

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