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dhosking
I have had this lantern since I was a kid (50+ years) while growing up in Canada, and I would like to bring it back to life.  It has a date stamp "48" on it.  I would like to know the model number so I can find replacment parts for it. Should I try to restore the paint or just leave it as is?  20200908_184930 - resized.jpg  Any information would be appreciated very much.   
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SteveRetherford
might be a mix mash of parts , as the vent if from the early thirties . its a 242 of some kind . even the valve wheel looks early to me but kinda fuzzy pic , you sure about that 48 date ?

look over this link it will show your vent .   https://terry-marsh.com/coleman-us-lanterns-1931-1936/
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Tgarner01
More pictures would help... Are the date numbers stamped 4       8     Or 48? Maybe a August 34? I don't know a lot about the Canadian models..
Toby Garner
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SteveRetherford
early 30's founts were not logo stamped , so i think some mix n match was involved .
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Tgarner01
Good catch Steve, I see it now. I don't believe I have one with the stamp under the filler like that either...
Toby Garner
ICCC #1939
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Stevenbrown817
That's porcelain on the vent.  It looks like someone painted over it though and the paint is peeling.   If your going to run it, paint won't hold up to the heat.  You could get the porcelain re-done,  or just let the paint burn off and leave it like that.  Otherwise it looks pretty good as-is.
STEVE
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dhosking
Thanks for the quick response. The stamped number is 48, not 4  8.  The lettering underneath the Coleman logo says "The Sunshine of the Night" . There is some paint over top of the enamel but it's mostly peeled off.  The lantern could easily be from the 1930s - it came from our cabin that was built in 1905. 20200908_185031 - Resized.jpg
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Tgarner01
Should be a month code stamp to the far left of the stamp, level with the 48 if I'm not mistaken, again I'm no Canuck expert. Would like to see some pictures of the burner if you have them, and valve wheel might help those who know more about these.
Toby Garner
ICCC #1939
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dhosking
Not sure why the image is horizontal - sorry.  20200908_195541 - Resized.jpg  20200908_195559 - Resized.jpg  20200908_195941 - Resized.jpg   
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outlawmws
Is there a number or letter on the right side abuot where the dark spot is?  Not that it matters a lot, as the year for the fount is clearly 48.

Most likely a 242 C?    If you take the burner off (one nut in the center)  you can check to see if the collar was marked inside?  (once in a while one shows up that was rolled inside out...)

The only likely part to need to be very specific is the generator. (But uses the same generator as the 200A's)

The cap gasket and pump leather are pretty standard  (Small gasket for the fuel cap)

Mantle will be a #21 (most common Coleman mantle)  or the equivalent in another brand.

I don't see a pre-heater, so unlikely to be Kero fueled.
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Tgarner01
Steve's right, definitely early vent and burner.. Possibly collar and valve assembly, but the fount is later. Still a nice one to own! The parts are worth a bit by themselves
Toby Garner
ICCC #1939
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dhosking
This is all very good information--thanks. Is there a check valve in the pump unit and, if so, how would I go about examining and/or repairing it?
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outlawmws
Does the pump work?  That's the quick test.   If it does and the pressure doesn't push back (assuming its holding pressure), the check valve works.  
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Tgarner01
Yes there is a check valve, sometimes they need to be cleaned. You really need this tool to keep from tearing it up upon removal.
https://www.oldcolemanparts.com/product.php?productid=2179&cat=&page=1
Toby Garner
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outlawmws
And a '48 fount so it should have a check valve not a pip.
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SteveRetherford
its clearly an early valve wheel , vent n frame . so im thinking someone did a fount swap to get it working . id just see if i could get it to work as is ? some collectors might try to make it all correct again , 30's or 48 one way or the other , its all good ...... in my eyes i see no reason you cant get it to work like it is with a little work  . fuel cap gasket first so you can try pump it n go to the next step .
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dhosking
its clearly an early valve wheel , vent n frame . so im thinking someone did a fount swap to get it working . id just see if i could get it to work as is ? some collectors might try to make it all correct again , 30's or 48 one way or the other , its all good ...... in my eyes i see no reason you cant get it to work like it is with a little work  . fuel cap gasket first so you can try pump it n go to the next step .
  I just want to get it working well again so I will try the basic things like a new fuel cap gasket.  I assume that I can find a gasket for sale somewhere, but I am not sure what size to ask for--that's why I posted on this Coleman Collector's site.  I will be working on this lantern in the next few days. I have 5 more lanterns to refurbish--I actually use them at my off-grid cabin in Missouri.
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SteveRetherford
the gasket is a Buck at OCP , but if you have an oring assortment ? lots of folks use orings , coleman used flat gaskets , thats what OCP sells , you might want some mantles , or even a new generator depending on how it looks ? a graphite packing and you can just about rebuild it :-) it all depends on you ?
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mgmlvks
Please do get it running.   Lots of help here.  As to what it is, keep in mind it is what it is because of your family history, no real need to "restore" or "correct" it since Family Lanterns Are The Best.
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(and - for those who have asked - avatar from postcard and says "Coming Home by Rail".  https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4595/27430282209_39a564be00_z.jpg
 
 
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dhosking
Thanks again to everyone for the help and advice.  I will get it running and then I'll post a photo of its Sunshine in the Night.
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Guff
As Steve Retherford said above, you have an early 242 uppers on a later 242B fount.

I would narrow it down to a Canadian 242 Junior uppers, (collar, valve, frame and vent) on a CA 242 B fount.
The collar has only the lighting instructions, the valve wheel is the early multi splined one used on the 242 models from 1932 to 1936, but that valve wheel with the "Coleman" inscribed on it  was only used in Canada on some early table lamps and some of the 242 Juniors only.
The frame also has the stepped base plate which you don't find much after 1936, on Canadian 242 models, but the Juniors had them from 1932. The vent appears to be the small early one but it's pic is too blurry to see the vent connection detail. All of these features of the uppers say to me that it may be all Canadian 242 Junior from 1932 to early 1934.
It would also be interesting to see the F/A tube on the underside of the valve, to see if it is the 242 Junior type with the screen on the end and a generator type jet which screws into the end to provide the fuel orifice. Only the early 242 had that type.

The fount is dated 1948, but I don't think the wire clip on the pump cover is correct for that date. I think it should be fixed with a single screw and the clip came with later embossed collar mid 1950.

It's a real shame the original fount has been replaced, but you still have some very early uppers there. A 242 Junior is hard to find, and I think you have most of one. You never know you may be able to find the correct Canadian fount sometime in the future. It's a good find.

Keith.
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dhosking
Steve Rutherford mentioned a graphite packing in his messge about my old lantern. Where can I learn about this? Where and how is graphite packing used on these lamps. 
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outlawmws
The packing is used to keep the valve stem and picker rod actuator from leaking.  

Keith - the Clip on the pump was likely cobbled together to replace lost screws and striped screw holes.
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Guff
outlawmws wrote:
The packing is used to keep the valve stem and picker rod actuator from leaking.  

Keith - the Clip on the pump was likely cobbled together to replace lost screws and striped screw holes.


Yep, most likely. Very easy to lose. They are so tiny, and I have lost quite a few after dismantling these 242s. I now put them in a small clear plastic container with a lid, as soon as I remove them. Hard to find replacements as well, especially down under.

Keith.
 
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SteveRetherford
here is a rebuild tutorial that might help you https://www.oldtowncoleman.com/learn/rebuild-coleman-single-mantle-lantern.htm
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drkillemquick
That is a great lantern with some cool history! 
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fuel brained
For small metal pieces I use a stainless steel bowl with a strong magnet hot glued to it. Great Lantern Just let it burn.
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major_man
Maybe the tank is somewhere in your other 5?

I would leave it as is, family history, just get it working and enjoy!
Everything Keith noted about the parts is correct. 
William
WTB or trade for poultry or USFS.
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scl
yes, early canadian 242nl with later fount and pump.  put a wtb in the classifieds and you will most likely get the right fount and pump and you will have an absolute jewel.
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scl
oh, i almost forgot, a fred kuntz mica or sandblasted straight side globe for it too.
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