200A and 202 reproduction
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in stock.
Please put here any good or bad design or feature you've noticed about a stove or lantern, or anything that burns.  I hear shraeder valves suck but have no idea what they do. Thanks,

Found this in Coleman 905 stove year 1932, a cammed internal shaft that controls flow of fuel to another burner.
cammed valve.jpg 
One that's been discussed many times before is the shutoff, or lack thereof on a 501 stove.  The shutoff is after the generator, so if anything were to go wrong, it can't be shut down.

Petromax style lanterns are safe when run on kero, but some believe the marketing hype of a company or two that state they are safe running naphtha.  There is no positive shutoff on these, which makes them unsafe running anything but kero.  In this case, it's the marketing/sales literature that I deem defective.

Another major flaw that comes to mind is the brown color of the 275.  The drop in lantern sales started with the introduction of that color.   They didn't fully recover with the ugly silvery gray color of the dual fuels that replaced the brown.   They're fine running lanterns, just not very attractive out of the box.  The liquid-fueled Northstars, 639 kero's and 286's are green and still in production.           🙂


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I would suggest Schrader valve lantern's after 1984 don't suck, they simply have a limited shelf life of around 20 years, IMO.  Like any lantern or stove you must understand it's limitations. 

AGM brass founts - voted most likely to have stress cracks. Watch out. 

Better design? Jim touches on the Petromax lantern's above not having a positive shut-off, and he is correct, however their Preston Loop generators/vaporizer's are winners. They can out run a Coleman kero gen by a month or more before it needs cleaning and can be made to run VERY bright. Again, my 2 cents. 
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I'm gonna have to throw in the 238B. I love my 500s but it's just a oversized 200A. They could have made it sooo much better with the cast parts like the usual 500s.  Either way I wouldn't give mine up but they kinda suck.
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More a curiosity than a flaw/advantage, but it's always puzzled me that Coleman went with an NRV instead of the tried-and-true air stem/CV for the 242, then just tried to fix problems caused by a slowly leaking NRV by putting the pins in the pump shaft. That was a bandage, not a cure. Don't get me wrong, I love my little 242 and 242A, but Coleman obviously saw the light when they returned to the air stem/CV on the 242B and never went back.
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The 459 had a curious cam design where the cam for the control knob fits flat against the valve stem block, as seen in this picture (credit Bob Archambault)
You can see the cam, on the right, has a circular groove where an o-ring should be.  It presses into the valve stem block (left) which should shut off fuel flow.  Heres the problem; if the o-ring goes bad you're gonna have a hard time shutting it off.  In my case, I proactively replaced thed old o-ring with a new one and it didn't grab in the grove enough, so when the valve stem got hot the o-ring would stick to it and pull out. This caused problems. Granted I was using a flat o-ring instead of a donut, which was not intended.  I ended up going back to the old o-ring.
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Thermos pumps, M1950 stoves ditto (my favorite stove is an M1950 but if it starts to get aroused I do Not light it)
bad designs off the top of my head-
Having the vent screw thread directly into the mixing chamber, like the 243B. It stinks, it seizes, it's awful.
Having the bail go into holes in the ventilator and nothing else-it just chips the porcelain.
Having a tiny fuel jet located in the bottom of the pickup, and then cementing/soldering the valve in so that it is next to impossible to remove. An AGM trait. The jet clogs and the lantern stops working, and trying to fix it results in the valve shearing off.
Having the end of the air tube open to insects. While hanging in the garage wasps build a nest in it, blocking it.
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The generator on the 533 stove is pretty much a throw away design. Not being able to remove the generator tip will not allow it to really be cleaned. The cost of a new generator is $20+, making the stove itself somewhat of a throw out item when the generator gets clogged.
I love the slotted vents on 242s. 
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