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I have a stove that has its F&A tube out. I noticed the top of the tube are the two side holes, I can see the inner tube move up and down. If I shake the F&A tube up and down that center inner tube shakes up and down. The very top of that inner tube is about 1 and 1/2 threads showing that I can see in those two upper side holes. Is this center inner tube supposed to be screwed into the bolt up top? Tube.jpg  threads.jpg 
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hikerduane
It is soldered up there I think like the outer.
Duane
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hikerduane wrote:
It is soldered up there I think like the outer.
Duane

Happy joy. No result on ebay or oldcolemanparts. 
; ^(

Wonder if I can sweat off the bottom and try to screw it back on.

Yep, I'm in trouble : ( (read below)

Oh, good.  
Good time to bring this up. It's a common misconception, but that's not how the F/A tube works.
Knowing how it works helps diagnose problems faster.

Rod-based Instant Light Systems:
The rod retracts and fully opens the fuel inlet. With fuel allowed to flood in (instead of trickle) it essentially cuts off the air.
The F/A tube is and inner tube and an outer.
Air goes in the top of the outer tube, down, then picks up a little fuel that's seeping past the rod and goes up and out the inner tube.
When the rod moves up, the orifice at the bottom is fully opened and the fuel that floods in equalizes with the level in the rest of the tank, rendering the air cut off.
It's a gravity driven balance of power.
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hikerduane
I recently picked up a vintage stove and wondered why the instant start wasn't working.  Those two holes were soldered over and when I removed the solder, could see the inner tube was missing, but that took another day to realize the stove would not run at all with those holes opened up and the inner tube missing  When I soldered them over while waiting for the correct F&A tube I got the stove running, but had to solder the outer tube back in as it came loose while filling over the holes, that's how I know the outer was soldered in.
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SteveRetherford
Cut it right down the middle so we can how its constructed ? 😁  being the one tube is loose I'd probably replace it . I have never tried to fix one .
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hikerduane wrote:
I recently picked up a vintage stove and wondered why the instant start wasn't working.  Those two holes were soldered over and when I removed the solder, could see the inner tube was missing, but that took another day to realize the stove would not run at all with those holes opened up and the inner tube missing  When I soldered them over while waiting for the correct F&A tube I got the stove running, but had to solder the outer tube back in as it came loose while filling over the holes, that's how I know the outer was soldered in.
Duane

Wonder if they did a Kerosene conversion on it.

Cut it right down the middle so we can how its constructed ? 😁  being the one tube is loose I'd probably replace it . I have never tried to fix one .

Soon as I'm done eating these Jalapeno potato chips I picked up at Costco ( Addictive ) I'm going to get my pen torch out (at least I'm trying to sweat the end off with something) and hopefully will post some picts.
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After careful attempt to fix, I broke it. It was defective anyway so thought I would post some pictures of the dissection of a Coleman 530 A46 stove Air Fuel tube.
The inner tube IS threaded into the nut. Note: the end was heated up and glowing red hot but still didn't fall off. I snapped it off then bent the top to release the outer tube from the nut. The small piece that was in the bottom fell down my bathroom sink drain when I dunked all hot pieces in a sink full of cold water. So the end of the inner tube is not in the photos.

Here are pictures, enjoy!
1.jpg  2.jpg  3.jpg  Magnification of inner and outer tube ends.jpg 

PS, does anyone have an extra Air Tube for a Coleman 530 stove? 

/cry  
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What stove is it for? Some of us just happen to have boxes of parts sitting around collecting dust.
It's priceless until someone puts a price on it.
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Gunhippie wrote:
What stove is it for? Some of us just happen to have boxes of parts sitting around collecting dust.

Coleman 530 stove..
The nut threads on the Air Fuel tube is the same diameter as the outer tubes diameter. A 220 lantern thread diameter is wider.. With that in mind it can be easier to spot if you have one 🙂 
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The only 530 FA tube I have is in my 530.

Put a WTB up in the classifieds. I'm betting someone has one.
It's priceless until someone puts a price on it.
Walk a mile in a man's shoes before you criticize him--then you're a mile away, and he has no shoes.
Texan's last words: "Y'all--hold my beer--I wanta' try sumptin'."
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Gunhippie wrote:
The only 530 FA tube I have is in my 530.

Put a WTB up in the classifieds. I'm betting someone has one.

Thank you ! 🙂



UPDATE:
Gunhippie,
update! Turns out the 530 stove uses the same FA Tube as the 200A! I ordered 1 on the OCP website 😉 
Thank you again!
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Yea I know I'm late for the party....though specific's to the F/A tube's internal part, that F/A tube could've been salvaged. But way too late for that now.

Reason why I know this, is because I encountered basically that same problem/situation.

Click on the link provided, it's basically a thread about it all and reference, specifically, post #90 & #97 for details.

https://www.colemancollectorsforum.com/post/220e-ok-where-did-i-go-wrong-or-did-not-do-right-7254494?&trail=100

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Lanterndude wrote:
Yea I know I'm late for party....though specific's to the F/A tube's internal part, that F/A tube could've been salvaged. But way too late for that now.

Reason why I know this, is because I encountered basically that same problem/situation.

Click on the link provided, it's basically a thread about it all and reference, specifically, post #90 & #97 for details.

https://www.colemancollectorsforum.com/post/220e-ok-where-did-i-go-wrong-or-did-not-do-right-7254494?&trail=100

Ahh so relieving to know someone else that experienced this exactly!.
Did you end up re using yours, or did you use the new part?
Do you still have your inner /outer tubes? I wonder if I can tap out the threads of mine in the nut and put your inner tube into mine, cut the end to length.. aka repair mine for sh..ts and giggles. 😉 

My threads broke off, your thread just seemed to unscrew out.
What the inner tube end was suposed to look like.jpg 

The replacement part 200-1481 was not exactly correct for my 530 stove. It had a smaller hole on the end, shorter length.

Now I have sent (200-1481) it back (I paid postage back, all is good with OCP and myself).. and I have got one (an original AF Tube coming to me from a member here.. so I won't need to repair it, But it would be fun to try!

I was thinking of just getting either another AF Tube, switching the ends with my end... cutting to length.. using a flair tool.. then drill the 2 holes. I can press it back in, pinch it into place but the hard part would be the inner tube.. threading it.

So if you still have your inner tube I wonder if it is the same diameter, it has threads on it. I probably just need to cut to length .
I'm wondering how far in the bottom cap, the inner tube goes down. Wonder if it touches the bottom or is 1/8" or 1/16" off the bottom. Curious.. if you still have it you could measure it for us to know.. because if one needed to manually rebuild or remake one, it would be good info to know.

😃

I'm so glad you had the same issue as me! I like your picts. 
Thanks for commenting!
Two AF Tubes.jpg

PS I give you credit on the threads of the inner tube discovery! 😃
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