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After spraying a 228 frame with Easy-off and letting it sit for about 30 minutes, the uprights started to pop off the frame and upper ring. Did the Easy-off cause this?
Any good tutorials on how to repair these?
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Carlton - 9/73
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ecblanks
So you don't think the easy-off is the culprit?
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Phredd
not sure that easyoff should not unweld a weld unless it was really weak and bad to start with.....

and you should be able to repair with a simple spot weld. know anyone with a spot welder?

Phredd

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ecblanks
Depends on what the material is/was. I've watched it eat the hell out of some aluminum
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Hot Diggity
I've got my cookie cutter spot welder.  We could try that.
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Phredd
Should be easy. I did one about two years ago.  Unfortunately my friend with the spot welder moved to Montana (to start a dental floss farm.... 😉

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ecblanks
My brother h, who  lives in town has a flux core welder and can probably tack it up pretty easily. The original weld is done very neatly and just don't want it to look like crap
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zoomkat
I haven't measured the running temperature in that spot on a lantern, but it may be cool enough to use a good grade of soft solder. If it runs hotter than the melt temp of the soft solder (with some margin), then one might use some 56% silver solder. A small butane torch might provide sufficient heat since the metal mass there is small.
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Hey Kevin, about your friend's dental floss farm. First reference I've seen of Frank Zappa on this forum.
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campinut
If supports extend past the lip of lip? You can remove and pop rivet them together? Make sure you use rivet gun from the inside as the globe should ride close to the supports..campinut.
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Chucker
One good zap with wire flux welder does it. I've also brazed one with a torch and solder. 

If you don't like the looks of the weld you can always use a Dremel with grinding tip to smooth it out. 

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ecblanks
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For the lower upright I could see solder working, but not for the upper.  I would think that would get way too hot.  I'll give the weld a try.  Can't imagine that won't work, though ugly.
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Chucker
I would agree Carlton - no solder where they connect at the top. It was a bottom solder when I did it. Just hit the weld on the inside and they will rarely be seen by anyone but you. 
Chuck
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ecblanks
I'm still really concerned that the easy-off did this.  In fact I'm probably gonna shoot it again focusing on the good one and see if they come off.  This frame is not very rusty at all despite what you see in the bottom of it.  I've probably done 100 frames , most rustier in than this one, almost all in vinegar and had no problems.  I do one with Easy-off and I pop two uprights.  Easy off is corrosive, particularly to aluminum, so if the "wrong" metal was used in the weld/braze then absolutely it could eat it off (cleanly, too, I might add.  Which this appears to be). 
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ecblanks
Just doing some reading on a tool repair forum and there is concern that lye can destroy a carbide braze.  That said, I have soaked frames in pure lye:water over night without issue.  This is the first time I've used easy-off.  OF course doesn't explain why only 2 joints of the 8 came loose. 
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ecblanks
Disregard.  Just had a chat with the PO and he said those joints were already popped.  I may just delete this thread.  Sorry to waste everyone's time.
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Chucker
Well, some probably have had the same issue and now you and others have provided a 'fix' for them. No harm done. 
Chuck
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zoomkat
If one considers using a flux wire welder to join the pieces, they should practice tack welding together some strips of a metal food can first and see how well that works. I'd recommend trying solder first. I'd try the below solder as you shouldn't damage the soldered pieces on repeated attempts if needed. The solder paste shows being available at my local store, so it should be at most stores.

https://www.homedepot.com/p/SOLDER-IT-Silver-Bearing-Solder-Paste-SP-7/300916097

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Lincoln-Electric-Solder-Stay-Brite-Kit-with-Flux-SBSKPOP/100672838
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salukispeed
I have access to a  spot welder from time to time but nothing now.   I believe the pieces were originally spot welded. Might be a metal working shop near you with one. Smallest amount of affected area and usually solid result.  I believe many/most auto body shops have them for attaching panels.  I have thought about purchasing one but not quite enough need. 
Might find one at St Alfonzo's pancake breakfast after a bit of trudging across the tundra.
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Phredd
Okay just one more...

If you find yourself trudging across the tundra... don't eat the yellow snow!

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>>If you find yourself trudging across the tundra... don't eat the yellow snow!

Apparently yellow snow is not always a bad thing.



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scl
i have wire welded 2 of those 220 frames and had good results. i just go around the edges of the straps.
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Mister Wilson
Is that a real lantern, or a Sears lantern?
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salukispeed
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Is that a real lantern, or a Sears lantern?

So very appropriate here
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ecblanks
Is that a real lantern, or a Sears lantern?

Ouch!  228D. Update: I'm probably going to just soft weld this then make an electric out of one of my busted D founts.  That gives me the option to wire weld it later on if i require it.
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