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DougA
I have come to the conclusion that my dad was a closet Coleman addict, [wink]  I have already documented the fettling of the family's collection of lanterns that were at our cottage "forever" and now have all five of those restored to full operation.

Recently I got to thinking/remembering that there were always these two Coleman lanterns hanging way up high on the back wall of the garage of my folks' house, where I grew up.  I always knew they were there, never saw them in use, and never knew the story about them.  I don't know if they were my dad's or if they were even left behind by the previous owners of the house.  I checked with my mom just now and she said she had no idea where they had come from, just that they were always in the garage.

Today I retrieved those from the old garage.  They're not in as pristine condition as the cottage collection, having been in the damp detached garage for the 50 years that my parents have owned the house.  It's a 243A and a 242C, pix below.  The 243 has no globe and the globe on the 242 is cracked, dammitallanyway -- the crack is visible in the photo.  But, they appear to be otherwise complete and should be restorable.

242c-01.jpg  243a-01.jpg 

Dates are legible on both.  The 243A shows 1  11, and the 242C shows 4  11.  Interesting that they are both November, as is our 200A, looks like it's our lucky month for Coleman lanterns or something.  So, begs the question is the 1 1931 or 1941 on the 243 and is the 242's 4 1934 or 1944?  Seems like it wouldn't be 1944 since that was in the middle of WWII.

After I got the before pix above I started disassembling the 243.  It came apart fairly easily and I have the frame, vent and collar soaking in Evaporust.  The pump's leather is in decent condition, but was dried out and wouldn't pump, so that's soaking in some oil.  The fuel cap's gasket is of course no good so between that and the pump not pumping I don't know how well the fount holds air.

It's a mess, though.  Below are a few more pix of its "before" state:

243a-02.jpg 
243a-03.jpg 

The pricker rod in the generator is a black, lacquered mess, and you can see the black goo on the valve work's brass.  But, the valve operates and the F/A rod retracts.  The F/A tube is another mess, having a layer of whitish something all over it.  The fount was empty, so no rotting or lingering old fuel.

These lanterns will be a bit of work, but the founts appear to be sound and everything but the globes seem to be in place so I should be able to get them going again.

I think, though, this is the last of the Coleman lanterns squirreled away here and there by my dad,   maybe ...

[wink]
DougA  ... fettler and keeper of a family collection of nickel: a 249, a pair of 237s, and a 1938 228B, along with a late 1979 red 200a.  Then two more turned up, a 1941 243A and a 1944 242C, and now there's a b-day 200A lantern, too!.
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BLandis
That looks a lot like how my 242c was when I found it, encased in dirt nests and then tarnished/stained/grimed over so badly I didn't realize it was nickel instead of greasy paint. I bet they both clean up gorgeously. Shame about the globe though!

Brian, The Eternal Noob

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bigfrank97
You will be surprised at how nice the 243 will clean up.  Take your time on the collar and frame. 
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Guff
Two very nice lanterns, and should clean up good.
The 243A would be dated Nov. 1941, and the 242C would be Nov. 1944.

Keith.
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cosmogs
Oh my, you really got some great family items! Looking forward to see them all cleaned up. [thumb]


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Vikingson_1
Great fettling projects!
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Wildbirder
Those both look to have great paint! nice story.
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DougA
There's some progress to report in the fettling of these latest family lanterns.  I soaked the frame, collar, bail and vent of the 243 in Evaporust for about a day and a half and they came out great.  Today I started working on cleaning up the brass on the valve assembly, and took the F/A tube apart and cleaned the rod in there.  After seeing how the frame and collar cleaned up I just had to put some of it back together to see how it looks, [wink]  Photo below of how the parts look now.  Everything is together hand tight so it's not clocked where it should be and all that:

243a-05.jpg  243a-06.jpg 

Compare those shots to the as-found before pix above ... wow.  Gotta love Evaporust!

Since I have the Evaporust out I then took the 242 apart to get its frame and collar soaking.  This frame is a bigger mess than the 243's was:

242c-02.jpg 

I also found that the 242 was clocked strangely:

242c-03.jpg 

So it looks like it may have been worked on in its past some time.  Since I know nothing about these I can only guess.

There's still a ways to go with both of these lanterns, not the least of which is getting new generators and globes for them.   Still lots more cleanup stuff to do, too.  There'll be more pix as the project continues.
DougA  ... fettler and keeper of a family collection of nickel: a 249, a pair of 237s, and a 1938 228B, along with a late 1979 red 200a.  Then two more turned up, a 1941 243A and a 1944 242C, and now there's a b-day 200A lantern, too!.
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wpnaes
Good progress!
Sean
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DougA
The fettling of these latest lanterns from the family collection is proceeding, though at a somewhat slower pace due to work and yard work and life in general.

The various rusty bits were soaked in Evaporust and came out great.  The collar of the 243 was barely readable before, but afterward it looked almost new:

243collar.jpg 

The frame of the 242 was quite a mess and the Evaporust once again had that looking much better than how it started:

242c-04.jpg 

The valve works of the 243 was quite the blackened mess, which has me wondering if it leaked and/or overheated, but it has also cleaned up rather well:

243valve.jpg 

So the 243 is just about ready to reassemble.  The fount looks really clean inside so I think all it will need is a CF rinse and that will be good to go.  This afternoon I replaced the gasket on the 243's fuel cap so all I need is my order from OCP with the new generator, globe and burner screen.  USPS says it's somewhere between Mike and me, [wink]

Oh, and the founts have cleaned up fairly well.  The 242's looks great!  I used some rubbing compound and it came back to life.  The paint on the 243's fount is badly checked and chipped and I think will be a candidate for a repaint sometime in the future.  For now I am leaving it as-is.

242243founts.jpg 

So there should be a light-up of the 243 coming before too long!
DougA  ... fettler and keeper of a family collection of nickel: a 249, a pair of 237s, and a 1938 228B, along with a late 1979 red 200a.  Then two more turned up, a 1941 243A and a 1944 242C, and now there's a b-day 200A lantern, too!.
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dwillie
243 looks great. way above average as far as paint gos. I would leave it, as it will never look as good as it does IMO. Great stuff!!!
Darien.
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Tigerfans2
neither of my 243's have that much paint, I'd leave it be
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Pete McNulty
Fantastic work! love the pics. Thanks for sharing.
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Guff
Well done, they are looking great now. I also like to leave the original paint be, but it's what you like that counts.

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mikew
WOW!  Great job on the cleanup.  Like others have said, I would keep that original paint.
Mike
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Matty
This is a really cool topic.

Reading the history and mystery surrounding the lamps and watching them come to life with great photos is, well, cool.
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Matt98B5
I also vote for keeping the paint as-is on both - they are in really good shape, and show a lot of great character without looking trashed.

I also have a green painted fount November 1944 242C, and I love it!  I have just brought it back to working condition, have not fully cleaned it up.  Basically wiped it down, new cap gasket, oiled the pump, and was up and running!  I love these things!  I especially like the fact that the painted fount ones were from WWII years, so even though they are not military equipment, there is still cool history there.  The "new and improved" painted and steel parts were used because of the relative scarcity of nickel and brass during the war.

For cleaning up the brass valve parts, did you use vinegar and a wire brush, or some polishing compound?  It looks great now!

That evaporust worked great on the frames and collars!  I have not used it before, but have had similar results with electrolysis, ending up with bright clean metal when there was just a tarnished corroded mess to start with!

Great work, and thanks for all the wonderful pictures!
Matt

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DougA
Thanks for all the great comments.  I am not repainting anything right now, and definitely not the 242; that is in great condition.  The 243's paint is not great, and doesn't really show up how bad it is in the pix.  Also the pix are of its "good" side, lol.  The other side has a pretty good fuel stain where the main valve must have leaked at some time and won't clean up.  I tried lacquer thinner and the rubbing compound and nothing touches it.  I am leaving it for now. 

As for cleaning up the brass, I first wipe with lacquer thinner to get the worst of the enameled crud off, then follow with 0000 steel wool and Blue Magic polishing compound.  

My parts order from OCP arrived today so the project can move forward, though this is a busy week and the weekend will be active as well so I am not sure when I will get the 243 all back together.  Definitely over Thanksgiving weekend if not before.
DougA  ... fettler and keeper of a family collection of nickel: a 249, a pair of 237s, and a 1938 228B, along with a late 1979 red 200a.  Then two more turned up, a 1941 243A and a 1944 242C, and now there's a b-day 200A lantern, too!.
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DougA
The 243 lives again!  This afternoon I was finally able to give the fount a rinse and reassemble everything.  The lantern has a new generator and burner screen, along with a China (boo) globe.  Everything back together, mantle tied on and burned and away we went:

243a-07.jpg  243a-08.jpg 

Only problem is the main valve leaks at the packing.  I suspected that it might, given the sticky mess the entire valve brass work was when I found the lantern, and the crusty mess on the fount below the main valve.  When I ordered the globes and gennies for the 243 and 242 I also ordered a new valve packing, except that I managed to forget that I ordered it, so I never retrieved it from the OCP box and tossed the styro peanuts and the packing into the trash and didn't realize it until (of course) after the trash went out.  [sFun_duh2]  Errgh.  I tried tightening the valve a little which helped some, but it still leaks when the valve is wide open.  I even got a little fire from it to make life interesting!

Bottom line is the 243 lives again in the month of its 74th birthday (!), but it's not quite ready for prime time until I get the leaky valve packing replaced.
DougA  ... fettler and keeper of a family collection of nickel: a 249, a pair of 237s, and a 1938 228B, along with a late 1979 red 200a.  Then two more turned up, a 1941 243A and a 1944 242C, and now there's a b-day 200A lantern, too!.
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Scouter_Angus
I like the look of a clean but beat-up 243. They were meant to be workers, not pretty-boys, and it is a testament to their economical design. A 243 or 243A is like an old pair of faded blue jeans, with the odd oil stain and a smear of sealant, frayed at the cuffs, and patches on the knees. Still sound, still usable, and very, very comfortable.

Please don't paint!
Angus

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Porky
It would be so neat to know the history of the lanterns. They are in good hands now.
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Mike
You might want to try some Mother's polish on the fount staining on the 243. You might surprised at the results as it gently lifts the rust and grunge stains in that top layer of old paint. Some polishing compound for car finishes will work as well. Go slow and keep checking the cloth to see what's coming off.

The chips in the vent, minor pitting in the steel, and paint flaws are all in keeping with each other. Main thing is it's super clean and running and well-cared for. Personally, I wouldn't repaint but YMMV!

Great restoration!

Mike. 
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DougA
I am not going to repaint the 243.  With the condition of the vent it would look out of place to have a pristine fount.  I will look into the Mother's polish and see what it can do for the fount.  I tried a car rubbing compound on the fuel crust on the fount and it didn't touch it, though it did clean up the rest of the fount.  The polish I have been using on everything is the Blue Magic which I understand isn't as aggressive as Mother's, which is probably what I need for this one.

As always, thanks for all the comments!  I was working on the brass work for the 242 last night getting that all cleaned up.  I need to replace the gasket on the 242's fuel cap and give that fount a rinse and that should be about ready to put back together.
DougA  ... fettler and keeper of a family collection of nickel: a 249, a pair of 237s, and a 1938 228B, along with a late 1979 red 200a.  Then two more turned up, a 1941 243A and a 1944 242C, and now there's a b-day 200A lantern, too!.
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SteveK
Scouter_Angus wrote:
I like the look of a clean but beat-up 243. They were meant to be workers, not pretty-boys, and it is a testament to their economical design. A 243 or 243A is like an old pair of faded blue jeans, with the odd oil stain and a smear of sealant, frayed at the cuffs, and patches on the knees. Still sound, still usable, and very, very comfortable.

Please don't paint!


Gee wiz Angus you paint, cause you painted a mighty nice picture with them there words. ;-) Were you a writer in a previous life? You make me want to go out and find a 243 to hang in my garage!

So I guess I am giving Angus a +1

Doug, those are both nice little lanterns, you should be proud to own both. Id sure like to know the story of how the got in your childhood garage to begin with.
Steve

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DougA
SteveK wrote:
Doug, those are both nice little lanterns, you should be proud to own both. Id sure like to know the story of how the got in your childhood garage to begin with.


Yeah, I would, too.  Same thing with the other lanterns in the family collection.  Most I have a decent idea of what/where etc. but the nickel 249 was a complete surprise.

With this 242 and 243 the more I think on it, I suspect they may have been left behind by a previous owner of the house.  I think that if they were my dad's, or had been my grandfather's, they would have been in the workshop in the cellar inside the house.  Also, with the years these are from, my dad would have been fairly young, esp. that 1941 243.  Dad was only 7 years old in 1941.  Yes, they could have been my grandfather's, but with the nickel lanterns that I know for sure were Grandpa's these painted guys don't quite fit.  My grandfather didn't skimp on stuff and I can't quite see him buying these "economy model" lanterns, esp. at a time that was before he was into the fishing expeditions he did that came after WWII, which is when most of the nickel lanterns are from.

It's all speculation, of course, but this is what is making sense to me.  It's too bad that I didn't get into all this lantern stuff before my dad died to get all the answers.
DougA  ... fettler and keeper of a family collection of nickel: a 249, a pair of 237s, and a 1938 228B, along with a late 1979 red 200a.  Then two more turned up, a 1941 243A and a 1944 242C, and now there's a b-day 200A lantern, too!.
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DougA
The 242C breathes fire again!  I spent some quality time yesterday cleaning up the brass and other little parts leaving only a fount rinse and fuel cap gasket replacement left to do.  The gasket was rather crusty so I had to heat it up with the heat gun to get it loosened.  All the others I have done so far I was able to dig out as-is, but this one was really set up like concrete.

The heat treatment of course made short work of that so the new gasket went on, the fount got rinsed out a few times and reassembly began.

242c-05.jpg  242c-07.jpg 


A close-up of the collar and brass work:
242c-06.jpg 

All back together with a new globe and ready for a mantle:
242c-08.jpg 

And finally, the money shot.  I have no idea when this lantern last saw fire, but I know it was definitely more than 50 years ago:

242c-09.jpg   242c-10.jpg 

This lantern didn't leak around the valve like the 243 did, though there was a small drip at the cleaning lever when I first started it.  I kept an eye on it and it didn't continue so perhaps something needed to reseat.  I let it run on the porch railing while I puttered with a few things in the yard so the mantle could be burned in well.

So, this now brings the family collection up to seven lanterns, eight with the Bernzomatic Portalight "profane" lantern.  Neat stuff!!
DougA  ... fettler and keeper of a family collection of nickel: a 249, a pair of 237s, and a 1938 228B, along with a late 1979 red 200a.  Then two more turned up, a 1941 243A and a 1944 242C, and now there's a b-day 200A lantern, too!.
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DougA
The 243 is ready for prime time!  I ordered another valve packing from our host -- as I mentioned earlier, I inadvertently tossed the other one I bought in the trash with the other packaging in the box -- and this afternoon I set into replacing it.  The procedure went fairly smoothly and I was able to remove and replace the burner frame without breaking the mantle.  Back outside to the patio and I touched 'er off and ... no leaks.  There was just a hint of a little seepage when I first opened the valve all the way after the generator heated up but it didn't last too long and never leaked after that.  I had the 243 pumped up really well and she ran beautifully.  I let it run a half hour or so to burn in the mantle, which I couldn't do the last time I lit it with the leaking valve and burning fuel.  [sSc_wowoh]

The money shot.  It's a real retina burner now:

243a-09.jpg 


DougA  ... fettler and keeper of a family collection of nickel: a 249, a pair of 237s, and a 1938 228B, along with a late 1979 red 200a.  Then two more turned up, a 1941 243A and a 1944 242C, and now there's a b-day 200A lantern, too!.
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