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Erwin
Hi hollow wire friends.
I bought my first hollow wire lamp at the ICCC convention in Michigan in 2014. It's a not very common AGM #408 chandelier and I've been working on it every now and then since then. After some difficult repairs (both cleaning needles were broken off among others) I was now ready to do the test run.
I pressurised the lamp only to see if there still were any leaks. Indeed there were two at the connecting pipes just above the burners. I tried to tighten the joints even better but the pipe twisted at the upper end instead of the lower one and finally broke one of the cast decored parts. Nowe I'm in big trouble. :-(((((
Would anyone have a replacement part for me?
I'll post more pictures of the whole thing once its going.
Thanks, Erwin.

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Chucker
Hello Erwin. I was there in 2014 as well. I didn't make a deal like you did however. 

What a shame with that part. I would PM SteveRetherford on this. I know he has many Coleman early examples but I'm not sure about AGM. 

Then again, others may see this and be able to help also.

Oh, thank you for the work you did on the Petromax technical cleaning instructions on cleaning and restoration of the 829. I think that was you anyway. Those instructions on the interweb have been very helpful. 
Chuck
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rags
Hello from Illinois Erwin. Just a thought, if no luck finding a replacement part you may want to try to find a welding shop to repair the elbow for you. At this point you don't have much to loose. A shop with a tig welder & a good operator may be able to grind out the split, heat & close the gap then weld it up. May have to re-tap the threads and either paint or have re-plated but you would still have the original piece.

Brent

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SteveRetherford
i dont have anything like this . might be easier to find a brass elbow at a hardware store , n get the arm brazed on to it .
[DrSteve2]    Steve , Keeper of the Light !!!
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Erwin
Hi fellas.
It's been a long time since I fettled my AGM chandelier.
I've tried to find a replacement elbow to finalize my AGm with no luck so far.
Hence a new try today: Would anybody have an extra part for me?
Please let me know.
Thanks, Erwin.

P.S.: Brent: I was at a reapir shop but the owner said it is some kind of softer metal (no steel, some alloy) and can't be welded. :-(((
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Whitegas Extraordinaire
Erwin
Edited due to my Incompetence!
TY
Kevin
I frighten easily!

My current shade is Coleman!!

To me a lamp without a shade is creepy!

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Erwin
Hi Kevin.

Thanks for your quick reply.
What do you mean by "fully sealed"?
It has inside (female) threadings on both sides. That's all I know.
Unfortunately I don't have means to measure the pitch but as far as  know AGM has used the same part for several models.

Thanks again, Erwin.
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Whitegas Extraordinaire

Erwin
I reread your post and pardon my incompetence!
In terms of identifying the threads, how go they compare to a Coleman burner tube, BSPT pipe, NPT pipe, etc? What is the OD and how many threads per inch?
It looks strikingly similar to a plated brass elbow available here new! These plumbing fittings may be correct, or close enough to drill and tap. Then braze the decoration on the new part.
I would love to see a complete picture!
Thank you
Kevin

I frighten easily!

My current shade is Coleman!!

To me a lamp without a shade is creepy!

ICCC # 1865

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Whitegas Extraordinaire
BTTT
I frighten easily!

My current shade is Coleman!!

To me a lamp without a shade is creepy!

ICCC # 1865

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Erwin

??? [huhsign]
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GeraldJP
Back to the top.

I believe.
Gerald

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Erwin
I’m hoping you can ID the threads! 

Thank you!
Kevin

I frighten easily!

My current shade is Coleman!!

To me a lamp without a shade is creepy!

ICCC # 1865

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Erwin
Sorry Kevin, I've no chance since I'm in Germany and don't have the right tools.
My only hope is that someone will have a replacement part for me.... sometime....
[waitingNEW]
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Whitegas Extraordinaire
Erwin wrote:
Sorry Kevin, I've no chance since I'm in Germany and don't have the right tools.
My only hope is that someone will have a replacement part for me.... sometime....
[waitingNEW]

Erwin based on this thread about making lamp shades you have the tool required to figure this out, your Gehrin!
 Get a cheap caliper and thread pitch gauges or compare to known parts of other GPA and or items from the hardware store.
https://www.colemancollectorsforum.com/post/lamp-shade-making-3517460?pid=33996688&highlight=making+shades
Thank you!
Kevin
I frighten easily!

My current shade is Coleman!!

To me a lamp without a shade is creepy!

ICCC # 1865

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Whitegas Extraordinaire

Erwin
I know why that looks so familiar to me. I bought this a while back but won’t have it in my possession for another week or two. Looks very similar!

I might be able  to help! Note this lamp is complete so I won’t have the part but hopefully we can compare some measurements and I will break it down if need be. This may open up other opportunities if the P66 matches.
TY
Kevin

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I frighten easily!

My current shade is Coleman!!

To me a lamp without a shade is creepy!

ICCC # 1865

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Erwin
Kevin,
thanks for the picture. I think it is exactly the right part.
I assume it was used by AGM on several models.
Would be nice to find somone with a box of extra parts... 
Erwin.
My homepage: http://www.eschaefer.de
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Whitegas Extraordinaire
Erwin wrote:
Kevin,
thanks for the picture. I think it is exactly the right part.
I assume it was used by AGM on several models.
Would be nice to find somone with a box of extra parts... 
Erwin.

Maybe you’ll get lucky and my lamp has a junk fount! From looking at Terry Marshes site I’m confident it’s the same but the single AGM hollow wire light is what is mentioned not a chandelier!
Thank you
Kevin
I frighten easily!

My current shade is Coleman!!

To me a lamp without a shade is creepy!

ICCC # 1865

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Erwin
Kevin,
this is the rare bird I'm talking about.
I've repaired everything and even a friend soldered 2 new pricker wires into the holders.
I was finally testing it when I found some small leaks and overtightened one pipe. 😖
agm408-chandelier.jpg 
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Whitegas Extraordinaire
Erwin wrote:
Kevin,
this is the rare bird I'm talking about.
I've repaired everything and even a friend soldered 2 new pricker wires into the holders.
I was finally testing it when I found some small leaks and overtightened one pipe. 😖

Erwin.
That’s a nice piece. I see you have patience! All good things come to those that wait, in this case!
Thank you!
Kevin
I frighten easily!

My current shade is Coleman!!

To me a lamp without a shade is creepy!

ICCC # 1865

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Erwin

Hi folks.
I'm asking your opinions again today.
I'd posted a request for a replacement knee in the classifieds section but with no success so far.
Kevin is trying to find a standard knee from a HW store to replace my broken one but even that is a challenge.
Today I took some pliers and squeezed the part (more or less) back into shape.
It would definitely be better to solder / braze the gap but a metal worked said they can't do it with this (zinc....?) alloy.
Now I'm thinking about threading the burner back into the knee and generously seal it with tread locker (245 blue).
I've used that on the AGM 2572 I'm still working on and I think it gets real hard and seals good.
The packaging says: Optimum temperature for operation is -55°F to 75°F (149°C).
Would you think it would work that way? The mechanical load from the burner to the knee shouldn't be that much.
Even if the knee was not broken I'd probably use thread sealer anyway since there are so many connections prone to leaking and it should withstand the temperature coming up from the burner even in that case.
Opinions?
Thanks, Erwin.

P.S:
I can't upload an image right now. Can do later if neccessary but I think the image in posting no.1 gives you an idea.
Thanks.

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salukispeed
Fuel under pressure so close to the mantles and burner would scare me  as the mechanical connection is compromised too. . Not me. Good luck Be safe. 
Bob
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