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D421
made this little vise to keep the blood loss to a minimum when working on one piece caps.
Used a 1 inch bit with a piece of a pain stick for a spacer.
Dominic
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D421
Paint stick. Not pain stick.  
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GoCamping
Dom, Really great idea - thanks for sharing 👍
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25 502s
Great idea!!
Jason
not looking for any more Bday gpas. Honestly, if you have a 10-72 don’t let me know about it.
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surffisher60
good idea,  thanks for sharing. 

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Tgarner01
Good idea. I despise one piece caps... But there are certain GPAs that just don't look right without the originals.
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Tigerfans2
Not as fancy and not my idea:

Stuck cacp taker offer and finger saver (heater hose and clamp)

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stoves1234
That's a great idea. Some of the guys on this forum have a technique that they say works great for removing one-piece cap gaskets. I always end up digging them out piece by piece while holding the cap with padded pliers. 
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D421
Jim
I also seem to have best luck just picking out pieces until I can at least grab an end.
Dominic
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Ridge Runner
I like that! Plenty of meat to hold onto while picking and swearing at that little PITA thing.

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Chucker
Super idea. Like it. 
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outlawmws
I love the original concept, but I think I would have saved the clamp and made jaw extensions to use in it...
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Bumpkin 95
I like it. and when dealing with one piece caps the pain stick typo might very well be accurate 
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Flyboyfwa
D421 wrote:
Paint stick. Not pain stick.  


I guess the difference is how well you behave.
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D421
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I felt kind of bad about what I did to that clamp. But it's a 4 dollar made in China clamp. I'm old and the government sent me money I didn't ask for, and because it's election year I bet they do it again. 

After thinking about it I decided to live it up.  

Dominic
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Gasman64
Nice idea; those caps are no fun...was thinking of using some type of wood block for the same thing, as I have no clamps like that.
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Rustytank
D421 wrote:
Paint stick. Not pain stick.  

I see your momma never whooped you with one!
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outlawmws
D421 wrote:
Outlaw
I felt kind of bad about what I did to that clamp. But it's a 4 dollar made in China clamp. I'm old and the government sent me money I didn't ask for, and because it's election year I bet they do it again. 

After thinking about it I decided to live it up.  

Dominic


Yeah, with Chicom, your forgiven  ðŸ˜‹  I don't have any that are not US made...

Since you are already there how about a 3/4 hole for the older small caps, and a small shallow hole for the 3 piece insert? (X2)
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fuel brained
D421 that is a pain stick to me. I'm left handed and when I was in grammar school my teacher would bang the back of my hand and tell me it's a right handed world.
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Bob1774
Nice idea!
I guess two pieces of wood, similarly drilled, to install in a bench vise would also work.
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D421
Flip side for three piece caps. Also proof I didn't waste a real Jorgensen clamp.
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dbosch
Best damn tip of the year

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StanDahl
dbosch wrote:
Best damn tip of the year 
ooh - that's something, coming from "Mr. Techtip" himself!
That is a terrific idea, I need to make a set of these, but all of my clamps are Jorgenson, so I'll use wood blocks that can be inserted into a clamp. No more tiny screwdrivers punching holes in my fingers!
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Gunhippie
What are you ruining? It will still work as a hand-screw with the cut-outs. Might mention that you used a Forstner bit for those! Don't want someone messing up a nice hand-screw using a spade or twist bit!

I just might do that to mine! I mostly use it for a hose clamp for radiator hoses and brewery stuff anyhow.

Pastor Jeff--As these require turning each screw in various and sometimes opposite directions, they're a universal right-left hand PITA!
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outlawmws
Timm you may not be aware of it, but Jorgensen folded up a year or so back.  Whatever is left on the shelves, or yard-sale finds will be all going forward.  I don't buy MIC unless there is no choice, and with tools I have choices...
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Gunhippie
My old hand screw is big--14" long--and has absolutely no markings. The screws have square wood handles, and all the wood is oak. Found at a yard sale years ago. That's all I know about it!

I used it this week to pinch off a glycol line while we worked on a fermenter. Did the job quite well and saved hauling five-gallon buckets of glycol all day. Glycol is considerably denser than water!

No pics as my computer is sick and can't handle pictures right now. Do computers get the Coronal virus?
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Dominic, thanks for posting this so we can all avoid further pain and suffering. If Coleman ever starts producing new items you should fit right in with their research and development department or engineering staff! I think you should be nominated for Coleman Collector Innovator of the Year award!

   Joe
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Gasman64
outlawmws wrote:
Timm you may not be aware of it, but Jorgensen folded up a year or so back.  Whatever is left on the shelves,

Oh, no, not them, too! Going to the HW store now...
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outlawmws
In my recent Lantern diagnostics Thread I added a reference to making this finger saver and now I've made one of my own as a maple block insert to a vise.   (one minor error but it still works so I'm leaving it for now...)

I made this to fit both the current caps, and the early small caps used before about 1950 or so.

You make the holder for the caps by boring a 1 and/or 3/4” hole in a block of wood about the depth of the caps, then sawing it in half lengthwise. The same block can be bored with shallow holes for the inserts at 3/4” and 9/16”. only about 1/8" deep of so. I literally did this depth by eye.

I used Foresnter bits for a clean cut and you want s nice hardwood for the blocks.

I used repurposed leftover maple from a maple coffee table I converted the top to for my inside the house workbench. these were the 3" "sides" under the top, 3/4" thick or so, and 5" is plenty for the length. (I've reused nearly every bit of the table at this point) Maple is nice as it it difficult to stain, (even on purpose), so if smooth its not going to be hard to clean... (My workbench top is unfinished Maple scraped smooth)

I also cross drilled the block before almost anything else with a 1/4" Brad point bit as it cuts clean like a Forstner bit. The Std length was just long enough to go almost all the way through the 3" block, which was enough to get into the (future) shoulder cut, so worked fine.


Forstner cuts:

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Cross drilling:

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This start for the shoulder was already there. I simply setup so I had the same cut both ways and "completed" the cut.

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All done! the sliding pins for the two halves were cut from the smooth shank of long 1/4" bolts I had around. Wood might be another option, but wood doweling would need sanded to slide smoothly in the bored hole, as its a tight fit.

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And setup with both sizes of caps and inserts -I jsut grabbed something handy and portable for a demo shot, (it's also the vise I held the block in for the 1/4" cross drilled holes):

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And here was my mistake; (I was using an old wood/brass Caliper (Fractional) and needed a magnifier for the small markings, and mistook 9/16ths for 5/8ths... [mad]

Cap and insert block f.jpg 


With the kerf for the split, (also needed so this clamps well) it still holds the small insert tight, do I'm leaving it. Maybe I'l make one "right" later and give this one to some deserving soul.
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D421
Outlaws

Nice work. You need to make a lable that reads  "no clamps were harmed in making this tool".

Oh and your work on that document is exellent.  
Dominic
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outlawmws
😂

And thanks!  Twice!
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bowenstudios
I'm gonna have to do this also with holes for all the differnt sizes, plus I may have a couple other ideas to make it a multi tool.

I promise not to use any of my good ones, but i have about 20 harbor freight ones i bought in school when cash was tight, when is it not, and i needed a bunch. Better tools are building in my studio now.
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Bob1774
Nice ideas!  Always better to have a tool to do the job safely, and efficiently rather than gouge out skin!  
A extra reward is you don't mar up the caps in a vise or pliers, as many times we find them that way.

I created a similar set up some years back when I needed to remove a burner tube from a 220B, that would not budge.  Being soft brass, it seemed almost impossible to grab/clamp it with anything that wouldn't destroy it.  So, I took a block of soft pine the length of a burner tube, and drilled a 1/2 inch hole through the center of the length.  Next, I cut it in half, which created two blocks of wood, with a 1/4 inch deep circular groove, minus the kerf thickness.  I was able to clamp these on the burner tube, and with some nudging and penetrating oils and heat to the manifold, it came loose without harm.
Another tip to add to your fettlebox!
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