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BSAGuy
Title says it all. I am trying to restore an Air Pilot for a friend.

i can’t figure out how to remove the spring loaded vent that sits on top of the globe from the lantern. 

The lantern needs a complete tear down for removing light rust and then repainting. 

Thanks for the help!
- Courtenay
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JimL
Courtenay,

I'll be following this thread because I'm not aware of wickies being designed for disassembly/reassembly like that.  Of course, when a top is severely bent, folks will do what's necessary to fix it.

If you want to just clean the rust, electrolysis does an amazing job on wickies.   For the solution, I now just use baking soda.   As you'll read on the forum, electrolyis is line of sight so won't clean anything farther away from the electrodes.  If you ignore that advice, electrolysis will clean the entire lantern without doing anything special.  For cleaning rust the inside of the fount, I leave the fuel cap and burner off.

-Jim

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Chucker
If it's just a rust issue up top you can invert the lantern and soak it in vinegar or citric acid (or electrolysis). Then once de-rusted hit it with high temp.

My wife liked an Elgin large cold blast (Embury for Sears I think) so I did just that - de-rusted, painted up inside with VHT red and the rest of the lantern the same color but with an Engine clear top coat. It looks as close to original color for that lantern that I could do with rattle cans.  
Chuck
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mikew
Some time back, I restored an old Paull's Leader wickie with electrolysis.  Came out well.  Repainted using the Duplicolor Chrysler Blue.  Did not completely disassemble - only removed the globe, fuel cap, and burner.
Paulls before.jpg  Paulls after.jpg 
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BSAGuy
Thanks for all the input so far.  I read on another site that the only way to completely disassemble a Dietz (I am sure all wickies are similar, if not identical) is to unbend the sheet metal tabs (4 for this one) that extend through the top to remove it and then you can access the spring loaded mechanism and the chimney.

I hate to not take this down 100% but I can do a serviceable job with it It without taking these tabs loose.  I am sure I could never get them back down as well as the factory did initially.
- Courtenay
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JimL
>>I hate to not take this down 100%m but I can do a serviceable job with it It without taking these tabs loose.  I am sure I could never get them back down as well as the factory did initially.

That's the key.   If it's not a basket case,  I don't think it would be worth considering tearing it down that completely, only to wish you had left it alone.  You should be able to get to the air tubes for cleaning from the burner.  Not easy, but doable.

-Jim

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Chucker
Right, wouldn't be factory or  if you tried bending those 60 year old (?) tabs and they all broke also. 
Chuck
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BSAGuy
Here are some photos so far.  Burner before and after vinegar soak, lantern after vinegar soak and brass brushing.  I now have it inverted to complete de-rusting the top.

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- Courtenay
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74HARLEY
Looks good so far!
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Chucker
Burner looks great! If you are a little apprehensive about soaking the upper in vinegar you could use Evaporust. Just an option. It's a little less aggressive IMO but works. Some folks find it pricey. 
Chuck
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BSAGuy
No worries on soaking the upper.  I was using a joint compound bucket for my vinegar/water and it was not quite tall enough to swallow the whole lantern.  I have it inverted now to complete the top.

The original color looked like sort of a light metallic green.  After some internet searches, I am going to get some Dupli-Color Honda Hampsted Green.  I think I can find some at a Pep Boys or AutoZone.
- Courtenay
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johneliot
Very nice!  I have been wanting one of those Air Pilots for a couple of years now.  I just haven't found one at a decent price.  

John

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Chucker
Good call on that Hampsted Green. I know exactly what you are talking about. I am going to be using that for my Tilley AL 620 inspection lantern. Got mine at NAPA. 
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BSAGuy
Hi Chuck,

Are you going to prime yours first?  I assume these weren't primed before painting at the factory, but I am thinking the Dupli-Color will work better with a primer.  I assume the color coat is formulated to adhere better to a primer than bare metal.

Your thoughts?
- Courtenay
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JimL
Be careful using a primer with Dupli-color unless you have Dupli-Color primer.  The instructions on the can warn of using another brand's primer as Dupli-Color may not be compatible and may lift other primers.  If you use another brand's primer, you may get to do the job twice.  🙂  

Also, if using Dupli-Color, I suggest wiping the bare metal down with alcohol and not water as they suggest.   The Dupli-Color paint itself is a dream to work with.

-Jim

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Chucker
I did not use a primer when I painted ours. I also often use alcohol to wipe down surfaces before painting. 

Using high heat, oil/gas resistant clear enamel is a good idea.
Chuck
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BSAGuy
If I use primer, definitely Dupli-color.  Anytime I paint, I always use products from same manufacturer.  Never mix them.  You gotta figure that each manufacturer takes a different approach to formulating their paints, primers, etc. and that their products are made to work in concert with each other.

Definitely a good denatured alcohol or acetone wipe before painting.
- Courtenay
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