200A and 202 reproduction
frames back
in stock.

cainlp
And I'm not talking about dinner and a  movie!

I acquired a 200A that the PO had possibly used as a boat anchor.  The best part on it is probably the vent nut.  I see no stamping on the bottom, but the Coleman logo is stamped into the side of the fount, but I don't see numbers on either side of the logo.

It has a screw on pump, 3-piece fuel cap, tall vent, and the collar says 200A.  It has a red letter Pyrex globe (with a piece broken out of the side for easy lighting).

Can anyone use these clues to try to zero in on a manufacture date.
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pongo
Can you post a picture? 
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cainlp
I was afraid someone would ask for that.  I'm embarrassed but I'll do it.
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Gunhippie
No 200 or 200A had a screw-on pump. Do you mean the pump cap is retained by two little screws?
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pongo
'59 was the last year for the screws on the pump.
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cainlp
Yes, pump cap is retained by screws.
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hikerduane
Should have numbers on the bottom.  Time to rub a little, not like you're gonna hurt it.
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cainlp
I scrubbed it up with a wire brush but see no evidence of print of any kind.  I've been playing with an electrolysis tank, so I may throw it in there.
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That is probably your best shot.
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Gunhippie
Do we get to start betting on whether it holds air?
It's priceless until someone puts a price on it.
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Chucker
Gunhippie wrote:
Do we get to start betting on whether it holds air?


You got that one right, wow. 
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mikew
Gonna guess mid 50s due to the screws in the pump cap and larger holes in the vent.  Also appears that the pump knob may be one of the blackened ones.
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cainlp
This thing may be good as a strainer in the kitchen.  But I have a soft spot for 200As.
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pongo
mikew wrote:
Gonna guess mid 50s due to the screws in the pump cap and larger holes in the vent.  Also appears that the pump knob may be one of the blackened ones.


I agree.
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pongo
cainlp wrote:
This thing may be good as a strainer in the kitchen.  But I have a soft spot for 200As.


I like the looks of this one. I hope it is sound and you can get it going.
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Gotta smile when something like this works.
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Ridge Runner
Evaporust on the bottom of the fount will bring out what you seek.

I'm guessing mid-late 50’s. If the vent is speckled, I’d lean closer to mid-50’s

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 If that font is solid, I would clear coat, redo the insides and run it.  I love the looks of a beat up old lantern and that one is a gem.  
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cainlp
Evaporust on the bottom of the fount will bring out what you seek.

I'm guessing mid-late 50’s. If the vent is speckled, I’d lean closer to mid-50’s


When the PO wasn't using this as a boat anchor, he was probably using it for light in his paint shop.  I'm guessing that the white paint speckles on the vent don't count toward the vent being speckled.
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cainlp
Oh, ye of little faith!  Pump works with whatever cup is in there, fuel cap seals with whatever gasket is in there, fount passes air at the bottom of the generator.  For a minute I thought I was going to be able to fire it right up.  But, no.  Trying to remove the generator, and I don't seem to be able to move it up into the air tube enough to free it from the tip cleaner.  Hmmm...
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I'm rooting for you. I really do like the looks of yours. I have a 4 of 53 Black  that is rough, but I love it.

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cainlp
Yours looks NIB compared to mine.  Something about the surface of the moon comes to mind when I look at my fount.  But, to it's credit, the vent is in pretty good shape with the usual rust spots on the welds, and dings on the edges.  If someone made a high heat red paint that I could afford, I'd spray some on and be done with it. 
If I can figure out how to get the generator out, I might have that thing running today.
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Luke, I sent you a p.m.
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Phredd
Was there fuel in the tank when you got it?  If so rust inside is probably minimal.  And the generator remove the nut holding down the frame and the hole frame will lift up over the generator.  

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cainlp
It's full of some sort of liquid.  Whether it's fuel, sea water, or a combination, is still to be determined.  By the way, generator is removed, now it looks like a tip cleaner job is required.
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Ridge Runner

cainlp wrote:


When the PO wasn't using this as a boat anchor, he was probably using it for light in his paint shop.  I'm guessing that the white paint speckles on the vent don't count toward the vent being speckled.

Lol, no actual paint specks don’t count.

I have a 6/55 that looks like it has fine white overspray all over the vent. But it’s actually in the porcelain finish. Here’s a pic of it:

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One of my 228E’s was so rusty I couldn’t make out the date stamp. I planned on repainting it so I gave it a good long de-rusting soak. After cleaning it up a bit the numbers were clear as day.

Good luck with whatever path yours takes you down!!

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cainlp
Ridge Runner:  Tell me that 10/15 birthday lantern you’re looking for is 2015. If not, put me down as impressed!
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Ridge Runner
cainlp wrote:
Ridge Runner:  Tell me that 10/15 birthday lantern you’re looking for is 2015. If not, put me down as impressed!

Ha! Yes, 2015. My son’s B-day.

Maybe I should edit that in my sig line. Might give me some better odds 🤣

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JimL
It's a 200, just remove the nut holding the frame on.  Then you'll have all the room in the world to remove the generator.  With the 200's, I always find it easier to just remove the frame.

-Jim

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Gunhippie
I'm betting that those aren't all paint spatters on the vent. Early-to-mid '50s had white speckles in the red porcelain:

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Very early--'50-'52(?) also had red speckles against the blue underside:

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cainlp
OK, got the generator removed.  Inspected the cleaning needle, and it's bent like a corkscrew.  Probably because the tip is clogged up with something.  Tried to straighten it out but it broke off.  Put in a needle from a 220, but I'm only getting a little bubble of fuel, not enough to keep the end of the generator lit more than a few seconds, even moving the cleaner handle back and forth gently.

I've ordered a new generator from Mike, but I'm as far away from him as you can get and still be in the United States, so I'm looking at the end of next week at best.  In the meantime, I may fire up the electrolysis tank on the frame and fount.  I've got some high heat silver that I may use on the frame if it comes out OK.  And the electrolysis will remove the paint from the fount.

Thanks for all of the help!
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Phredd
The pricker from a 220 is about one ten-thousandths too big. the tip on the 200A gennie should have a 6 stamped on it.  And the 220 should have a V stamp. But,  if it you can see the 220 pricker protrude out the end of the 200A generator it should work.  At least until you can buy a new one.

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Phredd
Oops. The pricker is one-thousandths too big not one ten-thousandths.  

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cainlp
Bent another pricker.  Tried it without a pricker, and I'm still not getting enough fuel to do the job.  I may empty out the fuel and try with fresh fuel.  Or be patient and wait for the mail.
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hikerduane
Should have cleaned the genny already and tried to see if fuel would squirt out before assembling other parts.  After fiddling with gennys, I usually have to work the pricker quite a bit, even down the road.  A good idea would be to read more about lanterns/stoves here to avoid issues and fix them.
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Gunhippie
When you had the gen apart, did you pass a stiff wire down from the tip end to see if there's a screen in there? Many older gens have them, and the only purpose they seem to serve is to destroy a pricker needle when putting them back together.
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JimL
>>Bent another pricker. 

If the blockage is bad enough to destroy one pricker wire, likely a second pricker wire won't do the job either.  I think Harbor Freight has brushes that use .007" wire and a piece of that wire would be a better choice to attempt to clear the obstruction than risking another pricker needle/wire.   If you have a charitable store such as Goodwill, it may be worth a trip to see if they have any jewelry ultrasonic cleaners for a few bucks. These things to a great job cleaning tips and one may even dislodge the obstruction.  If the obstruction is an old tip cleaning wire that broke off, it might be tougher, but doable.

Edit:  As Timm pointed out, if there's a screen in there, remove and toss it.  If there, most likely the tip isn't obstructed, but the screen is destroying the tip cleaning wires.

-Jim

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Gunhippie
And don't just look through the gen tube to see if a screen is in there. You usually can't see it. Just take the guts out, remove the tip, and run a stiff wire through from the top.
It's priceless until someone puts a price on it.
Walk a mile in a man's shoes before you criticize him--then you're a mile away, and he has no shoes.
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FYI  -Pricker wire resource:  Mandolin strings!  I got one I was removing and its either 5 or 6 thou 
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cainlp
I have a cleaning tool that I got from Mike several years ago.  I removed the tip from the generator and used it.  My patience foo is weak.  That creates many problems.  LOL  

And to hikerduane - I've been on here for 4-and-a-half-years and I still seem to have many questions.
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Mustardcheeseburger: Looks like New Old Stock to me.
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