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mudbox
A few weeks ago I picked up this rough looking AIDA Express from the marketplace.



Today, I started to break it down.  This thing has had a ROUGH life.  It had some mud dauber and paper wasps nests all up inside of it.  I'm really surprised that the original globe isn't smashed to bits. 





All in all, I'm surprised by how easy it was to dismantle.  Most everything will get soaked in the evaporust.  



Time to put some lipstick on this pig.

I need a good resource for parts.  Everything I've found has been in German... Is there a source for parts in the US?  
-Jason
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SteveRetherford
makes me wonder , we often see pics of long dead wasp nests , anyone ever encounter a live nest in one :-)
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JimL
Lipstick will pretty it up, but if it’s an Aida, it ain’t a pig.  🙂

For parts, you might first want to check with St. Paul Mercantile, then ByiteLyt.

-Jim

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Hot Diggity
Thanks for the tip on St. Paul Mercantile Jim.  They had exactly what I was looking for.  Schrader Valve Adapter
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Hot Diggity wrote:
Thanks for the tip on St. Paul Mercantile Jim.  They had exactly what I was looking for.  Schrader Valve Adapter

Very nice Chuck!
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Bob1774
You'll like that Aida Express once you get it figured out.  Having the schrader valve will help.  They are a bear to pump up with the original.
Some years back, I acquired one, and there is a good thread on my experiences and suggestions from members then. 
Here is the thread:    https://www.colemancollectorsforum.com/post/aida-express-1500-record-500cp-6857674?pid=1282706498#post1282706498


 post 19 has the link I mention below, so hopefully, one of them will work for you.  They're pretty intuitive to work on, just be aware of the lead washers, and don't force anything, or you'll wrench off the soft soldered fittings.  Note you can use a 9/16 inch bolt head as a feeler gauge for the spacer to set the burner.  It is within a .001 or so of the factory spec.  I also made my own pips, by punching out some Coleman fuel cap seals with a leather punch.

I hope this link works, it is an 18 page tutorial .pdf on how to tear down/restore the Aida 1500.  It's been awhile, and I didn't find it in the archives, but here is a link:    
http://www.eschaefer.de/hobbys/starkl/px-rest.pdf
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For parts, there's also Petromax.com  
https://www.petromax.com/products/light/
Just a note, not all Britelyt parts are compatible with Petromax.
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mudbox

I bought a parts kit from britlyt. Says it works for older Aida 500cp lanterns. 

https://britelyt.com/product/500cp-britelyt-petromax-parts-kit-w-leather-washer-part-1020-leather-500cp/

hopefully it works for me. 


thanks @Bob1774 for the links!  

-Jason
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Pancholoco1911
I had ordered from BriteLyt and they are good to go
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Hot Diggity
Jason, where's the pump leather and the lower nut?  If you can't see the check valve they're still in the pump bore.
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mudbox wrote:

I bought a parts kit from britlyt. Says it works for older Aida 500cp lanterns. 

https://britelyt.com/product/500cp-britelyt-petromax-parts-kit-w-leather-washer-part-1020-leather-500cp/

hopefully it works for me. 


thanks @Bob1774 for the links!  



it will. 
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I made everything myself. It wasn't rocket surgery. This website in particular was very helpful.
http://pressure-lanterns-il.com/tech-n-info/Petromax_technical/index.htm
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mudbox wrote:

I bought a parts kit from britlyt. Says it works for older Aida 500cp lanterns. 

https://britelyt.com/product/500cp-britelyt-petromax-parts-kit-w-leather-washer-part-1020-leather-500cp/

hopefully it works for me. 


thanks @Bob1774 for the links!  



I've used that parts kit as well and it works fine. I think their newest generation lanterns used some parts exclusive to Britelyt.
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mudbox
Hot Diggity wrote:
Jason, where's the pump leather and the lower nut?  If you can't see the check valve they're still in the pump bore.


Good eye. Yeah, still in the pump bore. I’ve got to fish them out somehow. 
-Jason
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mudbox
Well, I got some parts in from Britelyt this week.  So, I suppose it's time to get working on this thing again.  
I should have been polishing while I was waiting for parts, but you know, life and all.

I started with the fount.  I'm not finished with it yet, but I went from this:



To this with some penetrating oil and some 0000 steel wool:



To this with the help of some medium grit Scotch Brite polishing discs.  Still have some more polishing to go.



Thanks for looking.
-Jason
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GCinSC
Jason,

Been there, done that but no T shirt. Suggestion PRIOR to investing components into the project. Pressure test the fount.

If you have that schrader cap, put it on but don't install preheater or gen system yet. Go to hardware store and pick up two metric fine thread bolts that fit preheat and gen fittings. Then go to the rubber grommet tray and pick out two that the bolt threads into and is a close match to fitting neck. Save combo for next one you find. 

Grommets on bolts, thread into fount snug by hand. Fuel cap and new gasket. Now pressurize but I'd start with an air pump. Start easy and use dunk test or soap bubbles to test fount and fittings integrity. Yes, you're spending couple $ on bolts and grommets but saves lead and leather if the fount fails pressure leak test. Make sure to check bottom of fount for leaks too.

Gary

 
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mudbox
Thanks Gary, for the suggestion.  I had already pressure tested the tank and we're good to go.

What I didn't do, was order some mantles to go with the parts that I ordered.  So, here I am all dressed up with nowhere to go.

It's not the prettiest one on the block, but leaps and bounds better than the way I found it.













I'll be sure to post some more images when it's lit.
-Jason
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Smudge
Wow. That's an outstanding restoration job.
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GCinSC
If it's all together you can fuel it, pressurize it, watch for leaks or better bubble test all pressurized fittings and then go for pre-heat launch test run for a few seconds at least. 

Those loop generators can be clean and clear straight thru but the loop can be clogged up. IIRC I would use a q tip and block the center stem from the top just below the loop return port. Then low PSI air blown thru from the gen to valve seal and check for air flow. I had to replace one that had a strong restriction, just would not clean out. 

Looking good, mantles to follow and $$ shot.

Gary
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Looking good!
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So close!
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mudbox
Thanks guys, for the kind words.  
So close is right!  I'm kicking myself for not having ordered any mantles.  Talk about an oversight.
-Jason
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Really cool lantern and great job bringing it back. Be sure to update us when the mantles come in.
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mudbox

Longest I’ve ever had to wait for something from OCP. Word on the street is no overtime for the post office anymore. Which means delays. 

Delivery says Monday. So. Hopefully soon!
The wait is killing me!

-Jason
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You can get parts from Stuga Cabana, they do ship to the US and their parts are top notch. Use google translate to get through their website:

https://hytta.de/petromax/petromax-ersatzteile-fuer-500-HK-modelle,lst500.htm

Also here is the ultimate Petromax service manual, Print it or save it as a PDF, it will be very useful for you.

http://light.papo-art.com/tech-n-info/Petromax_technical/restore_pmax_content.html
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mudbox
FINALLY!  Time for some LIGHT!
I really can't believe the 'rapid preheater'!  AKA blowtorch... That thing is no joke.
Well, I made you guys wait long enough.  Here's some pics.









Talk about bright!  I'm a believer.

Thanks for looking.
-Jason
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Smudge
Thanks for posting the final result. Looks like she's a runner.
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GCinSC
Jason,

Congrats.

Things to keep an eye on. Make sure pricker projects slightly when valve is UP, the J tube manifold gap over the jet is correct and the manifold clamp screw is checked once in a while especially just after assy. if it gets loose and falls oh boy. The preheat flame looked a little lazy, pressure a bit low or one of the air jets still clogged under the preheat nozzle?

These can put on a show.

Gary 
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