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outlawmws
I wanted to start a comparison test for two coolers, since I have two that are similarly sized:

Ozark (Walmart) 26 qt. - a "YETI" wannabe
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A YETI 20!

The Ozark I have used just a few times since picking it up last year.

The latter was a gift a couple of weeks ago from a guy I work with. Brand new too! (I helped him land the largest deal in our companies history, and he made a ton on commission for that)

Cost-wise the YETI is more than 2X for this size, so no contest there.

Both are well built, the YETI probably a notch above, but not by a ton. Certainly not >2X...

Both use similar rubber latches, The Ozark's are tighter to release and latch, almost too much, but it keeps it closed for sure...

Both have pretty much bullet proof hinge systems, with the YETI using what looks like a thicker pin, maybe...(hidden the pin head seems bigger)

Both have a rubber gasket.

All in all, very similar...

But the real deal is how long each can hold ice. Its on the warm side this week so I placed a block of ice in each, - made from freezing a half gallon milk carton. These weigh about 3-3/4 lbs. (I was surprised, I expected it to be more)

Nothing else inside and placed side by side in my patio that has dappled shade all day.

I'l go until one has melted the block and weigh what is left for the winner.

I laid a flattened cardboard box over both, (just as I would cover my cooler if not under shade)

Its supposed to be in the 80's for the next 4 days. I'll track that for peak daily temps.

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After overnight, and opening this AM, -Id started last night with coolers that were not "pre-cooled", and with nothing taking up space (which if its cool or frozen only helps...) - BTW both were stored on top of one another in the same place before, so presumably were the same starting temp inside.

OZARK:

Ozark 1.jpg 


YETI:

Yeti1.jpg 


I don't expect this to last as long as when I ice down for a trip this is just as a static measure, one cooler against the other.

When I pack a cooler for a trip its always: everything starts cold (or frozen if reasonable) some block ice at one end with frozen meat on top of that everything else aided, (including some sort of basket or open plastic container for "delicate" items, and then Party ice. The longer the trip the more party ice, up to completely filing if its a week or more...

Today's peak temp was 80 according to the weather guessers. tomorrow AM we see how much it did.
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I'll be following the results. Thank you for your efforts.
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I love my pelican cooler, been on many long road trips summer and winter. Holds ice great and has far superior latches, handles, drain plug, locking area. Other nice thing is it is made in the usa!
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Chucker
I'm curious to find out how your test went. 

We have settled on the "Lifetime" brand cooler. Guaranteed 1 hour against a Griz! Plus it's thick. 
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outlawmws
It's less than 24 hours in Chuck.

And I know the thread is only an hour or two old, but the test is about 23 hours in.  

I could not help myself and took another peak.  I was a bit shocked!

Ozark 23 hours in:

Ozark 2.jpg 


Yeti 23 hours in:

Yeti2.jpg 

The block in the Yeti LOOKS bigger than it is but that's because it has melted onto one corner and you are seeing the diagonal width.  

BUT!  its still substantially larger than the Ozark's block, which may not make it till morning?  

This AM when I took the earlier pics, About 12-13 hours earlier)  any size diff was negligible.

Early Polls indicate the Yeti will win this race.

Oddly, the Ozark seemed to do just fine on the couple of trips I used it on.   Now I'm wondering if the Yeti will have a much better showing when I start using it?

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Fyi, bps has a yeti box (not a cooler, a medium sized box) for $249.99.
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outlawmws
I'm somewhat late reporting the results due to Life and work...

The Yeti did win 48 to 36 hours.  - One big difference may be simply color and finish?

The YETI is white and the Ozark tan... White reflects, and less than white to dark absorbed, but will also emit, so maybe the tan (and flat) surface simply helped melt the ice faster? If so the temp inside MAY have gotten somewhat cooler than the YETI, but didn't last... (I've salted ice and completely frozen sodas and beer, (trying to cool (but not freeze) room temp drinks for a party)


another possible factor is the flat vs shiny finish on the Yeti's inside? Again shiny is good, and flat absorbs or emits more then shiny...

In any case, I did check the next AM, and the Ozark was water; Cold water but the ice was gone.

The YETI was hanging in there, but was substantially reduced, and the block did last a full 48 hours, but the "block" was less than an ice cube, maybe half at that point... I nearly missed it in there.

EDIT  -  Pic of the remains of the YETI's ice block at 36 hours when the Ozark was just cold water:

Yeti 3.jpg 

So for this simple test, the YETI had a good 25% better showing than the Ozark 48 vs 36 or less for ice retention. I don't have the instrumentation for checking the interior temps while testing. but that would be interesting to try on a more global basis, given time $$ (equipment) and all that...

They make "plastic" paint, I wonder if I painted this inside of the Ozark with gloss white it would come out closer?

Physically the YETI's top is 2" thick, and no drink rings, the Ozark is 2-1/4 with 2 shallow drink rings.

Sides are 1-1/2, for the YETI, 1" for the Ozark.
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outlawmws
I forgot to report one thing: The Ozark has a 4.5 day rating on its label

I've been unable to find a rating anywhere for the YETI...
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outlawmws wrote:
I'm somewhat late reporting the results due to Life and work...

The Yeti did win 48 to 36 hours.  - One big difference may be simply color and finish

So for this simple test, the YETI had a good 25% better showing than the Ozark 48 vs 36 or less for ice retention. I don't have the instrumentation for checking the interior temps while testing. but that would be interesting to try on a more global basis, given time $$ (equipment) and all that...

Physically the YETI's top is 2" thick, and no drink rings, the Ozark is 2-1/4 with 2 shallow drink rings.

Sides are 1-1/2, for the YETI, 1" for the Ozark.


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I'll stick with my Ozark cooler it was expensive enough. I'm not going to pay the stupid high money that they want for a Yeti.
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outlawmws
I tend to agree.  In use the Ozark has done just fine.  I was just testing against the hype.  While the YETI won,  keep in mind a <4 lb block of ice did last 36 hours.  That isn't bad!

I would have gone with a Coleman, but Coleman in their infinite wisdom don't make a 5 day cooler smaller than I think 36 qt.  which I already have.  I just needed a bit smaller for overnight/weekend trips in the Samurai

I did find that Krylon has a gloss white in their fusion type that is intended for plastics.  So for $5 I'll probably try that on the interior.  I'l try to verify the type of plastic its made of first as some simply do not take paint period...
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outlawmws
I've had a 70 qt extreme for many years.  Close to their inception.  It works so well, all my buddies also bought one.  It was my only cooler for a long time after I got rid of the older 100 Qt coolers.  I only started playing with the smaller ones when I scaled down to a smaller rig, and wanted to be able to leave the trailer at home for shorter trips...

The YETI was a surprise and the ignition for trying this test...
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outlawmws
I forgot I had taken pics in the AM after 36 hours when the Ozark was done with only cold water left. you can see the YETI's block was way reduced, but far from gone.

I'll also re-post the pic up thread for ease of future reading

Yeti 3.jpg 
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outlawmws
And Dang it; The case is Polyethylene, so probably not going to get good results with paint...

Maybe a gloss white vinyl wrap material?  I wonder if the adhesive is water proof?
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Yeti is the only way to go, they even have economy gear boxes
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Kinda late weighing in on this Outlaw but a major difference in your test is the Yeti is 6 quarts smaller so has six quarts less of air volume to keep cool.  A mathematician, definitely not me, could figure the adjustment in in ice volume to make it a level playing field.  So, I would think they worked out basically the same. 

i have approached the ice dilemma by packing so I use food that has to be cold first in the trip and then graduating into canned and dried food later on wilderness or dispersed camping trips when not near a store.  For our Coleman gatherings and at a campground, buying ice on site lets me use my Coleman metal sided coolers which match the reason for the trip.   I have a buddy who uses an Rtic, and it matches Yeti in ice holding and is cheaper.  Of course everything is cheaper then a Yeti.  Someone left a Coleman Extreme at my house and it holds ice well but is bigger then what I want to take out. 


congrats on your well earned Yeti gift though.  I am sure that will be a great cooler. 

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outlawmws
Thanks Marty.  

I know the claimed volume is different ,  the actual measured volume is 22% different.  

The actual ice blocks were not exact and the one I put in the Ozark was the one that was slightly larger, knowing it had more volume.  but no way was it 22% different.  

Once down to temp,  I don't think the diff in air volume was enough to make that much difference,  especially as I wasn't in and out of them but to do the "official" checks.  I could probably have put in a couple of empty Milk jugs to compensate, but again was it that significant?  The larger surface of the interior would be if my shiny white vs dull tan theory is correct.

My packing technique gets better than advertised performance out of my coolers generally.  since switching to the 70 qt Coleman extreme,  years back I use 3 quart milk jugs worth of block ice (maybe 8 lbs), forzen meats on top of that every thing less placed in the bottom,  fill with party ice, leaving just space for a basket of "delicate" or food I need handy on top.  I've gone 10 days that way.

Before the 70 I had a couple of Coleman 100's and did the same packing, only with 2X the block ice (using half gallon cartons)  that for a 10 day trip I'd need more ice before the end; maybe 5-7 days in.
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Thank you for your efforts. A twelve hour difference is substantial.
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Thanks for the info. But as far as Yeti prices. I can buy a lot of extra bags of ice for that kind money.
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Chucker
Interesting results. 

My own update on real world use (camping) of the 55 qt. Lifetime brand cooler (made in Utah) is - it used three bags of ice and two gallon jugs of frozen water, was kept outside with daytime temps in high 70's/low 80's, and still had a half bag of ice left on day seven. That included open/closing for food and drinks. 

Draw back: We have the 55qt. size and filled with food and ice it was a pain to lift it daily onto the high stand (we concealed it at night for security). I am not a little guy and lifting 50 pounds above my waist or 100 pounds to my shoulders isn't normally an issue. Still, we like this size for our camping. 
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Bumpkin 95 wrote:
Thanks for the info. But as far as Yeti prices. I can buy a lot of extra bags of ice for that kind money.
i always said the same thing about the cost of rotomolded coolers.....i told buddies you could fit a cooler inside a cooler and still be ahead of the game.....and i get it, people justifying a highly efficient cooler for a particular outing........well ladies the sandman is eating crow .....lol......my wife & I are going over to cabelas this weekend and look at one with intention of bringing one home.....however, with my club points it will probly only ding me about $40 so thats one of my justifications & also using it up to camp in the UP, in theory for trips up to a week long, i wouldnt need to run the propane frig....so thats another justification towards the cost of cooler

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Chucker
Mark I don't think you will regret it. BTW, our trip was up to the Lake Superior shoreline. Beautiful. 
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Chucker wrote:
Mark I don't think you will regret it. BTW, our trip was up to the Lake Superior shoreline. Beautiful. 
yeah Chuck copy on cooler,  you didnt get up by mouth of two heart by any chance?....my camp is almost straight south of the two heart, near pike lake

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Sandman wrote:
yeah Chuck copy on cooler,  you didnt get up by mouth of two heart by any chance?....my camp is almost straight south of the two heart, near pike lake


No, although I hear that is a beautiful area. We were further east at Bay View, near Brimley. Just the best weather we've ever had camping at that location. 
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When I was a kid I remember the first Styrofoam coolers coming out. They were thick walled, ~2", with no inside or outside structure beyond carrying straps. There was a display in a store sporting area (maybe Sears) that had one of the coolers with a big block of ice in it saying the ice was going to last a week. I think the typical metal coolers at the time had glass wool insulation. I think the old 2" Styrofoam cooler would probably give the Yeti cooler a run for the money.  
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