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yarddog59
I have to pump this little lantern every 15 minutes to keep it going. I had read  in a post several years ago that a table spoon of seafoam could increase times between adding pressure to the tank. Any truth to that?
Any suggestions? Thanks Paul 
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zoomkat
Seafoam ~ snake oil. I think that is probably the typical runtime before pumping, especially if the tank is full of fuel. Just an artifact of very small tank that has a small capacity for pressurizing air.
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RobSchroff
I thought there was a problem with the 229 generators letting air out of the founts.  I thought that a 222 or a 226 generator could be used to reduce the problem?
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Gand28
RobSchroff wrote:
I thought there was a problem with the 229 generators letting air out of the founts.  I thought that a 222 or a 226 generator could be used to reduce the problem?


Yes. The later dual fuel generator (both 226 and 229) moves a lot of air and you have to repump often. The 222 generator is no longer made but look for one. They are thinner. 

Seafoam won’t help you. 
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outlawmws
IIR its the larger genny + a larger orifice to make it usable with gasoline.  between that and the tiny tank,  and minimal air space for the aire charge,  its a constant battle with low pressure.  

Don't fill it completely full and you can get a little more "working space"    a NOS 222 genny if you can snag one can help, but it won't be dual fuel anymore.
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pagrey
15 minutes is not long even for this thing. Be sure you don't have leaks. Mine runs an hour on a good day without much effort.
Paul
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JimL
I too was disappointed at the run time between needing to again pump up my 229.  I just looked at the tip charts and the difference between the tip of the 229 and 222 is .001".  I'm surprised this could make that much of a difference.

-Jim

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Gand28
pagrey wrote:
15 minutes is not long even for this thing. Be sure you don't have leaks. Mine runs an hour on a good day without much effort.


Paul, do you have the thin (222) or fat (dual fuel) generator?
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yarddog59
I replaced the original with this generator which has the coleman number 226-5801.
I hope to find a 222 generator if that is the problem. I do know that I did get longer running times in the past. Click image for larger version - Name: IMG_1016.jpg, Views: 45, Size: 59.85 KB
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Phredd
mine runs about an hour and it has the newer gen on it.
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JimL
Per the tip chart, that 226 generator is also the 229 generator.  If you have the old generator that it ran longer on, see if you can clean it

-Jim

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zoomkat
"I thought there was a problem with the 229 generators letting air out of the founts."

After the initial firing I don't think any air from the tank should be supplied to the generator, only fuel. If the orifice in the side of the side of the plastic pickup tube (assuming this is a later model Schrader valve design) is becoming clogged, then it is possible that some air is entering the pickup tube causing faster depressurization of the tank.
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yarddog59
JimL wrote:
Per the tip chart, that 226 generator is also the 229 generator.  If you have the old generator that it ran longer on, see if you can clean it

I do have it, but never have cleaned one before. Ill give it a go.
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zoomkat
I've never had this type lantern, but I would think you could use the fuel control valve to throttle the out put back to reduce the time between pumping's and have a longer fuel run. 
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mikew
Have a 226 that has to be pumped up every 25 to 30 minutes.
Mike
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yarddog59
zoomkat wrote:
I've never had this type lantern, but I would think you could use the fuel control valve to throttle the out put back to reduce the time between pumping's and have a longer fuel run. 


I replaced the o rings on the fuel valve recently. so maybe that could be an issue with losing pressure or adjusting the control valve? 
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outlawmws
I would do a leak test for sure.
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Chucker
yarddog59 wrote:

I do have it, but never have cleaned one before. Ill give it a go.


First remove the gen tip and the internals. If they don't budge heat and quench with propane torch and cold water. Repeat as necessary.

If the pricker/cleaner is carboned up Use 0000 fine steel wool on it and pull or push towards the pricker wire - less of a chance of bending it. 
Chuck
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Kansas John
Chucker wrote:


First remove the gen tip and the internals. If they don't budge heat and quench with propane torch and cold water. Repeat as necessary.

If the pricker/cleaner is carboned up Use 0000 fine steel wool on it and pull or push towards the pricker wire - less of a chance of bending it. 



Some of these gens, especially the later models are like 285 gens where there is a crimp keeping everything inside.  Another solution could be to switch the gen tip onto the currently installed gen.
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Chucker
Thank you John, I wasn't aware and I like your fix. 
Chuck
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Majicwrench
I've got a couple of 229's,  if they are full of fuel not much air space to pressurize, I leave em down a bit AND pump till my thumb hurts. And then a few more pumps after they get hot enough to shut off whatever air circuit they have.

Just last weekend I put a NOS 222A generator on one of them and took it camping, it seemed to run longer (45 minutes-ish)  but that is really subjective.

I've read here for years how much longer the early 222 would run compared to the 226/229, (nobody seems to have run any actual tests)  I've always doubted that Coleman would make an "improvement" in a lantern that would result in an immense loss of run time. -

Maybe I will run my 229 vs my 229 w 222 genny.
Keith
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yarddog59
Those 222 generators are like hen's teeth.
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