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paulbarrette
I am derusting the burner a assembly from me 4m stove.  Using a rubber maid over the sink. Let's see how this goes.  BTW should I remove the second burner dial?

Ratio half pail hot water 3 spoons ca
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Chucker
So "3 spoons" equals how many tablespoons or teaspoons and a "pail of hot water" is how many gallons? Just making a point that if you are using 3 tsp. with 5 gallons you'll have a very long wait to see it work. 
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paulbarrette
Chucker wrote:
So "3 spoons" equals how many tablespoons or teaspoons and a "pail of hot water" is how many gallons? Just making a point that if you are using 3 tsp. with 5 gallons you'll have a very long wait to see it work. 

Hi chucker,
3 table spoons and 2 gallons of hot water.  Do you think I should add more?   I was expecting over night.

Thanks
Pb
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TwoCanoes
I use a generous tablespoon per gallon of water hot from the tap
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BSAGuy
I just eyeball it and put in a lot.  It's hard to get too much citric acid in the water.
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Chucker
Hi Paul. That should be enough if you are giving it all night. 

I'm just less patient so I push the ratio a bit, ha. No worries with what you describe IMO. Looking forward to the results. 
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paulbarrette
Seems to be working well after less than an hour, maybe the low hanging fruit.

Pb

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paulbarrette
Chucker wrote:
Hi Paul. That should be enough if you are giving it all night. 

I'm just less patient so I push the ratio a bit, ha. No worries with what you describe IMO. Looking forward to the results. 


Thanks, me too.  That thing needs it.

Pb
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BSAGuy
You will want a brass brush, Paul.  The acid soak is great for loosening the rust, but to really get it off, you will need to apply some elbow grease.

Speaking of grease, for organic crud like that on grates, I use cheap oven cleaner from Family Dollar or Walmart.  Don't use that on paint as the lye will remove paint.  For metal parts like grates, burners and tubes, oven cleaner works great.
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If you heat it up, it WILL work faster.

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paulbarrette
BSAGuy wrote:
You will want a brass brush, Paul.  The acid soak is great for loosening the rust, but to really get it off, you will need to apply some elbow grease.

Speaking of grease, for organic cru like that on grates, I use cheap oven cleaner from Family Dollar or Walmart.  Don't use that on paint as the lye will remove paint.  For metal parts like grates, burners and tubes, oven cleaner works great.


Hi bsa guy,
I just had the old electric tooth brush in there.  I am amazed at how well this works in just a few hours.  I think a brass brush will do the trick.  The grate is mostly clean.  I will leave it over night and brass brush it tomorrow.  Oven cleaner is a good idea.  That might be next.
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Pb
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paulbarrette
JimL wrote:
If you heat it up, it WILL work faster.

Hi jim,
True but I don't have a pot to use.  I am not in a hurry.

Pb
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Electrolysis. Search for it here.
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D421
I must have missed the part about measuring citric acid? I just use a bunch and watch.
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paulbarrette
Next morning.  Looks good.  This will paint up well.
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Chucker
Paul, steel wool can be your friend with this job as well as wire brushes. 

Looking better!
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paulbarrette
Chucker wrote:
Paul, steel wool can be your friend with this job as well as wire brushes. 

Looking better!


Yep, there is some black tar like substance on there that needs it.

I plan to spray paint with high temp engine paint.
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Chucker
Use what you like. I use 1200 deg. high temp silver on those. Some don't bother with the burner bowl since some paint will bubble up on those when running. 
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paulbarrette
Chucker wrote:
Use what you like. I use 1200 deg. high temp silver on those. Some don't bother with the burner bowl since some paint will bubble up on those when running. 


Good point about the bowls.  I plan to use it, do I might leave those as is.

Thanks
Pb
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paulbarrette
I put some elbow grease on the grate with steel wool.  Should be ready for vht paint
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I de-rusted a fount last night with citric acid. I used a half a cup in a gallon of hot water for 12 hours. Worked ok but may go another 12 after I look inside. Electrolysis is better however but I was feeling lazy.
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paulbarrette
ashdavely wrote:
I de-rusted a fount last night with citric acid. I used a half a cup in a gallon of hot water for 12 hours. Worked ok but may go another 12 after I look inside. Electrolysis is better however but I was feeling lazy.


Wow that is a lot more than I used.  Did you heat it on the stove?

Pb
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Looking good.  You can speed up de-rusting with several other methods, including Lysol toilet bowl cleaner which is 10% HCL.  Special care must be taken such as gloves/eye protection, and you have to monitor the process closely as it works very fast.  I usually use it full strength but it can be diluted by adding it to water.  Works on rust and brass, but will quickly strip off most platings.  If you don't mind waiting, citric is fine.
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paulbarrette
austin65uri wrote:
Looking good.  You can speed up de-rusting with several other methods, including Lysol toilet bowl cleaner which is 10% HCL.  Special care must be taken such as gloves/eye protection, and you have to monitor the process closely as it works very fast.  I usually use it full strength but it can be diluted by adding it to water.  Works on rust and brass, but will quickly strip off most platings.  If you don't mind waiting, citric is fine.


Hi bill,
I am ok with waiting.  I like that I don't need much protection.  How fast minutes or hours?

Pb
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austin65uri
Paul, in minutes if full strength.  It's quick and effective but needs your attention.
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austin65uri wrote:
Paul, in minutes if full strength.  It's quick and effective but needs your attention.

 Is that the rubber ducky bottle my wife uses to clean the toilets?  Blue liquid?
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paulbarrette
austin65uri wrote:
Paul, in minutes if full strength.  It's quick and effective but needs your attention.


Hi bill,
Wow, that is instant gratification.

Pb
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Gunhippie
Chucker wrote:
Use what you like. I use 1200 deg. high temp silver on those. Some don't bother with the burner bowl since some paint will bubble up on those when running. 


I use Rustoleum VHT 2,000F flat aluminum on my stove parts, and have had no problem with the paint bubbling or peeling from the burner bowls.

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Northman49 wrote:

 Is that the rubber ducky bottle my wife uses to clean the toilets?  Blue liquid?

That's it. (Tried to post a pic but still having HTTP error issues).
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paulbarrette
Gunhippie wrote:


I use Rustoleum VHT 2,000F flat aluminum on my stove parts, and have had no problem with the paint bubbling or peeling from the burner bowls.

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That is really vht!  I will look for it.

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Pb
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Chucker
I've had great success with VHT flame proof as well. 

The 1200 deg. F. high temp stuff is more lantern use for me nowadays. 
Chuck
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Mennonite store north of me has it repackaged from bulk very reasonably priced......just bought 3 packages for around $4 total....probly 3-4 cups worth.......so at 2-3 tablespoons per gal of water its a good supply to have on hand

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paulbarrette
Sandman wrote:
Mennonite store north of me has it repackaged from bulk very reasonably priced......just bought 3 packages for around $4 total....probly 3-4 cups worth.......so at 2-3 tablespoons per gal of water its a good supply to have on hand


That is a great price.  I paid a lot more than that at a bulk foods outlet.

Pb
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