200A and 202 reproduction
frames back
in stock.

coleman54
Coleman and Preway examples. 
If anyone has Coleman or other badged tables feel free to show them here.


Model # 5202  PAK Table ca. 1957    vinyl cover
advertised with 4 folding stools
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Model #5201  PAK - Table  with Hammer - Loid  finish    ca. 1957  advertised with 4 stools 
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Model # 640 Coleman logo  ca. Early Mid1950’s
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Model # 640  No Logo     ca. Early 1950’s  
Stools sold Separately 
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  Patent applied  for  : August 7 1953
 
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   Preway   Model #28        ca. 19349B1E35C9-F855-4FD5-AF58-A1A2C4647A0F.jpeg  DEDE38A3-46E9-47C9-B2DF-C1B702A55AED.jpeg
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REJ2
Very nice setups Larry, impressive actually! Them fellas at Preway really had their head in the game some twenty years before Coleman in regards to portable camping tables. 
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Very nice, Larry.    Looks like you are ready for bridge club.
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Taco912
Great thread and info!!  I have a couple of photos of original boxes from the net.  These tables seemed to come with many options, carry bags, stools, no stools, stools only.  

Mid 50's - 60's with no stools but a case.  Has anyone seen a preserved case?   640 Box web.png 

Hang tag for above:     640 Hang tag web.png 


Metallic set with stools  (5201 ??):     Pak-Table box 5201 web.png 
Stand alone stool set?      Example Grey stools web.png 

Please comment on any incorrect info.
DJ
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Gand28
I have the 50's-60 table with that same hang tag.  It appears that the table was sold alone and stools sold separately.
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coleman54
Yes, it states in the advertising I showed above : “stools are available at small extra cost. “
DJ , the table folded up is the carrying case. Kind of a play on words in advertising  :   it’s a table when set up and a carrying case when folded up. 
If you have four stools in it there’s not much room for anything else though. 
 I have not seen the Coleman branded stools painted in grey or different color seats other than red before, if they are really Coleman (I see the decal) they must be a later variety I’m not familiar with. 



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 I’m hard pressed to top Larry’s display but I’ll attempt it. 😉  I was lucky enough to find this JC Higgins (Sears) branded table about a year ago. I’m guessing, because it has similar features to Larry’s vinyl top table, it was either made by Coleman or by the the same manufacturer of the later Coleman example. It was found with the original box but unfortunately no paperwork. I really like the fold out/spring lock style legs of this table compared to my Coleman table similar to the one above that has the thumb screws to lock in the legs.   50614226-B83E-4F84-8D2C-B94140F411F1.jpeg  3C159F76-00A5-4FEB-8AA0-D621744AECE4.jpeg 773A76D5-C984-4AE9-B362-FC5C7351ADE7.jpeg  2EB71466-F16E-42E0-A7FD-91610A504B65.jpeg  3D7B021A-4CAC-40CA-8CE9-2F719728C4F7.jpeg  79796077-2E96-4FC7-A969-A8E815855345.jpeg 
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coleman54
Thanks Bart for showing that one. I am really envious!  I sure do like that one.!  
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bridd
Thanks Larry & thanks for prodding me.  I really like all of the old camp tables. You have some really nice examples. 
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Taco912
coleman54 wrote:

DJ , the table folded up is the carrying case. Kind of a play on words in advertising  :   it’s a table when set up and a carrying case when folded up. 

 I have not seen the Coleman branded stools painted in grey or different color seats other than red before, if they are really Coleman (I see the decal) they must be a later variety I’m not familiar with. 
 


Yea, I wondered about the  "carrying case"  after posting.  Advertising hasn't changed much in 60 years.  

As to the grey stools, I have a set of 3, not the ones I posted the photo of, and have seen photos of others around the net (grey with Coleman decal).  The seat attachment clips and welded hardware appear to be identical to the green ones and the measurements align with the smaller of the two sizes of the green ones mostly seen (information from other threads here).  I'm certainly new to these and that is why I was delighted to see this thread to explore their details.
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coleman54
DJ, thank you for that information and your contributions to this topic. 
Hope to see other examples and information. 
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Here are some images from : UtahColemanUser (Joe) of his #640 and information.  Thanks Joe  for your contributions.  F9EA17FF-4616-4CE7-9145-8A97B2210F46.jpeg  65C9621C-94ED-4CFB-BE3F-FE374CDE9B1E.jpeg 
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cjr
Excellent thread, Larry.

I love these things and have a mid-1950s-'60s Coleman but I just realized I don't have a photo of it set-up.

I'll take a few and upload but here's a shot showing the stainless-steel rivet I used to repair the otherwise-great latches.

Thanks again for the great images and info.

cjr

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UtahColemanUser
coleman54 wrote:
Here are some images from : UtahColemanUser (Joe) of his #640 and information.  Thanks Joe  for your contributions.   

I actually had 4 of these at one time, now I'm down to just 1. The one with the box in the photo now belongs to Jared. I have 8 stools, 2 of which are the smaller version without the Coleman logo. I'll post photos soon along with my Handy Table, if that would be acceptable to add to this thread.

Cheers,
Joe
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Gunhippie
Here are mine, no idea what model #s:

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Metallic green, w/stools. I have all four, one was out for new canvas when I took the picture. All stools now have fresh canvas. Any idea what handle this would have had?

Re-canvased stool vs. original:

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A friend who makes tents made the tops for me.

My other table, in use:

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I don't seem to have a picture of this table by itself.
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UtahColemanUser
Here are some comparisons shots of the stools. The small ones are not marked Coleman, while the larger ones are. The small ones have much thinner canvas as well, but I do not know if they are original. I also have some of the larger with white canvas, but not sure if the canvas has been replaced.The large ones folded are 21 1/2" x 13 1/2" while the smaller ones are 18 1/4" x 12 1/4" folded. Click image for larger version - Name: stool -2.jpg, Views: 659, Size: 158.91 KB Click image for larger version - Name: stool -3.jpg, Views: 659, Size: 176.35 KB
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Colemannut
Here is an old picture with the white canvas stools. I don’t believe they are Coleman. Other manufacturers made them also. 
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coleman54
The early larger # 640 stools will not fit into the later # 5201and # 5202 tables with fold up legs. 
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Gunhippie
My older one, with wire (single) handle uses the clips, not the screws, for the leg retention.

Wow, guys!--It's hard to find a modern ass that fits the "Large" size stools! I use them as ottomans, mostly. Still need to make a shallow plywood box to go over one for a side-table.
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Colemannut
coleman54 wrote:
The early larger # 640 stools will not fit into the later # 5201and # 5202 tables with fold up legs. 


Your picture here shows the same dimensions for the early 640-A491 stools being the same size within a 1/4 inch (21 x 13 1/4 x 1) as the later 5201-7011 stools (21 1/4 x 13 1/4 x 1) folded. And are the same width.
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Coast to Coast
I Don’t know what they sell for, but here is one in the Chicago area craigslist pages for $100, if anyone is interested.  Looks to be in excellent condition and the table and stools are all badged.

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Colemannut
The specs show the same size dimensions for the stools in this diagram with the  later 5202 vinyl tables. I will check when I get home but this diagram says the tables are all the same size.
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coleman54
Kameron. notice in the diagram above the
640-A491 early large stool part number has a notation at the bottom as obsolete order
5201-7011 is the smaller. 
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coleman54 wrote:
The early larger # 640 stools will not fit into the later # 5201and # 5202 tables with fold up legs. 


Large 640-A491 stool inside a 5202 Coleman table. BE6FD7A7-18E4-48DE-9264-BC00ECF74768.jpeg 
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rob_pontius
The table listed in the Chicago CL is sold now. I was in the middle of a deal with the seller when this was posted. A very good reason why we don't post active listings like that on here. 
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Rubing
I Don’t know what they sell for, but here is one in the Chicago area craigslist pages for $100, if anyone is interested.  Looks to be in excellent condition and the table and stools are all badged.

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A member here was already on this. Please don’t post CL ads out of your area unless you intend to drive there and pick them up. This behavior is allowed here but put yourself in his position. What pleasure do you get from posting something for sale on CL thousands a mile away from you?
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sweet setup and nice Vanagon!

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Lhoffm4coleman
Has anyone taken the advertisement suggestion and packed their table with picnic plates, lanterns, etc.?
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coleman54
Has anyone taken the advertisement suggestion and packed their table with picnic plates, lanterns, etc.?

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with a table weight of 20 lbs and 4 stools at 13 lbs. 
its no wonder the plastic handle models got broken. 
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Flyboyfwa
I would think it would be rather noisy when you carry it, if you can carry it, with a bunch of stuff in there.
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Hansmafia

I know this is an old thread, but since someone just linked it, I felt I should add some info to it. 

Above, people are mentioning that the later/ smaller chairs (that I thought were children's chairs) have no Coleman logo. I have the smaller chairs with the Coleman logo. I have two small and two large chairs that were found in my 640. I also have a fifth chair that is missing the clips. 

You can find the measurements to the large and smaller chairs here

I hope this helps
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640 Camp Chairs 5.jpg 


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A Coleman table and chair set just came available on CL near me. Unfortunately it's a little out of my price range, but it's tempting! Such a cool setup!
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StanDahl
In 1953 (according to the Appliance catalog dated Feb. 1, 1953), the first year these were offered, only the smaller 640-191 stools were available. In a January 1954 Appliance Catalog, both 690-491 and 690A-491 stools were available, then the next Appliance catalog dated Nov. 1954 (and from then on) shows only the larger 640A-491 stool (later called the 5201-701 and 5201-7011 after they made the canvas attach with a clip). So the small came first, then the large. All of the various table styles were the same size. [Edit - all early and late stools used clips to attach the canvas.]
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The 640-498 picnic table went through model year 1956. In 1957 (according to the big Outing Catalog), the "New Pak Table" vinyl top "hammerloid" enamel 5202-700 came without stools (now designated 5201-701), and the same style table, but without vinyl, hammerloid baked enamel finish 5201-700 came with four stools. In the 1958 Outing Catalog they were still calling it "new" (this happens frequently), so you can't always judge when something was introduced by their advertising.

The last year of the Pak Table was 1958, but the camp stool lived on another two years. (The 1959-60 model 5201-7011 Camp Stool is the same size as the earlier 640A-491.) There was even a three-legged canvas-topped folding stool (5220-701) available for 1959 only. 

I've had a couple of the 640 picnic tables for years, and I've used them to carry stuff. Here's new-to-me a 5202-700 Pak Table with stools (and replaced handle):
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coleman54
Thanks John, for the appliance catalogs info. The 1954 showing the difference in stool numbers and sizes are very helpful. This 1957 Coleman ad describes a choice as Scuff - proof vinyl or  Hammer - loid table top

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diablo45
Stan, 
 So where would the "metallic" table fit in to the timeline if the last tables were 1958? I thought it was the same time frame as the metallic 220E and 228E lantern.
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StanDahl
I don't have one with metallic paint, so judging by the photos above I'm guessing it was the 1957-58 Pak Table with "hammerloid" finish, although my vinyl-topped Pak Table doesn't seem to have metallic paint. Maybe I'm not seeing it in the right light. The coolers of that time were also painted with metallic green "hammerloid" enamel paint.
The hypothesis attempting to explain the metallic green 220/228E's suggests that they ran out of the regular green paint and used cooler paint, but that's just speculation as far as I know, but pretty reasonable speculation.
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diablo45
The other reason I asked, is the metallic tables decal has the circled "r" trademark/copyright where at least in lanterns usually means 1961 and later.  [fcdKo5l] 
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StanDahl
I don't know about the ® appearing in 1961 - I think that's the little lantern logo you're thinking of. Some of the stoves of that era already had the ® on them. I have two bronze-tank 413E's (1954-58), one had the ® and the other doesn't. [The same goes for some 426's I have.] The 200A's had the ® beginning in 1955. It's kind of a shaky thing to base a date on, but it's a clue anyway.
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diablo45
StanDahl wrote:
I don't know about the ® appearing in 1961 - I think that's the little lantern logo you're thinking of. Some of the stoves of that era already had the ® on them. I have two bronze-tank 413E's (1954-58), one had the ® and the other doesn't. [The same goes for some 426's I have.] The 200A's had the ® beginning in 1955. It's kind of a shaky thing to base a date on, but it's a clue anyway.

 
 Did not know that, had always heard what I had wrote. Good to know. 
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Taco912
StanDahl wrote:
....................(later called the 5201-701 and 5201-7011 after they made the canvas attach with a clip). 


So there is an early version, or any version, of the Coleman campstool that the seat did not attach with the clips?
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weto
Never had a metallic lantern so can't do a side by side, but the table i had recently sure looked similar to the ones that I've seen posted here. Sorry for the crappy images, they're screencaps from the local classified ad when I sold it.
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StanDahl
Taco912 wrote:
 So there is an early version, or any version, of the Coleman campstool that the seat did not attach with the clips?
Apparently not. I screwed up on that call. The earlier 640-191 and 640A-191 had the clips too. I'll edit that in my previous post. 
I really don't know why they added the extra "1" to the 5201-7011 stool. The measurements given are identical to the previous 5201-701. Coleman did start adding a "1" to the end of many part numbers, but that started a few years earlier. Maybe it fit better into some sort of accounting form or something.
[edit: the 5201-701 and 5201-7011 stools actually do show a 1" thickness, instead of the 3/4" thickness for the previous 640A-191. I didn't pay much attention to that because I've noticed that one models stove case measurements in catalogs can vary from year to year, and figured it was because someone in the advertising department would call someone down on the assembly floor for a measurement and got a different guy measuring them from one year to the next. Maybe one of you has a set of stools that is thicker than another? I'll dig mine out...soon.]
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Taco912
StanDahl  (John)

Thank you for clarifying seat clip info as there is a "look alike" stool that I believe is smaller than both of the Coleman ones that the seat does attach differently.  I'd also missed that perhaps the later model was thicker.  While we are on the subject, I too will try and drag out some comparisons.  
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