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Roger Miller
Last year I posted my troubles with flooding out my 425 stove while I was winter camping.
While I have learned a lot in the past year about the operation of the stoves and lanterns.

The guys in my winter camp group have started to talk about this years camp in January and I was thinking in my sleep about ways to preheat my stove generator before use. I was thinking of Fire gel, sterno cans, esbit solid fuel tabs, propane torches and the many things that were suggested in the past.

Then the thought of making a alcohol preheat cup of some type for the stove generator came to mind about 4am. It works for kero lanterns of all types and just might even have one with me this year in camp.

You guys have any ideas ?
He said " I only just want one lantern that works"
"Holyrood" 2018 Survivor
I got rained on at the, Coleman Collectors Club Central Kansas 3rd Annual Gathering 2018 @ Wilson Lake.
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Cigarguy
For winter camping I use my cigar torch or a small propane soldering torch to preheat and as a fire starter.  I do this for both my Coleman stove(s) and MSR Whisperlite backpacking stove.  Simple, no extra work involved and the lighter/torch is used year round and is used for other things.
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fuel brained
I use a 6oz tomato paste can lid cut below the seal ring and slide it under the gen on top of the burner and use hand sanitizer. No muss no fuss and no residue. Jeff
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Old bottle caps work good for smaller stoves
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302w
I've read "the eskimos" spray raw fuel from the generator on the burner then light the gasoline for a preheat cup. I've done this but it wasn't sub zero.
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Lhoffm4coleman
What about wraping firerope around the stove genny and soaking it with alcohol? Heard that works for lanterns and single burner stoves?
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StanDahl
I have a Sears (Coleman) stove that was (commercially) converted to burn alcohol for use on a boat. There is a piece of asbestos cloth on top of the main burner. You pour a little fuel on it and light it to preheat the generator. A curved piece of steel insulates the area to get it going, or keep the generator from cooling?

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brucesheehe
Couglans fire starter paste works well.  Apply it in the middle of the burner under the generator.  It works like a champ.

https://www.coghlans.com/products/fire-paste-8607
Bruce Sheehe
ICCC #889 - Connoisseur of Time, Friends, Leisure, & Coleman   Altoona, PA - The Mountain City - Near The Eastern USA Continental Divide
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mpetey
How about taking the cup and cutting a tiki torch wick to fit inside the cup? Then fill it with denatured alcohol to preheat?
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ke4ljh
All of the ideas above are great and work well for different folks based on the material available. Some have small pieces of asbestos, which I think is about the best idea I have seen. Although I don't have asbestos, I have use "two bottle caps", bent slightly at two points along the edge 180 degree's apart to just fit under the generator. Why, because that is what I have available without buying something special. Squirt some fuel in the bottle caps wedged under the generator right from the end of the generator and light. I found two bottle caps will hold enough fuel to preheat, but not in winter with a lot of wind.

At home and car camping I mostly keep a profane torch available for the task. No fuss, no muss. Use this method for lanterns as well. Keeps things simple.

The Sterno gel works well too. If you have it use it. But I stopped buying it as I had no other use for it. Propane torches win most of the time. In the field, bottle caps win for me when propane is not available. make a simple shroud from heavy duty aluminum foil to cover the generator and bottle caps to speed up the process. I just leave all these scrap parts inside the stove so there always there when needed when profane is not at hand.

I liked the tomato past lid idea. That would be better I think than the two bottle caps as it is larger, holds more fuel especially needed in colder temps. I will try that one.

A word of caution for those new to the stove thing.

If and when using fuel to preheat in bottle caps, asbestos or the infamous tomato past can lid. Be very careful not to spill or otherwise squirt fuel anywhere else in that stove. In other words don't make a mess. Care is needed here. You can catch the stove on fire if that fuel is spilled inside the stove. Be cautious with this. Don't spill that fuel where you don't want it to be.

For those not yet initiated with a good old fashion Coleman stove fire, the flames will die out after all the paint is burned off the stove. Just be patient.......

Stephen - Florida
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Roger Miller
I have experience the good old stove fire last year when I tried to light up a flooded out stove in the cold.
Ya I was freaked out a bit and once the fire was out I cook my breakfast over the campfire.
I did not want a repeat, so I am looking for a preheat option. I am going to experiment with the can lid, bottle caps and wick before my next trip.
He said " I only just want one lantern that works"
"Holyrood" 2018 Survivor
I got rained on at the, Coleman Collectors Club Central Kansas 3rd Annual Gathering 2018 @ Wilson Lake.
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CSH
Roger Miller wrote:
I have experience the good old stove fire last year when I tried to light up a flooded out stove in the cold.
Ya I was freaked out a bit and once the fire was out I cook my breakfast over the campfire.
I did not want a repeat, so I am looking for a preheat option. I am going to experiment with the can lid, bottle caps and wick before my next trip.
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CSH
I'll take a cap of fuel and pour it on the center of the burner and light it. It will preheat the Genny and once the flame goes down I'll open up the valve and fire it off without any flare up.
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curlyjoe_99
Roger,
If you know someone who dips, a snuff lid works well. I also have tried metal lids from jars, bottles and such as well as simple aluminum foil folded into a boat and hung from the generator.

it all depends on what you think works for you, though I and trying to figure out how to make a snuff lid stay in place during transport without it using the center screw of the burner without looking ugly.

anywho....   hope this helps someone

Robert (AKA Curly)-- Heart-of-Texas! "Keep 'Em Working"  
MILSPEC_OPS & 275 Appreciation Syndicate Member #9999

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Gunhippie
A propane plumber's torch works wonders. About 30 seconds and the stove lights right up. Works for lanterns and as an emergency fire-starter, too. Even comes in handy when you set the handbrake and find it frozen solid in the morning.
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Roger Miller
I hate to revive an old post but I have come up with my best option yet. I made a preheat cut out of an stainless steel measuring cup that I picked up at a garage sale. I bent the handle so it will hang from the generator of the stove. It will work with solid fuels like a es-bit tab, trioxine or something similar. It will also work with liquid fuels as well. I have used it on 425 stoves and 413 stoves. The stoves will light up with very little to no flame up and it goes straight to a nice blue flame as soon as you light the
stove. It works very well. I used it this past weekend at my winter camp. No huge fiery stove fires this year.. 



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He said " I only just want one lantern that works"
"Holyrood" 2018 Survivor
I got rained on at the, Coleman Collectors Club Central Kansas 3rd Annual Gathering 2018 @ Wilson Lake.
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chrisnjenn
Very clever, Roger.
Chris
ICCC #1772
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Gasman64
Very clever, Roger, that IS a nifty idea; that'll definitely hold a nice amount of alcohol...
I'll probably be looking for used cups like that in the kitchen trinket section of thrift stores.
Steve    ICCC #1012
 
        
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ke4ljh
Roger, that is an interesting way to preheat. It also occurred to me that one could also use a small amount of fuel to briefly soak some small twigs, and just light a twig fire to preheat if resources are short.

Stephen - Florida
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boneweed
I use a torch summer and winter. Also burns off any pooled fuel in manifold.
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Mister Wilson
That’s pretty slick, I like it.
John
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corky569
Roger Miller wrote:
I hate to revive an old post but I have come up with my best option yet. I made a preheat cut out of an stainless steel measuring cup that I picked up at a garage sale. I bent the handle so it will hang from the generator of the stove. It will work with solid fuels like a es-bit tab, trioxine or something similar. It will also work with liquid fuels as well. I have used it on 425 stoves and 413 stoves. The stoves will light up with very little to no flame up and it goes straight to a nice blue flame as soon as you light the
stove. It works very well. I used it this past weekend at my winter camp. No huge fiery stove fires this year.. 



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What's the volume of that cup?
Tom in Reno
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Roger Miller
It is either a 1/4 or 1/3 cup. Either one will work just fine.
It was an extra that I picked up to keep in my camping kitchen set up.
He said " I only just want one lantern that works"
"Holyrood" 2018 Survivor
I got rained on at the, Coleman Collectors Club Central Kansas 3rd Annual Gathering 2018 @ Wilson Lake.
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offrink
I bet a piece of bent wire in drilled holes would work well to hold it and know for sure it would stay put. Good idea!
Ben
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CBoug76
I made my own cup also, thou I used a Stainless steel coffee measuring cup from walmart that I paid under $2 for. its a perfect size!

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