200A and 202 reproduction
frames back
in stock.

Gunhippie
I got a largish package from Canada today. It was from our good friend Mr. Alexxx.

I opened it and immediately got to work, so no before pics. Here's one that Alex took:

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4/'60 would be early for a Burg in the US, but this is more of a throw-back than ahead of it's time!

The fount cleaned up nicely, and even the paper label came out pretty good.

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Toronto did a better job of the crooked label than Wichita. It's kinda racy, even!

A fount stamp in '60!

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In a strange place--halfway between the valve and fuel bung on the backside from the label.

The valve is totally Cannuck:

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And the vent ain't bad at all!

That's all I have so far. Back to working on my 200, eh?
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Ridge Runner

Sweet deal, Timm. That’s a great looking 200. Nice to have international Bday lanterns, too.

At 4-80 I’m stuck with 220Ks  🤣

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Kgam1020
That is a nice lookin 200, can't wait to see her shining bright!
Ken.
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MrAlexxx
WE NEED LIGHT!  lol  😃

Alex
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Gunhippie
Crap. We have a new labeling machine that needs to be working ASAP. I had it up and running and now it's gone gunny-bag on me. No lantern fettling tonight.
It's priceless until someone puts a price on it.
Walk a mile in a man's shoes before you criticize him--then you're a mile away, and he has no shoes.
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Gunhippie
Well, I did get a couple of hours to work on this today. I mean, other than my job, what else am I going to do? Hang out at the pub?

A birthday lantern is special. This will not pass:

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Some pretty ugly tooling and finishing there.

I found some 4" flapwheels left over from when we were fabricating and finishing our own brewery equipment. These were made to go on a 12,000 rpm die grinder, which I no longer have, so I cobbled together a mandrel to make them work on my HF drill press. I figure something made for 12,000 rpm won't mind being a little unbalanced at 300 rpm. I was right. A little lumpy, but they worked.

I started with 60 grit and worked down to 220 grit. Beyond that, I'll have to use sandpaper.

How do you tell when you're done sanding on the next smaller grit sanding wheel? Well, there are some very nice machinist's dyes made just for that, but I don't have any, so I'll use a Magnum Sharpie. Just grind away until there's no trace of black left, and then a little longer just because:

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After four different flapwheels, I'm ready to move on to hand sanding:

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Then the plating.... I got some of that done, too, while I was sanding.
It's priceless until someone puts a price on it.
Walk a mile in a man's shoes before you criticize him--then you're a mile away, and he has no shoes.
Texan's last words: "Y'all--hold my beer--I wanta' try sumptin'."
Timm--Middle of nowhere, near the end of the road, Oregon.
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Kgam1020
Nice job on the sanding, time consuming for sure. Your Bday 200 is going to look spot on for sure.
Ken.
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MrAlexxx
Work faster! WE NEED LIGHT!  lol  🙂

Alex
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Gunhippie
A few parts that got bling- or re-bling-ified last night:

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It's hard to photograph shiny silver since it reflects the colors around it, but these are right shiny! Some parts are just silly--like the gen and burner tube/cap, as they'll get the nickel burned off in a hurry, but heck it's quick and easy to do this, so why not?
It's priceless until someone puts a price on it.
Walk a mile in a man's shoes before you criticize him--then you're a mile away, and he has no shoes.
Texan's last words: "Y'all--hold my beer--I wanta' try sumptin'."
Timm--Middle of nowhere, near the end of the road, Oregon.
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Dan
The shinier the better.
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Gunhippie
Bling, installed:

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I didn't plate the collar, as Toronto did a fine job of that.

But:

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"We have to cut down on the amount of plastic we're wasting on those valve wheels!"
"Right, boss, we'll have them made by Testor."
It's priceless until someone puts a price on it.
Walk a mile in a man's shoes before you criticize him--then you're a mile away, and he has no shoes.
Texan's last words: "Y'all--hold my beer--I wanta' try sumptin'."
Timm--Middle of nowhere, near the end of the road, Oregon.
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Ridge Runner
Sweet!! Looks like you’re having fun with your new present.

Interesting about the valve wheel. So at some point Toronto hollowed out the front while Wichita hollowed out the back? I kinda like Toronto’s approach; still appears as a solid knob on the surface. 

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Newfie
I've seen a couple of those valve wheels that were melted pretty bad. They feel more flimsy and soft than other valve wheels.

Gunhippie wrote:
Bling, installed:

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I didn't plate the collar, as Toronto did a fine job of that.

But:

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"We have to cut down on the amount of plastic we're wasting on those valve wheels!"
"Right, boss, we'll have them made by Testor."
Shane Looking for the following Canadian birthday lanterns or lamps: 2-32, 6-34,
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Kgam1020
Progress! Coming alone nicely ðŸ˜
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Smokey12
Nice Timm! Was there any kind of sealer or gasket at the end of the threads of the F/A tube? 
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Gunhippie
Yeah, Shane, the plastic this wheel is made from seems much flimsier than I'm used to. It kinda reminds me of when Legos switched compounds, producing bricks that wouldn't stay snapped together.

Don--I've never seen factory thread sealer on the FA tube. I used to put a little on there, but now I figure if Coleman didn't, why should I?
It's priceless until someone puts a price on it.
Walk a mile in a man's shoes before you criticize him--then you're a mile away, and he has no shoes.
Texan's last words: "Y'all--hold my beer--I wanta' try sumptin'."
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Barrett
Nice work Timm, it is going to be a mighty fine looking lantern. 

Side note about the way we talk down here....

What are "Legos"

To us it is all just Lego, a piece of Lego, a pile of Lego.
Not unlike Sheep, a Sheep, a flock of Sheep

I've so much to learn 🙂
Andrew

Living and learning in NZ
Hoping to reach cognitive and emotional maturity before my children do.
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Gunhippie
And you go to hospital, while we use articles.
It's priceless until someone puts a price on it.
Walk a mile in a man's shoes before you criticize him--then you're a mile away, and he has no shoes.
Texan's last words: "Y'all--hold my beer--I wanta' try sumptin'."
Timm--Middle of nowhere, near the end of the road, Oregon.
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Gunhippie
Wow. This sucks.

I spent a few hours over the last few days sanding then polishing the crap out of the frame on this. I finished up with some buffing and polishing compounds and felt wheels. I now am getting incredibly spotty plating results on the polished areas. I called a friend, who did prep and plating work for a local bronze art foundry, and he informed me that many buffing compounds, rouges and polishes contain waxes which are very, very difficult to remove.

Back to the drawing board.
It's priceless until someone puts a price on it.
Walk a mile in a man's shoes before you criticize him--then you're a mile away, and he has no shoes.
Texan's last words: "Y'all--hold my beer--I wanta' try sumptin'."
Timm--Middle of nowhere, near the end of the road, Oregon.
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outlawmws
A soak in Lacquer thinner or maybe MEK?
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Gunhippie
Made some progress tonight. Now time to go home.
It's priceless until someone puts a price on it.
Walk a mile in a man's shoes before you criticize him--then you're a mile away, and he has no shoes.
Texan's last words: "Y'all--hold my beer--I wanta' try sumptin'."
Timm--Middle of nowhere, near the end of the road, Oregon.
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MrAlexxx
You are killing me. Light that thing!!!  lol

Alex
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Gunhippie
Light... tonight!

I promise!
It's priceless until someone puts a price on it.
Walk a mile in a man's shoes before you criticize him--then you're a mile away, and he has no shoes.
Texan's last words: "Y'all--hold my beer--I wanta' try sumptin'."
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Gunhippie
Well, crap.

I've had this happen before, but it's been a while. I cleaned the heck out of the inside of the fount, using lye, phosphoric acid and ultrasound. I dunk-tested it with 60 strokes of the pump in it and it passed with flying colors. Last night, I filled the fount with CF and gave it 40 strokes. I sat it on a blue shop towel and ... today, the towel is wet. With CF. Pinhole in the bottom.

I still don't understand, but sometimes pinholes appear only after sitting with CF in a fount that has passed every other test.

Being as this is a Bday lantern and a gift, I'm going to use some of the Caswell's this weekend.

I'm not giving up!
It's priceless until someone puts a price on it.
Walk a mile in a man's shoes before you criticize him--then you're a mile away, and he has no shoes.
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outlawmws
Tim,  is the pinhole in the edge or the middle?

I had a pinhole in the edge of a stove cylinder tank, and I chemically cleaned the heck out of it, and that section in particular,  then got some flux and solder bits in the right spot.  Then I re-flowed the solder and lastly a little solder on the outside.  Success!
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Gunhippie
It seems to be near the middle of the bottom. Since I have the Caswell's I'll use it. Besides, that will pretty much give me a solid double-bottom and be sure to get the lower seam, too, and I don't have to worry about the nice paint.
It's priceless until someone puts a price on it.
Walk a mile in a man's shoes before you criticize him--then you're a mile away, and he has no shoes.
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MrAlexxx
THAT SUCKS!!!  🙁   Good thing it was a gift huh???  lol   

Alex
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green7golf
Looks great so far, I have a Burg i got from my son for fathers day, same thing happened... Pinholes... I found another fount, replaced it and kept the original too. I might fix it one day.
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SteveRetherford
not sure i could gift a caswelled fount , might be OK for myself but not for the unsuspecting .
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Gunhippie
It was a gift to me, Steve. I'm far too stingy to be giving this away!

Having experimented some with Caswell's outside of a fount, it's probably tougher than the steel. Just a matter of getting a full coating.
It's priceless until someone puts a price on it.
Walk a mile in a man's shoes before you criticize him--then you're a mile away, and he has no shoes.
Texan's last words: "Y'all--hold my beer--I wanta' try sumptin'."
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outlawmws
Just posing thoughts for if I ever have one of these:

Hmm, Dead center.  How could one set that up for soldering with the valve removed and cleaned completely?  Maybe"
  • Mini camera on the phone from the filler
  • A dollop of flux paste exactly on the hole from the top
  • solder from the top dead center  - Dang steady hand to eye coordination needed for feeding wire solder. down from the top.
  • a micro torch in a fixture fixture so it exactly on the hole from underneath
  • Be ready to cut the heat as soon as it flows properly (Camera!)
I know solder tends to "follow the Heat" so has this has possibilities?

One of my best friends (RIP Carl) was a life-long sheet metal worker and a master at soldering.  I'l never achieve his skill level, but I feel certain he could pull this off, and probably hardly damage the pant at all?  A little ring maybe?
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Gunhippie
OL: My assumption on finding a pinhole in the base of a fount is that the entire base is compromised and the pinhole is just the tip of the iceberg.

Normally, I'd make something interesting or useful from the fount and find a new one. But a nice, 4/'60 Canadian Burgundy 200 eh fount? Not likely.
It's priceless until someone puts a price on it.
Walk a mile in a man's shoes before you criticize him--then you're a mile away, and he has no shoes.
Texan's last words: "Y'all--hold my beer--I wanta' try sumptin'."
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Gunhippie
Caswell's mixed up and in the fount. Now to sit here turning it while I clean the huge hot water system as the brewery.

I like to pressurize the fount a little at the beginning to ensure that the sealer gets right into the pinholes, so it has 20 strokes on it right now.
It's priceless until someone puts a price on it.
Walk a mile in a man's shoes before you criticize him--then you're a mile away, and he has no shoes.
Texan's last words: "Y'all--hold my beer--I wanta' try sumptin'."
Timm--Middle of nowhere, near the end of the road, Oregon.
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adelcoro
Nice 200 
They used the darker red paint for a few years only.

The early1962 220E models also had  the same paint. 
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Gunhippie
@MrAlexxx

It's been three days, the maximum cure time for the Caswell's.

So let's light this puppy up!

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I'm pretty happy with the way this one came out. It was more work than it needed to be, but worth it.
It's priceless until someone puts a price on it.
Walk a mile in a man's shoes before you criticize him--then you're a mile away, and he has no shoes.
Texan's last words: "Y'all--hold my beer--I wanta' try sumptin'."
Timm--Middle of nowhere, near the end of the road, Oregon.
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Gunhippie
Here it is next to a US '74 "regular red" for comparison:

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Not as dark as a US Burg, but darker than the regular red.
It's priceless until someone puts a price on it.
Walk a mile in a man's shoes before you criticize him--then you're a mile away, and he has no shoes.
Texan's last words: "Y'all--hold my beer--I wanta' try sumptin'."
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MrAlexxx
👍  Timm...nice job! That came out alright.  Everybody should have a BD lantern or two or three or... lol

That's it I'm gonna light mine up later and we can have dueling BD lanterns!  

Alex
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outlawmws
That looks great Timm! 

What was the answer to the plating issues you were having?
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Gunhippie
Thanks, Alex! This makes four: Ca 236, US 200A custom, 228E and this one. Now to find a 4/'60 500A and I'll be a happy hippie!

Outlaw--It was the wax from the rouges and buffing compound I used. i had to clean the hell out of the frame to get it off--an hour in near-boiling lye solution and 1,500 watt ultrasonic cleaner followed by a wash-down with hydrochloric acid finally did the trick! I think the frame came out OK, but there are so many shaded areas on the base that it's just about impossible to get a full plating job on it.

I even hung an anode inside the frame to try to get better coverage on the base plate:

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Which helped, but the little areas between the rim and the uprights and airtube didn't get much if any nickel.
It's priceless until someone puts a price on it.
Walk a mile in a man's shoes before you criticize him--then you're a mile away, and he has no shoes.
Texan's last words: "Y'all--hold my beer--I wanta' try sumptin'."
Timm--Middle of nowhere, near the end of the road, Oregon.
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Ridge Runner
That’s a cool addition to your Bday collection. It really came out very nice with the added nickel 😎👍🏻

— L.J.
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I love the smell of naphtha in the morning!
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florida grown

 As a tip, not to be a mr. Know it all, but to photograph shiny objects, use a diffuser between your light source(s) and your object being photographed...silk, thread bare sheet, translucent plastics, etc.. in conjunction with.... a matte background...velvet, cardboard, used black bedsheets...
Just tips...
I'm really holding my tongue as my degree is in photography, but I absolutely refuse to take any effort in forums I participate in to produce...high quality images..the corporate world stole my love, but can never steal my knowledge....nowadays, I just grab my crummy cell for forum pics. Not to be selfish, but they also stole most of my joy of photography, which is why I'm so blaise when taking pics for forum postings. I was only trying to help you in you're earlier reference to silver being "lost" in your images. I hope I made sense.
But I am curious...in your "let's lite this puppy up" pics...the bokeh is very odd, was that a bridge or dslr if I may ask? My bet is on bridge, either way, what aperture/ f/stop?
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