200A and 202 reproduction
frames back
in stock.

MrAlexxx
Had this badly rotted Air-O fount so decided to take a look see inside. Probably old hat to some of you veteran collectors but it will be the first look inside for me. Never had a rotted Air-O or Quicklite fount before. They seem to be built like a tank. Could easily push  my finger through the rust so got my jig saw and cut the hole bigger. Actually not much to see except I will say the metal that wasn't rotted sure is pretty hefty. Must be at least 1/16" thick. This one must of sat for decades with a little water in the bottom to get like this. The rest of the fount was still as solid as could be. I couldn't save him. So sad. ðŸ˜§

Alex

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Rubing
That is ugly Alex, I sent a 319 fount out to have the stress cracks repaired, I currently have it at New England Chrome Plating to of course be re plated, When it comes back I still want to Caswell it. I’m hoping the 319 has the same pick up. 
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MrAlexxx
"That is ugly Alex"

Greg....I had a dog once that people used to say that about.  lol
Yeah I just grabbed it for the parts. Too bad really because it sure looks good from the top. 

Alex
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Tgarner01
I've never had an air o or quicklite rust out, but this past month I've had 3 with cracks ðŸ˜¬ðŸ˜­. Altho I knew one when I got it. It turned into this ugly thing😁
IMG_20200627_202630_copy_600x800.jpg  thanks for your dissection. Nice to see just how thick the bottom of these Founts are
Toby Garner
ICCC #1939
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SteveRetherford
this is a lantern right ? i think the only reason you see the pick up tube is cuz the valve is still installed , it comes out with the valve . the 316 the 319 , early turbin fount lamps all have the big nut on the bottom of the fount and the pick up  is soldered in top n bottom and does not come out , some 427 are that way as well  the pick up is a permanent part of the fount ...
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Tgarner01
this is a lantern right ? i think the only reason you see the pick up tube is cuz the valve is still installed , it comes out with the valve . the 316 the 319 , early turbin fount lamps all have the big nut on the bottom of the fount and the pick up  is soldered in top n bottom and does not come out , some 427 are that way as well  the pick up is a permanent part of the fount ...

Is there an easy way to identify the 427s with the soldered pickup tube? I've got an external and internal pump but have never had the valves out as they worked like quicklites always seem to. 
Toby Garner
ICCC #1939
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SteveRetherford
externals are not soldered in , its some that have the built in pump .
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coleman54
Tgarner01 wrote:

Is there an easy way to identify the 427s with the soldered pickup tube? I've got an external and internal pump but have never had the valves out as they worked like quicklites always seem to. 

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1927- on  L227, L427 internal pump. 
Larry

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SteveRetherford
ya , i forgot the 227 :-)
[DrSteve2]    Steve , Keeper of the Light !!!
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SteveRetherford
maybe 1/4 of the way down this link it shows a 227 / L427 diagram with part numbers . basicly the valve is the same just no pick up soldered into it .

http://light.papo-art.com/tech-n-info/Coleman_technical/OldDirtyColemanPaper/1930ColemanPartsCatalogNo22.pdf
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Tgarner01
Well I know I have one then😁 my 227 is a 1927 I'll have to check my internal pump 427 date. Thanks Steve and Larry. I have not had the valves out of either of these. Usually no need on a quicklite for me anyhow. Not much to fail in there.
Toby Garner
ICCC #1939
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SteveRetherford
the first time i had seen one was on a 227 , what the heck ? much harder to clean the pick up on these than a regular valve , as the tube is permanent part of the fount with a few holes near the bottom to let the fuel in , seems a poor design choice in my book , like they went backwards in time here . but once clean they work like all the rest :-)
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Tgarner01
the first time i had seen one was on a 227 , what the heck ? much harder to clean the pick up on these than a regular valve , as the tube is permanent part of the fount with a few holes near the bottom to let the fuel in , seems a poor design choice in my book , like they went backwards in time here . but once clean they work like all the rest :-)

I would imagine dried up RUG would be a chore for sure. Not sure why but the majority of quicklites I've worked on have been spotless on the inside. They appear to have been plated on the inside to me
Toby Garner
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Flyboyfwa
You couldn't solder that one??? Lol. Too bad.
Andy
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coleman54

Rubing wrote:
That is ugly Alex, I sent a 319 fount out to have the stress cracks repaired, I currently have it at New England Chrome Plating to of course be re plated, When it comes back I still want to Caswell it. I’m hoping the 319 has the same pick up. 

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As a side note the 327 Quick-Lite and Arco-Lite
(Yale , FQ)  in 1919-20 sometimes used the 7 inch (319) fount probably to disperse inventory, this action also included some IL lanterns  after World War 1. 

The fuel valve and pickup tube were the 319 variety with added length stem. One of these I’m familiar with found required the frame rest to be positioned valve slot up like the 319 were. 
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Larry

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Coleman Slant Saver #01  Coleman Quick Lite Crew #01 Sears Collectors Club #16 
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macwacs
As much meat as you have there I would cut a new  tight fitting bottom and weld it in place. It would take a little work but could look like new after nickle plating. Just to confuse the next generation of collectors I would stamp who made the bottom and a manufacture date. One of a kind.
RMW
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Banjoman
C’mon Alex ur a retired milrite u can fix that or tell Lynda how to lol Darrell
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MrAlexxx
Banjoman wrote:
C’mon Alex ur a retired milrite u can fix that or tell Lynda how to lol Darrell


Hey D ya know if it was the only one I had I'd probably weld or solder a patch in there. I'm gonna keep it and maybe sometime down the road if I get really bored and energetic I might try a fix just to see how it works out. 
Linda has a hard enough time starting fires but don't tell her I said that!  lol

Alex
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Banjoman
I won’t tell her nothing Alex. That makes her ur best and worst student doesn’t it A+ to D- never fail her
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outlawmws
I agree,  as solid as the rest is,  I'd cut a full sized disk slightly oversize,  bend a slight lip on it (Vise grips and work it a little at a time - its amazing what you can do like that  -I've put a lip on muffler pipe so I didn't have to weld the header flanges on,  My racing buddies were amazed...)

Then trim so the old bottom is only maybe 1/4",  and "snap" the new bottom under the bead of the base.

Silver solder (clean and time before installation) and you should be golden?
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BSAGuy
Be sure to give that an honorable burial, Alex.
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Scouterjan
Alex I feel your pain. Years ago I bought a Canadian long external pump 427 the nickel was near perfect on but I decided to soak the inside of the font with vinegar.  Rinsed it out after a day and a huge hole in the base. The font still sits on a self as I dont have the heart to chuck it out 
Jan


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