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bikeguy
I've got an Ashflash 1022 that I picked up a while ago, mainly because it came with a nice Coleman box and a pile of mantles.  At the time I figured the pump probably just needed some love and it'd be good to go...

Turns out the air shaft is completely broken off in the check valve, meaning it can't be opened.  And it doesn't seem like I can get Ashflash parts anywhere.  I haven't tried to see if I can get a Coleman check valve in there but I'm guessing not.

So... do I toss it?  From what I'm reading it seems like I'm probably going to have a lot of trouble 'rehabilitating' it.
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GasPrescue
They are a tad longer (shaft & plunger) than Coleman and I just removed the check valve from a 1022 (7/16 socket) and installed a common Coleman check valve and shaft into the 1022 and it works. Thanks, I learned something new today
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SteveRetherford
Glenn , sometimes curiosity gets us and we just have too see ?  HUH , taught me something too :-)
[DrSteve2]    Steve , Keeper of the Light !!!
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GasPrescue
You are correct Steve....I just had to go see.............................................


Oh, and Bryn.....KEEP IT!  They burn pretty good
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bikeguy
Rad... Thanks guys.  I have a new coleman check valve coming my way...

Any advice for cleaning this thing up before I start it for the first time?  It's pretty sooty right now.  Is it worth doing a disassembly or should I just see if it works first once I get the new check valve in there?
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prosper
I've got a 1010, the check valve and stem look the same so I'm not surprised that they fit. 

I was surprised to learn that many don't like the ashflash, it's one of my favourite lanterns. Exceptionally bright, and built very sturdily
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adkbill
I like the one I've got, but it sure helps to preheat the gen
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prosper
yeah, with the giant generator tube mine has, preheating sure helps. So does a big mantle - I'm using a petromax-style 500cp mantle on mine. Actually, I've got mine on kerosene now - I figured that huge unleaded generator could handle it. Rather than trying to re-jet it, I just opened up the other air tube (it has two air tubes, but one was (deliberately) plugged)
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magikbus
So how does it work?  Is it a 1022???
Stan
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GasPrescue
Put gas in it or kero as stated, pump it 35 times, pre-heat genny,open valve, put match to mantle 1022 it is, if I read correctly
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nitrlight
Keep the Ash Flash- I have a 1010 single mantle and it burns as strong as ANY of my 200A's and maybe better! It also lights faster and without any flare up- Great little lantern .

Just my 2 cents.
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magikbus
My bad, a slight failure to communicate I guess.  I meant "how does it perform on kero"?  

Does it pulse?
How bright is it on the mantles you are using?
Does it take a long pre-heat?
Have you had to spin the cleaning lever much?

Stan

I always take the road less traveled, now where the h3ll am I?
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weasel
Is it camera shy ??
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prosper
my 1010 runs great on kero, though I've not run it on 100% yet, currently about 80/20 kero to camp fuel mix. No pulsing, and it runs clean other than on shutdown when it smokes a bit. I haven't installed a preheat cup yet, so I've been manually pre-heating the generator with a torch for now, so I can't comment there. It's easily brighter than my 200, or 321 and 335 series lanterns

I've got some pics, I'll post them when I get a few minutes
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bikeguy
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oldflame
Last month the fellow I bought a Coleman lantern and stove from, threw in an AFC 1022 with good SilkLights (with the open weave) installed.  This one's ventilator has narrow 1/2" vertical slots surrounding the top, unlike the one pictured above with its five horizontal openings.  All it needed was fuel and, surprisingly, this is one of my brightest lanterns.
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brucesheehe
The Ash Flash are good running lanterns.
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slaytanicmetal76
i like mine.runs good.how do you date them?
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bikeguy
After spending the better part of an evening bashing my head against the wall, I've got my AFC working!!



Please excuse the grubbiness!! Hadn't really noticed how dirty it was till I took the picture...

I can say with absolute certainty that the Coleman air valve does NOT fit the Ashflash lantern properly.  It is CLOSE - you can certainly thread it in there!  The AFC air valve has a brass tapered shoulder that seats in a cup, whereas the Coleman air valves have a flat shoulder and an o-ring.  You can certainly pump it up and get it to light with the Coleman air valve in there, but you aren't going to be using it for very long before you have to pump it up again - my first 'attempt' didn't hold pressure for more than about 10 minutes or so.  Sigh...

In the end, I used the remains of the AFC air valve that was missing its stem, and soldered the Coleman air valve stem in to the AFC valve.  The AFC valves have a separate needle that I guess the original stem fit into - different than the Coleman one piece stem.  I did my very best to get the Coleman air valve to seal - I spent a couple of hours messing with it, filing away the bottom trying to get it to sit deep enough in the hole to seal but no dice.  Once I went back to the AFC valve I had some success.  My check valve doesn't seal PERFECTLY on its own but it does work fine when you screw the stem down.  The Coleman valve leaked like a sieve.

My bodged together AFC / Coleman pump is working fine now though, and I've been enjoying my lantern out on the deck with a well deserved pint this evening now that it is running fine.  Just in time too - I go to a vintage bike swap on Friday where we'll be camping out in a field the night before.  I REALLY wanted the AFC to be running for that!

Thanks everyone for the advice and suggestions to get things going!!

Oh and yes, it is plenty bright, but I don't find it particularly loud at least in comparison to my Coleman 200A.  Some day I'll take a family picture with everyone together!!

OK, well here's some stoves to keep y'all happy anyhow...



The white one is mine, the one in the background belongs to a buddy of mine - we had a 'get the Coleman stuff working' night a few weeks ago.  
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JimDouglasJr
Good cobbling!
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ChuckDynasty
Thought I'd tag onto this thread with my first post here…hope that is ok.

Picked up a Coleman 502 and an Ash Flash single mantle that doesn't have a model number anywhere that I can see. A couple of questions regarding the Ash Flash:

What mantle will work for this?
What leather part for the pump will work for this?
What is the screw for (and how to set it) in the filler cap?

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JimDouglasJr
It's OK to start new topics.
This is a descendant of the Kamplite LRL series (fat generator). They move more fuel than a Coleman single mantle lantern, therefore need a bigger generator.
generally these need a bigger mantle than standard, so I use the Peerless 24-A.  The Coleman #99 would be the other choice.

We're finding that the Peerless mantles are just as bright or brighter and last many times longer for about the same price.  
Both  the P 24-A and Coleman #99 are not going to be found at Walmart or generally, ACE, etc.  best to order some from eBay or OCP (our host - Old Coleman Parts).

If you get lackluster results with the 24-A, thry the smaller Peerless 2C-HG (about = to a common Coleman #21).


Coleman leather will work, but you can soak the existing one in oil for 30 minutes and massage it back into working order, usually.

The screw holds the center disk in the cap and simply allows the disc to seal and the cap to be tightened without dragging the rubber seal around.  

Pretty nice stuff.  A little fuel on the sticker residue will help loosen it on the stove.
Those are both really nice pieces.
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Chucker
Your fuel cap screw should be fine unless it's A) been replaced or B)is cross threaded or beat up.

If you want to change the fuel cap gasket tighten the cap on the lantern, attempt to unscrew the screw, tighten cap more if it won't loosen, try again. After screw is removed loosen the cap and take the fuel gasket piece and burn the seal out with a propane or butane torch. Scrape it well. Replace seal with fuel resistant flat cap seal. Reassemble in reverse order.
Chuck
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titan14
Keep it!!!
Mine runs like a champ!
I bought three a while back...all three 1022's...I made one nice one from the three....
You inspired me to take some pics...I'll start a new thread....
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DarthShrek
Both the 502 and the AshFlash 1010 are very nice! Welcome to the Forum!
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ChuckDynasty
Thanks very much guys!
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JimDouglasJr
LET'S TICKLE THE NEW GUY!

Great to see so much off-brand stuff coming up.   These are usually inexpensive to acquire and definitely fun to work on and see run.  Ash Flash continued to improve the AGM based designs and eventually got an even brighter and more efficient burn. Using the longer fat generator in the single mantle upright lanterns was a smart move. 
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“If you light a lamp for someone else, it will also brighten your path.” Buddhist quote.  Brand-X Super Hoarder.
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KJD
To answer your original question, I would junk it. You may send it to me for a proper disposal. [sFun_mischieviousbig]

Ken
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Nevada_Ed
We don't see many of them around here, just a few over the last ten years myself. I brought one home a long time ago and decided I did not want to get so diversified to include Asian knock off types too. I put it in classifieds here and dang I sold it!

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Wolffarmer
A few months back I got a 1022 with the original globe. The vent has the vertical slats. Burns nice and bright though I have not yet figured out how to start it with out a lot of sooting. At least without preheating. 

Randy

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JimDouglasJr
Randy, what mantle are you using?  These need a 24-A.  They are designed to use a bigger mantle.  That should take care of it.
Kyle. Kaptain Kamplite - America's Finest Lantern Fettler.
Coleman 275 Appreciation Syndicate and 243 Blues Member #0031 &  J.C. Higgins aficionado.
“If you light a lamp for someone else, it will also brighten your path.” Buddhist quote.  Brand-X Super Hoarder.
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Gasman64
Hmmm, looks like "bikeguy" is no longer on the CCF...
Anyways, since this is an AshFlash thread, I need a burner cap for my 1010, if anyone has one.  I'm  hoping to fire it up one of these days.
Steve
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Wolffarmer
The 1022 dual mantle?   Jim, looks like I have Colemans 21a on it now. I just looked, can't see a trade mark but on has tears in it after about one fount so must be a coleman. Right?

LOL

Randy

Randy,Coleman 275 Appreciation Syndicate member #157. Proud parent of three 275s and one 222
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JimDouglasJr
  Yup.
21s are OK on a dual mantle.  I'm sorry, Randy, I was going by the previous discussion (single), which was tacked onto another previous discussion.
Don't be shy, kids, start a new topic!

A cleaning of the F/A tube might make the lighting better. The outer tube walls could be corroded or the air inlet gummed up.
These do move a lot of fuel, though (dual fuel). Try 2C-HGs.
Kyle. Kaptain Kamplite - America's Finest Lantern Fettler.
Coleman 275 Appreciation Syndicate and 243 Blues Member #0031 &  J.C. Higgins aficionado.
“If you light a lamp for someone else, it will also brighten your path.” Buddhist quote.  Brand-X Super Hoarder.
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Jeepstircrazy
Looks like Ash Flash lanterns haven't had any air time in years...I picked one up today for 
$5 at an antique flea market in Potsdam , NY ....close enough to the Canadian border I guess , and it found it's way over the river. Got a nice looking 220F also for $20 . Spent more on a nickel fount ,two mantle with an unreadable date and lots of patent dates and countries I can not Quite make out on bottom., Have no idea what model it is......got more projects for this coming winter!
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1hpycmpr

Sounds like you scored some nice stuff.  Start a new topic and post some pictures of your finds.  Maybe the nickel is a B or C. 

Hmmm, wonder how old Kyle is doing?

Mark
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Gasman64
What Mark said.
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